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BAD BUYER WARNING part 2: Steve Simny of Wayne, NJ

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ldnayman

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:42:30 PM7/7/10
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I sold Steve a game last week, clearly adverstised as is, cash and
carry.

He came, inspected the game, paid cash, took the game, and left.

He's now having problems with the game, and he's making various
threats. I should have heeded the previous warnings about this guy.

That's all I'm going to say this guy. My rep as buyer and seller
speaks for itself, and so does his.

machine.slave

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:47:04 PM7/7/10
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What did you expect from a guy from WAYNE ;)

Sorry about your bad experience :(

TheKorn

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:50:14 PM7/7/10
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ldnayman <ldna...@aol.com> wrote in news:277931db-60b0-481e-8f9e-
2692ee...@j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

So what did he threaten you with? A tepid salami? A BJ in a Volksvagen?
Forcing you to listen to Gary Stern proclaim his love for home collectors?
:)

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ldnayman

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:54:34 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 3:50 pm, TheKorn <TheK...@TheKorn.Net> wrote:

>
> So what did he threaten you with?  A tepid salami?  A BJ in a Volksvagen?  
> Forcing you to listen to Gary Stern proclaim his love for home collectors?    

"I have been trashed on rgp for just not showing up. If you don't tell
me the solution or give me money to have it fixed it will be my turn
on rgp. I'm sorry but I paid you full price for a machine that is
filled with beer and I had to put it back together. I hope you will do
the right thing."

Tim N.

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:58:28 PM7/7/10
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Note to self, start buying games from Levi, he fills them with
beer.....

CEG

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:00:13 PM7/7/10
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Tell him "as is" means just that.. He inspected the game himself.

Define "filled with beer"? It wasn't noticed before the sale?

Andy B

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:00:30 PM7/7/10
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Local micro-brews or nasty skunk beer ? This may be the problem !

Andy B.

Lloyd Olson

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:12:59 PM7/7/10
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Not to worry. You can't trash a good man. LTG :)

"ldnayman" <ldna...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Jeff Rivera (jar155)

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:14:02 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 2:00 pm, Andy B <andybres...@cox.net> wrote:
> Local micro-brews or nasty skunk beer ? This may be the problem !
>
> Andy B.

If the buyer is able to inspect the machine, I'm a believer in the
"tail lights warranty". As soon as his tail lights are out of sight,
the warranty expires. I expect that when I buy, and I expect that when
I sell.

homebrood

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:14:36 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 3:00 pm, Andy B <andybres...@cox.net> wrote:
> Local micro-brews or nasty skunk beer ? This may be the problem !
>
> Andy B.

No it was used beer :)

TheKorn

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:19:18 PM7/7/10
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ldnayman <ldna...@aol.com> wrote in
news:c1d4fab6-6712-43d6...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> "I have been trashed on rgp for just not showing up. If you don't tell
> me the solution or give me money to have it fixed it will be my turn
> on rgp. I'm sorry but I paid you full price for a machine that is
> filled with beer and I had to put it back together. I hope you will do
> the right thing."

Most guys, if they bought a game that was filled with beer, would be
*happy* about it. :)

Josh A.

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:19:38 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 2:00 pm, Andy B <andybres...@cox.net> wrote:
> Local micro-brews or nasty skunk beer ?


I suspect it was old "Village Idiot" beer if this was Levi's creech.
At least he didn't nickel and dime you.

ldnayman

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:24:47 PM7/7/10
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Stop gloating Josh.

yes of course it was the Village idiot game. What game hasn't been in
a bar?

The lucky buyer was of course informed of this fact, and he inspected
the game INSIDE AND OUT and had no problem with it.

But yes you are right...I would have been better off taking the $100
less I was offered by a couple other people than selling it to this
guy.

homebrood

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:48:23 PM7/7/10
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So why don't you just offer to give him a hundred back, then maybe
he'll go away...

Tom

Jeff Rivera (jar155)

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:55:50 PM7/7/10
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There's no reason to. He was able to inspect the machine personally.
Offering him $100 back only trains him to be a bigger a-hole on the
next transaction. If he gets a discount, he'll be bragging to his
buddies how he got $100 knocked off without much effort.

Just let him piss and stomp and he'll eventually go away.

Josh A.

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Jul 7, 2010, 5:13:47 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 2:55 pm, "Jeff Rivera (jar155)" <jar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Offering him $100 back only trains him to be a bigger a-hole on the
> next transaction. If he gets a discount, he'll be bragging to his
> buddies how he got $100 knocked off without much effort.


Exactly. A few months ago, Frank Traut wrote about his bad deal with
a guy like that whose eBay feedback history showed that he made a
habit of extorting price concessions from sellers after the sale was
completed. Levi's guy sounds like the same type.

