EBay losing money due to its new policies?
basd...@hotmail.com
but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
in the near future.
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20090121&id=9533284
Hopefully this will show up as an easy to click on link.
Sean Casey
the change in policies.
Sean
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Kenbo
wrote:
>FWIW, I think this is more an result of the current economic downturn than
>the change in policies.
The number of listings seem to have dropped off, at least in the
collectible areas.
One could argue that in hard economic times people would be listing
*more* items to raise cash.
Del
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:02:26 -0800, "Sean Casey" <napa...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >FWIW, I think this is more an result of the current economic downturn than
> >the change in policies.
>
> The number of listings seem to have dropped off, at least in the
> collectible areas.
>
> One could argue that in hard economic times people would be listing
> *more* items to raise cash.
I think E-Bay has a CEO that needs a Boot right out the Door, It will
never be the same again ( for me anyway )
Pin-Del,
cargpb28
gangstarr
try to sell, items for sale have been down.
the reason why items for sale are down is because:
1) now only paypal only
2) sellers cant leave neg feedback
3) ebay protects buyers, not sellers.
4) pulling auctions often in which cases they should not due to
"wording".
5) the star rating system can temporarliy disable sellers accounts
6) a host of other changes , example : sell fees increase, featured
auctions price increased. featured auctions not on page one now, etc.
Wolfpack
> > The number of listings seem to have dropped off, at least in the
> > collectible areas.
>
> > One could argue that in hard economic times people would be listing
> > *more* items to raise cash.
>
Exactly....in this tough economic climate, Ebay should really excel.
People typically look for other quick cash alternatives when times get
tough and Ebay has always benefited from that philosophy. We should
be seeing a huge increase in ebay auctions for used items, as well as
increased sales in the same area.
The new policies are absolute crap and I for one have stopped selling
items because of the temporary payment hold policies. I've been an
Ebayer for several years and I have well over 100 transactions and
100% feedback. However, I still don't qualify for instant payment on
my transactions.
I've moved to Craigslist for most things and I've done really well. I
think a lot of people have done the same. Ebay apparently owns a
stake in Craigslist now, so it's only a matter of time before they try
and screw that up too.
Mark Clayton
hostile to sellers in the past year.
And you can list any BIN item at any price you like for
a listing fee of 35 cents. For them to lose listings
with that deal means to me that lots of sellers have
just gone away.
And if RGP is any barometer, the CL FS posts have
grown tremendously in the past year.
-Mark
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Abby Normal
wrote:
> Looks like EBay might be suffering from its rediculous new policies,
> but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
> competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
> in the near future.
>
>
> Hopefully this will show up as an easy to click on link.
Well, I know I'm trying to avoid using ebay.
apimo...@yahoo.com
some time now, and I won't be going back probably anytime soon..
basd...@hotmail.com
> YES, ebay sucks for sellers now. I haven't sold ANYTHING there for
> some time now, and I won't be going back probably anytime soon..
Yea, I used to sell a lot of stuff there too. But when you have to
wait so long for money to show up in your account due to inconsiderate
buyers you start losing sleep wondering if your are getting ripped off
by a buyer or not. The fees are no longer cheap, and having to go
through Paypal for everything adds up too. Their business model is
definately flawed and will never be up to the standards of
Amazon.com. I'd love to be part a nationwide party when they finally
go under. How could such a successful business destroy itself? Greed
I guess...
Retrogameconnection
wrote:> > YES,ebaysucks for sellers now. I haven't sold ANYTHING there for
Yea. Agreed. Meg Whitman is really fu*king up that company. Even
though they don't admit it, definitely the idiotic policies and
increased fees have driven people away in droves. This combined with
the poor economy and Ebays sales have dropped dramatically when they
should be exploding right now.
Really a missed opportunity for EBAY cause by poor management
decisions.
On the flip side, it will be really interesting to see what happens to
WMS's stock on January 29th when they announce their numbers for the
quarter...
Captain Neo
> FWIW, I think this is more an result of the current economic downturn than
> the change in policies.
