Vehicle Card - Ablative Armour
Paul Chappell
Tom Beliech wrote:
>
> Robert Rivers wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for the Vehicle Wargear card - Ablative Armour
> > Just a quick description of the card (and where it was printed)
> > Thanks
>
> Don't have it with me, but here's the rundown:
>
> costs 10 points, nullifies the first hit that penetrates the vehicle's
> armor. May be used on ALL vehicles except bikes. Cannot be used to stop
> a hit that does not use an armor penetration roll (i.e. D-cannons, Grav
> Guns). It was printed, IIRC, in WD 173 or 176(It was the issue that has
> the Leman Russ Datafax in it).
Excellent rundown.... Except that it costs 15 points...
The reason for the tournie limits on vehicle cards..... What were they
thinking?
>
> Tom Beliech
Jim Hounslow
In article <19970510005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, kar...@aol.com
(Karalun) wrote:
> They almost might as well have made ablative a natural ability for
> vehicles. Almost every vehicle I see has ablative armor and then
> something else so that the same combination is not copied. They should
> make vehicle cards unique. I'm tired of ablative armor all the time.
It should have come standard on most vehicles or been more unique.
In the Grand Tournament, players lost points for not modelling AA on their
vehicles.
I've been trying to design AA for my IG vehicles that can be removed to
represent it blowing off.
Jim
Robert Rivers
Carter Jones
This Vehicle Card was printed in the 40,000 Battles Book. The book is
no longer available from GW in the US. It costs 15 points and basicly
you ignore the fist roll that penetrates armor.
Merlinx2 (Terry)
Robert Rivers wrote:
>
> I am looking for the Vehicle Wargear card - Ablative Armour
> Just a quick description of the card (and where it was printed)
> Thanks
Everyone else told you about but didn't mention that some places still
have the 40K battles books on the shelf..a friend just found one in
Orlando from Enterprise 1701 they might still have some and have a web
site..I got mine from a store in New Mexico and there are several
vehicle cards in there..ceramite armor, ablative, electrohull and
something else (don't have it right here) also 2 new missions cards and
most importantly the rules for battle bunkers and Razorbacks.....the
only place you can get any of this stuff
--
Terry
Space Wolf Pup
Tom Beliech
Robert Rivers wrote:
>
> I am looking for the Vehicle Wargear card - Ablative Armour
> Just a quick description of the card (and where it was printed)
> Thanks
Don't have it with me, but here's the rundown:
costs 10 points, nullifies the first hit that penetrates the vehicle's
armor. May be used on ALL vehicles except bikes. Cannot be used to stop
a hit that does not use an armor penetration roll (i.e. D-cannons, Grav
Guns). It was printed, IIRC, in WD 173 or 176(It was the issue that has
the Leman Russ Datafax in it).
Tom Beliech
Karalun
Meridian
Jim Hounslow wrote:
>
> In article <19970510005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, kar...@aol.com
> (Karalun) wrote:
>
>
> In the Grand Tournament, players lost points for not modelling AA on their
> vehicles.
>
> I've been trying to design AA for my IG vehicles that can be removed to
> represent it blowing off.
Personally, I'd just go for a removable skirt that you hang over the
tracks. Seems they usually get hit first anyways.
--
"Woo hoo?" -The Minbari that looks like Dana Carvey
"Nurgle stuff is easy cause it's supposed to look like crap." -Ross of
the Fnords
Tom Poston
Jim Hounslow wrote:
> I've been trying to design AA for my IG vehicles that can be removed
> to represent it blowing off.
It took me *forever* to figure out what Eldar ablative armour would even
*look like*! Big clunky armour plates just wouldn't be right. Finally I
settled on sequins or small bits of plasticard layered on to resemble
dragon scales. I haven't done the modelling yet, but I think it'll look
OK...
TomP
Jonas Whitespore
In article# , on Fri, 09 May 1997 23:35:54 -0500,
houn...@cc.umanitoba.ca (Jim Hounslow) wrote about Re: Vehicle Card -
Ablative Armour, in rec.games.miniatures.warhammer:
>In article <19970510005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, kar...@aol.com
>(Karalun) wrote:
>
>> They almost might as well have made ablative a natural ability for
>> vehicles. Almost every vehicle I see has ablative armor and then
>> something else so that the same combination is not copied. They should
>> make vehicle cards unique. I'm tired of ablative armor all the time.