Del

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Jul 7, 2010, 5:38:38 PM7/7/10
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On Jul 7, 4:19 pm, TheKorn <TheK...@TheKorn.Net> wrote:

Should have put a couple of Lobster Claws in there to go with the
Beer, After a few days in this heat, He wouldn't even be close to that
game ;p

Pin-Del,
cargpb28

John Wart, jr

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Jul 7, 2010, 5:42:30 PM7/7/10
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The best way to get someone like that to shut up - offer them a full
refund when they return the game

'But I want to keep the game'

Well then, they are happy at the price paid.

We've all dealt with the buyers whose mode of operation is to pay asking
price, then nitpick something and ask for money off. There are lots of
people who do this on every deal.

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--john
CARGPB34
http://www.myhomegameroom.com

seymour.shabow

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Jul 7, 2010, 6:44:33 PM7/7/10
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If he inspected it in person inside and out and still handed you the
$$$, he's outta luck.

-scott CARGPB#29

dal.co...@yahoo.com

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Jul 7, 2010, 9:06:59 PM7/7/10
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Yep, you caught him on a good day the 1st go around. I had a feeling
you would be hearing from him with a problem.

Norman.

Max Badazz

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Jul 9, 2010, 7:34:56 PM7/9/10
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> I sold Steve a game last week, clearly adverstised as is, cash and
> carry.

Get the game back and I'll take it off your hands :)
I will never ever complain about it too

Chris (in NH)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/maxbadazz
WTB: Jackbot and another DMD game

Rubicon

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Jul 9, 2010, 8:47:31 PM7/9/10
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Gotta side with the seller on this one. Anyone who looks at a game
first hand and buys a game as-is should know better. Especially if
its someone on RGP! I'd assume that the average RGP poster has some
experience since their into the hobby & therefore knowledgable enough
to asses the condition of a game. Unless a seller intentionally
concealed a problem, the buyer has no leg to stand on once a deal is
done.

Once the money is exchanged and the pin is loaded into the buyer's
vehicle, the deal is done! I just don't patience for buyers that
somehow think the average private party seller should have a Walmart-
like return policy.

Ron Lyons

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Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:50 AM7/10/10
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Personally I don't think Wal-Mart should have their Wal-Mart like
return policy, stupid things like that are the reason people get the
idea that they can just return things and get their money back out of
it. If somebody buys something I don't think they should be able to
return it if nothing's wrong with it. I don't see how a small
business at least could survive with policies like that.

As for this pin, if the buyer inspected it that's the end of the
story. It sounds like he's bitching about something minor, too.

MrBally

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Jul 10, 2010, 10:33:59 AM7/10/10
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Target used to have a pretty liberal return policy when they expanded
out of Minneapolis fifteen or twenty years ago. That whole thing was
scrapped as the con-artists used it as a source of income.

CEG

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Jul 10, 2010, 11:00:27 AM7/10/10
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Isn't used beer urine??

CEG

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Jul 10, 2010, 11:14:08 AM7/10/10
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> cargpb28- Hide quoted text -
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I purchased a game a few months back that was outside when I looked at
it. Everything looked good and I paid the guy (I'm not giving any
names I'm still happy about the transaction), and loaded it up in my
van.. I didn't unload it right away. I just let it sit in the van
until I was ready to move it inside. Well, after a couple of days I
went to go use my van and when I got inside all I could smell was a
foul musty odor.

Now who's fault would that be? Me for not sticking my nose inside the
machine, or the seller for letting it air out outside? Either way
it's still buyer beware.

On a good note the machine is now in my house and I can't smell it
anymore. Maybe the heat from being in my van made the smell come out.
Who knows.

Ron Lyons

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Jul 10, 2010, 1:50:31 PM7/10/10
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> Who knows.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Nah, it's probably that dead mouse on the top of your speaker cone,
hidden under the metal frame finally deteriorated enough that it
doesn't smell anymore :)

(you know you're going to go look)

Pinster68

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Jul 12, 2010, 4:59:40 AM7/12/10
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On Jul 7, 3:42 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:
> I sold Steve a game last week, clearly adverstised as is, cash and
> carry.
>
> He came, inspected the game, paid cash, took the game, and left.
>
> He's now having problems with the game, and he's making various
> threats. I should have heeded the previous warnings about this guy.
>
> That's all I'm going to say this guy. My rep as buyer and seller
> speaks for itself, and so does his.

Sorry to hear Levi. This is definitely not an 'I told you so' moment.
Steve has zero credibility to make an RGP threat, much less a set of
balls to actually try it.

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