>
> Sean
This is definately not the case. Ebay is a big scam. I've delt with
them for the past 10 years, and they are greedy bastards now. The
policies they have now are ridiculous. After doing business with that
place for as long as I have, I refuse to sell shit on there anymore.
Many have followed suit as you can't find hardly anything on there
anymore. 3 years from now, Ebay will be no more, because of their
own greed. I'll be happy to see it go. If only Time Warner could
have some stiff competition, then the world would be a little better
allaround.
mr tobias
Ebay just isn't fun anymore, and it definitely isn't cheap. They
should have focussed on improving what they were good at instead of
ruining it and trying to outdo Amazon.
arcad...@hotmail.com
Sean Kavanagh
wrote:
> Looks like EBay might be suffering from its rediculous new policies,
> but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
> competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
> in the near future.
>
>
> Hopefully this will show up as an easy to click on link.
I think it's both their poor decisions and the economy...but of course
they'll blame it all on the latter. Personally I stopped even looking
on eBay quite a while ago, and I would never sell anything there...too
many horror stories.
Good riddance if they fail...they had the world by the balls and
fucked it up. These monopolies will never learn. I agree with
Neo...praying for the same thing to happen to TWC, but that's a
different animal...their hooks are into us even deeper.
Sean
doc ellis
wrote:
> Looks like EBay might be suffering from its rediculous new policies,
> but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
> competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
> in the near future.
>
>
> Hopefully this will show up as an easy to click on link.
Same old story,"if it isn't broke don't fix it"
doc ellis
Todd Tuckey
the most stupid reasons...in some cases, on items I have listed the same way
for months. The worst part are the deadbeats that never respond or send
money for something...yes, I finally get my final fees back, but not the
initial fees of listing the items not paid for. And to top it off, I cannot
leave bad feedback for these losers--to warn others that they do not pay. I
can only block them from trying to buy again. I had one guy, a real
dreamer, that would simply get a new account and bid and win again, only
not to send the money--twice! The best part, is that they "call" you to
tell you they are pulling the auction, but "could not reach you"...at 7pm
Sunday night! Todd from TNT Amusements
bombe...@bellsouth.net
> I agree with this. eBay has become much more
> hostile to sellers in the past year.
>
> And you can list any BIN item at any price you like for
> a listing fee of 35 cents. For them to lose listings
> with that deal means to me that lots of sellers have
> just gone away.
>
> And if RGP is any barometer, the CL FS posts have
> grown tremendously in the past year.
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> gangstarr wrote:
> > i dont believe it is mostly due to the economy. in hard times people
> > try to sell, items for sale have been down.
> > the reason why items for sale are down is because:
>
> > 1) now only paypal only
> > 2) sellers cant leave neg feedback
> > 3) ebay protects buyers, not sellers.
> > 4) pulling auctions often in which cases they should not due to
> > "wording".
> > 5) the star rating system can temporarliy disable sellers accounts
> > 6) a host of other changes , example : sell fees increase, featured
>
> - Show quoted text -
CL is definately hurting eBay. I recently sold an antique Jukebox on
CL for $3300,buyer paid cash, total fee's to me = 0. If I had put it
on Ebay and sold it for the same I would have paid almost $300 in
fee's and would have waited for my money to clear because of the new
Paypal/ebay rules. I have'nt listed anything on Ebay for almost a
year now (since they implemented the new rules) and don't plan to list
anything unless they restore the system back to or close to what it
used to be.
Combine all the sellers that have left and now the down economy and
Ebay is taking the hit on both fronts.
Steve
of their policies, outright fraud (by sellers and buyers)
and shipping costs. Their business should be booming
in this down economy, but it isn't, so I suspect
others are using Craigslist like I am as an alternative.
Steve
Juan_Fingers
should be thriving in a poor economy when people are selling
everything they don't need. I really think ebay's policies have
really hurt them and us.
Lewis
On Jan 21, 6:58 pm, "b__da...@hotmail.com" <basda...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Looks like EBay might be suffering from its rediculous new policies,
> but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
> competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
> in the near future.
