'Standard' Paint Jobs
Chez Kendall
(esp. WD). However, I only reawoke my WH hobby last year, and so whould like
to know when the 'standard' image for tyranids in WD was changed (they used
to be really colourful, termagents were red and bone, carnifexes had a
red/purple skin etc.) I guess GM changed the general look of the orks from
the very bright reds and yellows to the murky browns and blacks they use on
their units now.
Tin Tin
Chez Kendall wrote in message <7pkptr$q0i$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Maybe, but the orky red went well on their vehicles, and nothing is better
>than seeing a fully painted Evil Sunz army, bright red vehicles and stuff.
>And after all, they are orks, and this is GW, who still have Blood Angels
>fighting wars saying 'Look at me, I'm in bright Red, go on, have a shot!'
>
Yes, but it's easier to stand around in bright colours on a battlefield when
you are basically a human tank. Marines in general don't have to worry
about blending in all that much because they can shrug off a lot of incoming
fire.
Tin Tin
La Grief
Chez Kendall wrote in message <7pkhnk$ima$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
I guess GW, with the rest of UK and the world (possibly) things are dawning
that it might be better for the image to look more sane and sensible.
although they are green skinned orks, doesn't mean they need to be kitted
out in stuff that doesn't need to be (colour wise that is) in war you dont
use bright colours.
-Lee
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Chez Kendall
than seeing a fully painted Evil Sunz army, bright red vehicles and stuff.
And after all, they are orks, and this is GW, who still have Blood Angels
fighting wars saying 'Look at me, I'm in bright Red, go on, have a shot!'
La Grief wrote in message <7pkpja$q1a$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
La Grief
Chez Kendall wrote in message <7pkptr$q0i$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Maybe, but the orky red went well on their vehicles, and nothing is better
>than seeing a fully painted Evil Sunz army, bright red vehicles and stuff.
>And after all, they are orks, and this is GW, who still have Blood Angels
>fighting wars saying 'Look at me, I'm in bright Red, go on, have a shot!'
Last pic i saw and the vehicals had a massive red and orange design on the
front
Chez Kendall
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Chez Kendall
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Simon Reed
at999.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>I guess GW, with the rest of UK and the world (possibly) things are dawning
>that it might be better for the image to look more sane and sensible.
>although they are green skinned orks, doesn't mean they need to be kitted
>out in stuff that doesn't need to be (colour wise that is) in war you dont
>use bright colours.
Hmmm. I've just started getting into WH40K (got the starter box set of
space marines & Dark Eldar as a pressie) and in my infinite wisdom just
got on with putting the models together and painting them. As my past
experience of such activities was Airfix planes and tanks I just got on
with painting the space marines in a bog standard brown/green desert
camouflage manner.
Having done so, I then got and read the space marine codex, and then
felt a visit to GW was in order for clarification of what space marine
chapters were all about. Did I get some flak for my chosen colour
scheme or what! "Camouflage? You painted them camouflage? Oh my God!
Space marines? Oh no! You don't wanna do that! You've got it all
wrong. They're proud and want to stand out on the battlefield. Wanna
buy a can of black aerosol so you can re-paint them?"
Having given the matter some consideration I've decided the geezer in
the shop was right. I'm going to paint sodding great targets on them.
Chapter symbol for the banners? A bloody great downward pointing arrow.
Anyone know the latin for "Oi! We're over here!"? Or perhaps "Tired of
life"? "Firing Range"? "Balls of grit. Brains of shit"? "Pretty boy
firing range"?
No wonder they need chaplains!
(I've thought of a name for my new fictitious chapter though. The
Bellybutton Chapter. They're not big, but they're always at the front,
in the middle and there's always loads of great fluff.)
--
Simon Reed, si...@sandj.demon.co.uk
Not very famous Space Marine war chant:
"When fighting's ugly, and the going gets shitty
Call the space marines, make your battlefield pretty"
David Howard
La Grief wrote in message <7pkpja$q1a$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
<snip>
>in war you dont
>use bright colours.
