Death to the Balrog (and some questions)
Mark Highfield
Dwarven priest killed the Balrog. I had all the gear listed below plus a wand
of Acid Balls and a Wand of Frost Bolts.
Its amazing what a little speed can do.
By the way, I also had a Staff of Destruction which was destroyed in the
battle. Would that staff have hurt the Balrog or just made him run away?
Also, the Balrog dropped a Wand of Drain Life when he died. Does this drain my
life or the enemy's life?
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Mark Highfield
Name :Groggle Age : 37 Strength : 18/89
Race :Dwarf Height : 51 Intelligence : 16
Sex :Male Weight : 139 Wisdom :18/100
Class :Priest Social Class: 8 Dexterity : 16
Title :Low Lama Constitution : 18/95
Charisma : 18/88
+ To Hit : 9 Level : 31 Max Hit Points : 347
+ To Damage : 12 Experience :151559 Cur Hit Points : 340
+ To AC : 25 Gold :137099 Max Mana : 124
Total AC : 66 Cur Mana : 124
(Miscellaneous Abilities)
Fighting : Superb Stealth : Fair Perception : Poor
Throw/Bows : Superb Disarming : Excellent Searching : Fair
Saving Throw: Superb Magic Device: Superb Infra-Vision: 50 feet
Character Background
You are the only child of a Dwarven Miner. You are the black sheep
of the family. You have dark brown eyes, straight black hair, a
four-foot beard, and a dark complexion.
[Character's Equipment List]
a) You are wielding : a Lance (+9,+8) [+1] (HA) (+4 to STR).
b) Worn on head : a Steel Helm [6,+4].
c) Worn around neck : an Obsidian Amulet of Wisdom (+1).
d) Worn on body : Full Plate Armor [25,+8] (R).
e) Worn on shield arm : a Medium Metal Shield [4,+4].
f) Worn on hands : a Set of Gauntlets [2,+1] of Free Action.
g) Right ring finger : a Sapphire Ring of Speed (+1).
h) Left ring finger : a Sapphire Ring of Speed (+1).
i) Worn on feet : a Pair of Hard Leather Boots [3,+5].
j) Worn about body : a Cloak [1,+1] of Stealth (+3).
k) Light source is : a Brass Lantern with 12820 turns of light.
l) Secondary weapon : a Backsword (+11,+7) (SD).
[General Inventory List]
a) a Holy Book of Prayers [Beginners Handbook].
b) 4 Holy Book of Prayers [Words of Wisdom].
c) 3 Holy Book of Prayers [Chants and Blessings].
d) 3 Holy Book of Prayers [Exorcism and Dispelling].
e) a Book of Magic Spells [Beginners-Magik].
f) a Blue Mushroom of Light Cures.
g) 7 Potions of Restore Life Levels.
h) a Misty Potion of Cure Light Wounds.
i) 3 Scrolls of Word-of-Recall.
j) 2 Scrolls Titled "snakli ox nin" of Genocide.
k) an Aluminum Wand of Fire Balls (+0 charges).
l) an Aluminum Wand of Fire Balls (+0 charges).
m) a Tin-Plated Wand of Fire Bolts (+0 charges).
n) a Wand of Lightning Balls (+0 charges).
o) a Molybdenum Wand of Frost Bolts (+0 charges).
p) a Molybdenum Wand of Frost Bolts.
q) a Silver Wand of Drain Life (+0 charges). {Dropped by Balrog}
r) a Mahogany Staff of Dispel Evil.
s) an Applewood Staff of Mass Polymorph. {Dropped by Balrog}
t) a Neptunite Ring of Lordly Protection (FIRE) [+5].
u) a Set of Leather Gloves.
v) a Broadsword.
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/ Groggle \,;_ _;,,,;_
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| Level : 71 | / \
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| 388263 Au | : :
| Died on Level : 0 | _;,,,,;_
| killed by |
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| Sun Feb 06 |
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Adam Grumet
>I found the (R) armor and one of the Rings of Speed above level 25. I think
>I found the first ring on level 24 and the armor somewhere near 15 (Lucky!).