>
> http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=O...
spam...@verizon.net
> Yea. Agreed. Meg Whitman is really fu*king up that company.
She's been gone for 10 months.
pinba...@gmail.com
Thats crazy Todd. They called me too at home to let me know they
cancelled my auction! This was around the same time . I first thought
it was a joke. I did let them know what i think of Ebay in a
"friendly" manner!
Juan_Fingers
to run that campaign into the ground. Meg and Carly formally of HP.
Lewis
JCZ
With a record like that I expect her to be at the Treasury next or at
least a CEO in banking or wall st.
Karl M
wrote:
> Looks like EBay might be suffering from its rediculous new policies,
> but of course they won't admit it and blame it on the economy,
> competition etc. Lets hope someone gives them some real competition
> in the near future.
>
>
> Hopefully this will show up as an easy to click on link.
Ebay is a textbook example of how to screw up a great idea... People
used to love Ebay when they started out, it used to be fun. Now it's
like watching a train wreck. Sellers are leaving in droves and they
respond by implementing more stupid policies against sellers.
One day they're going to realize that you need sellers to have
buyers. You'd think it would have occurred to them by now.
I've stopped buying and selling on Ebay too... The DSR policy pushed
me over the edge. Craigslist doesn't have the coverage, but it
doesn't piss me off with stupid policies either. I would buy from
Amazon just to spite Ebay now.
-Karl M
Les Manley
I agree. In tough times, much like pawn shops which are doing bonzer
business right now, eBay should be flourishing. People hurting for
cash should be trying to sell many more things to raise money then
they normally would and also should be looking for deals on items they
need online, instead of overpaying for them in a local store. Since
eBay makes listing fee cash even if an item doesn't sell, which is
over 66% of the time, even if no one is buying which should not be the
case, they should still be doing well. I hope their BS changes are
really starting to hit them where it hurts. I can't belive people are
being paid 6 digit salaries to come up with some of the garbage
policies they have come up with recently. Blindfolded monkeys
throwing darts at suggestions stapled to a wall could come up with
better. The most craptastic of all being the 5 star rating system
with failing under 4.1 disabling your account and 4 out of 5 stars in
the shipping category being labled as "shipped quickly"...makes
perfect sense. Account shutdown for all those "quick shippers" out
there...
kirb
The last run of auctions I did had fees near 15% after paypal was
involved. I will be using CL for as much as possible in the future.
Google needs to come up with a better auction site. They are the only
ones I can see taking this on and being good at it.
Kirb
Todd Tuckey
their stupid people, I rate everything "The Worst".
The ONE time I spoke with someone, she was as pleasant as could be to tell
me that my auction was going to be ended--not even allowing me to go online
to correct it! WHY bother calling me? She told me they wanted to make SURE
I knew I was in violation!
Now, you are in violation is you even MENTION Checks or Money Orders---even
in the text of the post!
One of my violations was in the title for a Bad Girls Pinball Machine---I
added "similar to 8 Ball Deluxe". The EBay people flipped out! "You are
NOT allowed to compare---as it would come up in a search for 8 Ball Deluxe
and that's not what I am selling!
I have put up with alot of crap from EBay---they take there money and give
the sellers less and less! Two days ago, they changed the "look" of the
sellers pages...which stink...its hard to read, etc, and there is no button
to change back to the old style! They didn;t even ask! Just switched it
out!
Butterflygirl24
They changed the look from the buyers page as well!! and you can't get
to your favorites page anymore...they cleared it all out...you have to
search, and put them all back in again!!
E-bay really screwed up a good thing! I have never sold on E-bay, and
now I never will...but I have bought a lot in the past...but that has
pretty much come to an end also with the PayPal only thing...I do not
have PP nor will I sign up just to make them more money, so unless I
know the person and can get in touch with them before the auction I
will not bid or buy anything from E-bay...It sucks, I used to spend an
hour or so a day scouring E-bay looking for parts etc. but
alas...their loss I guess! from now on I will be calling people to
find parts I am looking for...or putting posts on RGP!! :-)
Phoebe