This is a pretty broad generalization. Wardress serves several purposes,
including identification, morale, sense of unity and cohesion, reduction of
sense of identity, and finally, reduction of visibility. Dull, cammie type
colors makes sense if the tactics used call for it. Stealthy
approaches..projection of force at a distance..that kind of thing. For
soldiers fighting out in the open within easy sight, it doesn't make a
difference. It is not a coincidence that the historical development of dull
uniforms corresponds with a change in tactics toward fire at a distance and
squad operations. In the 18th and 19th century, colorful uniforms were
often used as a recruiting tool, "Join up with us, mate. The girls love
this rifle green. Don't get lost in the crowd in that red jacket.."
David
Jason VanNorman
bright colors: Space Marines use camo. In most circumstances, they'd be
silly not to. Hell, there's supposed to be a "Doctrine of Camouflage" or
something like that in the Codex Astartes. So when they're in the
desert, they paint up their armor and tanks in desert camo. When they're
in the jungle, they paint up everything in jungle camo. I'm sure even
the regular colors of the Blood Angels are camo on "The World of Bright
Red Rocks." But we players can't realistically paint models that are
appropriately camouflaged for every scenario. That desert camo will look
pretty silly on Hoth. Instead, we pick one color scheme and stick with
it. In most cases, we pick the "dress uniform" colorations, because they
look neat. OTOH, my guys are tiger striped, so they're already in camo
for some environments...
Jason VanNorman
a.k.a. Razor Jacksuit
Simon Reed wrote:
>
> In article <7pkpja$q1a$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, La Grief <blackrat@blackr
> at999.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >I guess GW, with the rest of UK and the world (possibly) things are dawning
> >that it might be better for the image to look more sane and sensible.
> >although they are green skinned orks, doesn't mean they need to be kitted
> >out in stuff that doesn't need to be (colour wise that is) in war you dont
> >use bright colours.
>
Doctor Faust
remember a while ago a couple of article by Jervis says that Ultramarines
don't have to be blue and to paint what you like. I've had emails from
people wanting to know how to get the "right" color on a model and it irks
me.You can paint anything any color you want. If I've done anything with my
painting advice and page is to let people know that you don't have to paint
just like GW does. Of course GW has to decide on a paint scheme for their
armies, and people see that and figure that's what they are suppose to
paint. Not so! Tell me where is says The Black Coach must be black!
Sometimes they will suggest a color scheme, but that's just a
suggestion. The reason Orks had a yellow and red paint scheme is because
green, yellow, and red compliment each other very well.
Now of course I'm not suggesting you start painting pink orks and
orange humans, but you could if you wanted to. Just don't be surprised if
you get laughed off the battlefield.
Dr. Faust's Painting Clinic
http://users.vei.net/DrFaust
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Alistair Hutton
<Si...@sandj.demon.co.uk> wrote
>In article <7pkpja$q1a$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, La Grief <blackrat@blackr
>at999.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>I guess GW, with the rest of UK and the world (possibly) things are dawning
>>that it might be better for the image to look more sane and sensible.
>>although they are green skinned orks, doesn't mean they need to be kitted
>>out in stuff that doesn't need to be (colour wise that is) in war you dont
>>use bright colours.
>
>Hmmm. I've just started getting into WH40K (got the starter box set of
>space marines & Dark Eldar as a pressie) and in my infinite wisdom just
>got on with putting the models together and painting them. As my past
>experience of such activities was Airfix planes and tanks I just got on
>with painting the space marines in a bog standard brown/green desert
>camouflage manner.
>
>Having done so, I then got and read the space marine codex, and then
>felt a visit to GW was in order for clarification of what space marine
>chapters were all about. Did I get some flak for my chosen colour
>scheme or what! "Camouflage? You painted them camouflage? Oh my God!
>Space marines? Oh no! You don't wanna do that! You've got it all
>wrong. They're proud and want to stand out on the battlefield. Wanna
>buy a can of black aerosol so you can re-paint them?"
>
RT companions which shows some Space Wolves about to ambush some ork
buggies and the SMs are all done up in camo colours. My current
40K/Epic force is painted in the old Imperial Strike Green with Bestial
Brown camo stripes
--
Alistair Hutton
Life is good and Life goes on if your camoflaged
Remove NAESPAM to e-mail me
Norbert M. Bilewicz
> RT companions which shows some Space Wolves about to ambush some ork
> buggies and the SMs are all done up in camo colours. My current
> 40K/Epic force is painted in the old Imperial Strike Green with Bestial
> Brown camo stripes
Yea, right. Camo is cool. Paint your Minis as YOU want and don't care
about GW !!!