>However, I spent forever tooling around higher levels looking for boost stat
>potions so I was bound to find something good.
When you say level 25, do you mean 1250 ft?
If yes, WOW!! I never find anything of interest, except a few gain stat potions
above 1800 ft !!
>
>Finally, I got bored and charged straight down to level 50 with the stuff
>I had collected. I found my second ring on level 51 after running down
>a level from the Balrog.
>
>After I killed the Balrog, the games made me jump from 31 to 71 and die of
>old age.
>
Was this instantaneous? or did the game give you a minute or so to enjoy your
new found stature?
>Oh, in case you're interested, I never beat an AMHD either (or one of those
>nasty Liches -Emperor Lich?). I just took my speed and went straight for
>the big guy.
>
Sounds like a good tactic!
Thanks
Adam Grumet
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Jonathan Ellis
>
>
>>I found the (R) armor and one of the Rings of Speed above level 25. I think
>>I found the first ring on level 24 and the armor somewhere near 15 (Lucky!).
>>However, I spent forever tooling around higher levels looking for boost stat
>>potions so I was bound to find something good.
>
>When you say level 25, do you mean 1250 ft?
Yes.
>
>>
>>Finally, I got bored and charged straight down to level 50 with the stuff
>>I had collected. I found my second ring on level 51 after running down
>>a level from the Balrog.
>>
>>After I killed the Balrog, the games made me jump from 31 to 71 and die of
>>old age.
>
>Was this instantaneous? or did the game give you a minute or so to enjoy your
>new found stature?
>
Yes.
;-)
It let's you play around as long as you like, but you can't save.
>>Oh, in case you're interested, I never beat an AMHD either (or one of those
>>nasty Liches -Emperor Lich?). I just took my speed and went straight for
>>the big guy.
>>
>
>Sounds like a good tactic!
>
Neither one's *that* big a dead once you have the speed to tackle
the Balrog; evil iggys aren't a problem at all though I'd still watch my
step around ELs.
Jonathan Ellis
moria addict, retired
Phil Barre
|> >>Oh, in case you're interested, I never beat an AMHD either (or one of those
|> >>nasty Liches -Emperor Lich?). I just took my speed and went straight for
|> >>the big guy.
|> >>
|> >
|> >Sounds like a good tactic!
|> >
|> Neither one's *that* big a dead once you have the speed to tackle
|> the Balrog; evil iggys aren't a problem at all though I'd still watch my
|> step around ELs.
|>
|> Jonathan Ellis
|> moria addict, retired
Wait a second here, you guys are discussing how you whacked the Balrog
in your sleep but are tiptoe-ing around the Emperor Lich? I've killed 3 EL's
now around level 1800 and apart from the long battle, never really suffered
much. Just use a fire ball or bolt spell and phase door around to prevent him
from touching you. When you run out of mana teleport away and rest. Go back,
and blast him some more. Eventually he dies. It was fairly easy to avoid having
him touch you and drain your stats.
So am I to beleive that the big B is easier than that?
Phil
Jonathan Ellis
>|> Neither one is
[evil iggy or EL]
>|> is *that* big a deal once you have the speed to tackle
>|> the Balrog; evil iggys aren't a problem at all though I'd still watch my
>|> step around ELs.
>|>
>
> Wait a second here, you guys are discussing how you whacked the Balrog
>in your sleep but are tiptoe-ing around the Emperor Lich? I've killed 3 EL's
>now around level 1800 and apart from the long battle, never really suffered
>much. Just use a fire ball or bolt spell and phase door around to prevent him
>from touching you. When you run out of mana teleport away and rest. Go back,
>and blast him some more. Eventually he dies. It was fairly easy to avoid
>having him touch you and drain your stats.
> So am I to beleive that the big B is easier than that?
