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al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.

So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but I
wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
*hate* stripping paint..

(For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)

thanks!


RT Maitreya

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I don't see a problem until the low 60s.
I have sprayed in the upper sixties with
Krylon sandable grey with no problems,
and even as low as upper 50s. I have not
been successful with a Citadel primer
at these low temperatures. If you are
priming metals, pass a heat gun over them
before priming. You could probably do
this for plastics too, actually, but I've
never tried it. A hair dryer is plenty
as long as you have it in your lap (down,
Al) and use it immediately before the
spray, so don't worry about a big heat
gun investment if this is all you'd do
with the thing.

RTM

Chaplain-X

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<al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
> So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but I
> wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
> *hate* stripping paint..
>
> (For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)
>
I live in Utah and it has been my experience that it will not hurt to use
your sprays in cold weather as long as you bring the models back inside to
dry after about five or ten minutes depending on how cold it is.

Richard Lobinske

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>If you are
>priming metals, pass a heat gun over them
>before priming. You could probably do
>this for plastics too, actually, but I've
>never tried it. A hair dryer is plenty
>as long as you have it in your lap (down,
>Al) and use it immediately before the
>spray, so don't worry about a big heat
>gun investment if this is all you'd do
>with the thing.
>

You can also warm the spray can in a bowl of warm water for 10-15 minutes
before use to get past the cold weather problem (or so I have heard, living in
central Florida, I don't have to deal with cold weather that often).

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Michael Douglas Hamon

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I use cidetal sprays all year round and we are lucy in the south-west to get
above 18C even in summer so using them in 10C isn't any problem

SneakyGit

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i am living in iowa. Last night it was about 27 degrees and i primed roughly
forty minis seemed to work fine. though i did put them in a non heated garage
to dry.

Killraven

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I've sprayed dozens of mini's when the temp is below freezing, with
Armory or Krylon Primers. The important thing is to have your primer
stored indoors and don't take the mini's or primer into the cold for
long before spraying them.

-Paul

al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu wrote:
>
> Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
> So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but I
> wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
> *hate* stripping paint..
>
> (For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)
>

> thanks!

Old Bear

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<al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
> So, how cold is too cold?
The answer is, of course...Too Cold Scorpio...

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Insane Ranter

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al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu wrote:
>
> Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
> So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but I
> wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
> *hate* stripping paint..
>
> (For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)
>
> thanks!

60! You have to be kidding if you think that's cold. How about asking if
it gets below 50 or in the 40's atleast before you talk about getting
cold.

Mack Brewer

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al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu wrote in message ...

>Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see
70
>degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70
degree
>minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't
take
>that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
>So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point,
but I
>wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot..
I
>*hate* stripping paint..
>
>(For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)
>
>thanks!

s-h-e-e-r l-u-x-u-r-y !!!!!!!

I haven't seen 70 degrees since early September.

I prime my minis by stepping out onto the front doorstep
and spraying, then ducking back in before I freeze.

I figure as long as it doesn't spray tiny ice cubes
it's fine.

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Mark P

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I sprayed about 40 Orks this weekend when it was about 30 degrees outside
(here in San Angelo, TX). I kept everything in the house and just stepped
outside long enough to spray them and then brought them indoors to dry. It
seems that as long as the figure and the can are warm, you can get away with
short exposure to the cold.

~Mark~


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aleph

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Insane Ranter:

>60! You have to be kidding if you think that's cold. How about
>asking if it gets below 50 or in the 40's atleast before you
>talk about getting cold.

Mack Brewer:


>s-h-e-e-r l-u-x-u-r-y !!!!!!!
>I haven't seen 70 degrees since early September.

I knew it was only a matter of time before responses degenerated into
temperature-envy. :P

Believe me, there are negative points to living in the Southern USA. Not
many, but some can be compelling if you're anywhere left of center socially
or politically.

Thanks to everyone cold who responded.

Mike

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I just primed some Khorne berserkers, Reiksgard knights, an dmounted squires
(there's diversity for you!) in sub-30 degree weather, and none of them
complained. Why? Cos they're dead 'ard, they is!