</BILE>
Justin Gaskins
> -Lee
> http://www.blackrat999.freeserve.co.uk/lee/warhammer/warhammermain.htm
> (holder of the longest web address to a warhammer site, wish to challenge?)
> ICQ#:30319689
> Who watches the watcher of the watchmen. Better still, who watches them?
It may be the longest, but I just checked it and it doesn't work. I guess that
disqualifies you.
Justin Gaskins
> Now of course I'm not suggesting you start painting pink orks and
> orange humans, but you could if you wanted to. Just don't be surprised if
> you get laughed off the battlefield.
I think pink orks could be one of the most intimidating forces in the game. You
would worry the entire game that your opponent knows some obscure rule you don't
about using Slaaneshi Orks or something.
Jake Staines
> for some environments...
>
OTOH, my Crimson fists are camoufaged when shown against a horde of
blue-armoured marines with red fists. Some marine colour schemes were never
menat to be camouflaged...
Having said that, I showed a local GWite one of my Marine scouts where I
have painted anti-glare smear over their cheeks - I was told something along
the lines of 'Come on, why would a marine scout want black stuff on his
face? He's *HARD*!' I was later accused of having slipped when I painted his
eyes...
Just remember, if you look in the old Warhammer 40K Companion, there were a
couple of chapters shown there whose dress uniform was camo - there's no
reason not to think there aren't more.
--
Jake
'If you take all the rulebooks and sourcebooks from the average gamer's
bookshelf, and lay all the pages out end to end, then he will try and kill
you.'
(I asked the guys on the poster stand at Games Day if there was any chance
of a poster of the front cover of Rogue Trader. His response was something
along the lines of: 'Um.... no. We'd, er, have to *find* it first...'
Having said that, he then suggested that I scan it and have some repro house
blow it up to A2 for me ;-)
Don Saavedra
> blue-armoured marines with red fists. Some marine colour schemes were
never
> menat to be camouflaged...
>
> Having said that, I showed a local GWite one of my Marine scouts where I
> have painted anti-glare smear over their cheeks - I was told something
along
> the lines of 'Come on, why would a marine scout want black stuff on his
> face? He's *HARD*!' I was later accused of having slipped when I painted
his
> eyes...
Sounds like the guy who said that to you wouldn't know which end of the
pistol the bolt shell comes out of.
Don
P.S. At a sports radio station I worked at, we used to wear the black stuff
on days when new people started at the job... made 'em think we were all
crazy!
Don
Maxwel...@worldnet.att.net
<Ja...@whitehole.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> look neat. OTOH, my guys are tiger striped, so they're already in camo
>> for some environments...
>>
>
>OTOH, my Crimson fists are camoufaged when shown against a horde of
>blue-armoured marines with red fists. Some marine colour schemes were never
>menat to be camouflaged...
>
BUT - just because they were intended as dress uniforms doesn't make
you have to paint them that way.
My Mordians troops are painted Field Drab (a dull brown) with tannish
khaki gaiters, belts, and pouches. I used russet brown for the boots
and cap brims, and black for the emblems. They look like early WW I
British Army, except I use yellow epaulettes for Armored Fist, light
blue for infantry, and red for heavy weapons operators.
For Storm Troopers I used a dark forest green, and the same khaki and
brown for the details.
My commissars are wearing black coats and white pants; one is a
heavily modified Escher ganger (in Mordian uniform with cap!).
I conveted a couple of pre-Release 2 officers by cutting off their
heads and replacing heads and arms with Mordian Sergeant parts. One
got a lasgun and a HotShot pack; I still use him as my main Captain.
These guys all have white or light-colored uniforms and caps in the
colors listed in the troops section - ties them together but lets them
be easily tracked.
Tanks and weapons are dark green and olive drab - if GW insists on
archaic uniforms the least I can do is use archaic paint schemes.
8-)