>
>It should have come standard on most vehicles or been more unique.
>
>In the Grand Tournament, players lost points for not modelling AA on their
>vehicles.
>
>I've been trying to design AA for my IG vehicles that can be removed to
>represent it blowing off.
>
Why not just wire up some firecrackers under it. Incredibly
realistic. Well, it could get real expensive unless you use non-GW
tanks. God forbid!
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Hawker112
Personally, I'd just go for a removable skirt that you hang over the
tracks. Seems they usually get hit first anyways.
Ablative doesn't work on tracks I didn't think? Or was that reinforced?
Meridian
That's reinforced. Ablative is a free penetration nullified anywhere.
d.b.ma...@uclan.ac.uk
In article <337643...@execpc.com>,
Remember that if the attack doesn't have to Penetrate, it doesn't get
stopped by Ablative Armour. It won't protect against a Wraithcannon,
forex.
I also think that Ablative armour on a Chaos dreadnought won't protect
their missile rack (I forget the proper name). The missiles are
destroyed when the dreadnought takes a hull hit that is sufficient to
penetrate the Hull (and is on the hull, natch). Thus, you would take a
damage roll and loose your missiles. With ablative the hull penetration
is stopped, but the missiles are still destroyed. Any thoughts?
Obviously, this interpretation would mean that ablative armour wouldn't
stop a Dozer blade on an imperial vehicle being destroyed either.
Dan
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Per Andersson
Paul Chappell <pcha...@illinova.com> wrote:
(snip)
>The reason for the tournie limits on vehicle cards..... What were they
>thinking?
Ever played against an IG army really maxed out on ablative-armored
tanks?
I played one 2000 point game vs an IG army wiht 7(!) tans, al equipped
with ablative armor. Great fun (once), but _not_ a thing you'd like to
face in a tourney...
Per Andersson
Paul Chappell
Yes, exactly..... I got real sick of seeing Every vehicle on the board
having Ablative armor. For 15 points, 1st hit is free, but it's 50
points for ceramite (?) and vortex detonators....
>
> Per Andersson
Maffu
pan...@ts.umu.se (Per Andersson) wrote:
>Ever played against an IG army really maxed out on ablative-armored
>tanks?
>I played one 2000 point game vs an IG army wiht 7(!) tans, al equipped
>with ablative armor. Great fun (once), but _not_ a thing you'd like to
>face in a tourney...
Heck, before my local group actually read the rules and found the one
about tanks not being allowed to have identical vehicle card combos,
my standard forces (averaging 4 LRs and two specialist tanks) all came
standard with Ablative and Reinforced armor. All of them.
Talk about loss of morale for your opponent when he just can't seem to
punch through those tanks...
--I find your lack of faith...disturbing
-Lord Vader
--Matt, Tanker Supreme
Meridian
Per Andersson wrote:
>
> Paul Chappell <pcha...@illinova.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> >The reason for the tournie limits on vehicle cards..... What were they
> >thinking?
>
> tanks?
>
> I played one 2000 point game vs an IG army wiht 7(!) tans, al equipped
> with ablative armor. Great fun (once), but _not_ a thing you'd like to
> face in a tourney...
I play IG (tho I haven't for awhile), and my tanks ALWAYS have Ablative.
Prevents that lucky lascannon shot from bagging my prized tank.
BUT, the point is that in HTH ablative doesn't matter worth a damn.
Meridian
Maffu wrote:
> Heck, before my local group actually read the rules and found the one
> about tanks not being allowed to have identical vehicle card combos,
> my standard forces (averaging 4 LRs and two specialist tanks) all came
> standard with Ablative and Reinforced armor. All of them.
> Talk about loss of morale for your opponent when he just can't seem to
> punch through those tanks...
I was wodering - I haven't used Reinforced armour before. Is it
worthwhile? The +1 is nice, and the speed difference isn't too big a
deal. But is it worth it for tanks? I know dice rolling is a bell curve,
and depending on the specific dice rolled, it'll be worthless or
invaluable.
Anyone with a calculator and a couple free hours want to figure out of
its worthwhile?
Anyways, I was thinking, and I DO think I'll take reinforced armour for
my landspeeders from now on, though. After all, having an 11 AV in front
means normal troops can't penetrate...