Mike.

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> al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu wrote:
> >
> > Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> > degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> > minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> > that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
> >
> > So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but
I
> > wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
> > *hate* stripping paint..
> >
> > (For Centigrade-users, I believe 60 degrees F is about 16 C.)
> >
> > thanks!
>

crusader1988

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Nov 21, 2000, 12:54:53 AM11/21/00
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I find that colder is better.
Why? Less humidity in the air. Less chance of that annoying "bubbling"
phenomenon.
Just to be safe I wouldn't spray at less than freezing, but I've always had
the best luck in the cold (35-55 degrees).

Quick note.... Make sure the can is at room temperature. Don't store them in
the shed!

Good luck.

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RT Maitreya

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aleph wrote:

> Believe me, there are negative points to living in the Southern USA. Not
> many, but some can be compelling if you're anywhere left of center socially
> or politically.

That's why you move to California, like
the rest of them. No lefties in TX, boy.

RTM

Justin Taylor

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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I would have can and figures slightly warm - I keep mine in the boiler room
of central heating system for a few hours before use. And then in coldish
room with no draughts for spaying.

Hope that helps


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NEil Phillips

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"crusader1988" <crusad...@email.msn.com> saw fit to share the following
wisdom:

>I find that colder is better.
>Why? Less humidity in the air. Less chance of that annoying "bubbling"
>phenomenon.
>Just to be safe I wouldn't spray at less than freezing, but I've always had
>the best luck in the cold (35-55 degrees).
>
>Quick note.... Make sure the can is at room temperature. Don't store them in
>the shed!

I'd agree with that. I mean, around here we really don't get cold weather
(but it does get *damn hot* sometimes), the only time I've had problems
priming was in humid weather once.. (I was priming about 40 assorted orks
and goblins plus other stuff, too, none of whichever dried.. the primer
jsut went powdery, still isn't dry 6 months later, I've gotta figure out
what to do some time :) )
--
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The opinions expressed in this message are not my own,
but rather are those of Microsoft Corporation.

John L. Martin

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<al...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> Winter (such as it is) is nearly upon us in Texas, and we may not see 70
> degrees Farenheit for a while. Armory's directions specify a 70 degree
> minimum temperature, and while Citadel's primer does not, I don't take
> that to mean that it's all-weather stuff.
>
> So, how cold is too cold? 60-degree days are common at this point, but I
> wanted to find out how far I could push it before I give it a shot.. I
> *hate* stripping paint..
>
I have used Krylon Sandable primer in temperatures that were below freezing
(-20 F outside...definitely below 32 in an unheated, uninsulated garage).
Come to Wisconsin for a winter sometime!

When I start, both the can and miniatures are at room temperature and I step
outside only to spray. The whole process is probably over in 35 seconds. I
don't think the miniatures or can get to a low temperature that fast...my
only concern is that the paint droplets would freeze on their way to the
surface. This has never happened however. When the air temp is above
freezing...I have no concerns whatsoever.

I think if you start everything at room temperature and run outside only to
spray...then run everything back inside again, you can hardly go wrong.
YMMV, however.


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Myrmydon

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Not all of us Kalifornians are left some us voted for that nice Texas boy.
Also where i live in cal it has been averaging about 60

Rich Kattau

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Myrmydon wrote:

> Not all of us Kalifornians are left some us voted for that nice Texas boy.

Now if Lost Angeles and San Francisco would just slide into the ocean, I think
we as a country could get some of our common sense back.

Rich

St. Jason

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Nov 23, 2000, 12:18:15 AM11/23/00
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In article <3A1C54E5...@yta.attmil.ne.jp>, Rich Kattau
<helo...@yta.attmil.ne.jp> writes:

You aren't thinking of the bad things! We'd send the second most polluted city
to the ocean bottom, drop about 500 million cars off the planet, move a good
portion of the top 1% of income back to the other 99%... Hrm... Wait... No...
Hrm.. Y'now? I can't think of a single reason that this would be bad...

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