>
You have to understand that strategies for the two are completely
different. For ELs and evil iggies, you want to conserve as many of your
big guns (invulnerability, drain life, etc) for the Balrog. For the Balrog,
all the stops are out; you use everything you can since if you have something
left over what good is it going to do you? Under these constraints, ELs can
be pretty nasty customers, especially when you're playing non-mages.
Jonathan Ellis
Christian Naundorf
>> So am I to beleive that the big B is easier than [EL, evil iggy]?
>>
> You have to understand that strategies for the two are completely
>different. For ELs and evil iggies, you want to conserve as many of your
>big guns (invulnerability, drain life, etc) for the Balrog. For the Balrog,
>all the stops are out; you use everything you can since if you have something
>left over what good is it going to do you? Under these constraints, ELs can
>be pretty nasty customers, especially when you're playing non-mages.
Well, what's the idea for a warrior, then? Is there a way you get
fast enough to fire wands or deal strikes with some +oo, +oo weapon
sufficient to kill the big B eventually??
And even with these constraints (meaning using all I have) my
dwarven warrior finds Emperor Lichs pretty nasty, even with Free
Action.
Patrick Riggs
: Well, what's the idea for a warrior, then? Is there a way you get
: fast enough to fire wands or deal strikes with some +oo, +oo weapon
: sufficient to kill the big B eventually??
: And even with these constraints (meaning using all I have) my
: dwarven warrior finds Emperor Lichs pretty nasty, even with Free
: Action.
Even though I played a mage, all of the damage I did to the Balrog was with
a (+11,+11) (+3 str.) katana (HA), admittedly I was using a ring of slaying,
a ring of speed (+1), and boots of speed, as well as Haste Self, and about
eight potions of invulnerability. The Evil Iggy was easy without any save
the sword, boots of speed, and Haste Self, as was the Emperor Lich. AMHD's
are too risky, either they are as easy as the Evil Iggy or Emperor Lich, or
you're doing well one minute, and your dead the next from that viscious gas
breath. My character, being a hafling mage, was subject to other breath
weapons, even with Ribbed Plate Armor (ra), small metal sheild (r), ring of
Lordly protection (fire, cold, and acid) (interchanged as needed). I know
resistance isn't cumulative, but it helps not to lose AC in acid attacks.
I seem to have left a sentence unfinished, the reason the mage was still
vulnerable through all this protection: Max hit points=166. I've had other
characters reach that by level 10. The sword, after all pluses, left me with
+24 to hit, +22 to damage. I didn't miss often.
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drip, drip, drip . . .
The most submissive thing in the world can rid roughshod over the hardest in
the world -- that which is without substance entering that which has no
crevices.
That is why I know the benefit of resorting to no action. --TAO TE CHING
See, my way of life is supported by ancient Chinese philosophy.
Troy Podbury
p67...@sun23.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de writes:
>Well, what's the idea for a warrior, then? Is there a way you get
>fast enough to fire wands or deal strikes with some +oo, +oo weapon
>sufficient to kill the big B eventually??
>And even with these constraints (meaning using all I have) my
>dwarven warrior finds Emperor Lichs pretty nasty, even with Free
>Action.
Balrog Hunting Warrior Kit
2 by Ring of Speed +1
1 by Boots of Speed +1
1 by Zweihander HA +lots +lots
Some nice (R) armour
Some Staffs of Teleportation
Lots of potions of invulnarability
a few Scrolls of Protection
Potions of Haste Self
Few Scrolls of Phase door
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Given that, it is normally easier to have a few wands of stone to mud.
As the Balrog moves through walls, you move diagonally (so he can't see
you and therefore can't breath on you), he moves next to you, you hit him
(as you are faster), you move again.
You might have trouble with the moving around the corners, that is what
the phase doors are for. If you do phase door, either keep track of your
moves relative to the Balrog, or let him come to you. When you've bashed
him around a bit, quaff all potions of invulnerability and stand there
and bash him. If you try standing there, you may loose items when he
breaths fire, so use them first.
Troy Podbury
tpod...@abare.gov.au