[Model][40K] Progress Part Deux...
Richard Busby
work on the base now. Looking at the pics my highlights look like they
were applied by someone with Parkinson's... apologies to those of you
that DO have Parkinson's.
Obligatory loadout shot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1820.jpg
Three quarter shot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1822.jpg
The passenger compartment:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1852.jpg
"Midnight Mickey":
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1823.jpg
Playa
Hey,
On Dec 9, 1:18 am, Richard Busby <richbu...@hatespam.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> my highlights look like they
> were applied by someone with Parkinson's
Heh. Occupational hazard - the downside of Extreme Close-ups.
> "Midnight Mickey"
Wow, that looks pretty good to me.
That's some especially nice work on the canopy area.
My only gripe would be some of the red seems too ... festive.
(I've got a thing about showroom-perfect combat gear.)
I'd knock it down with some dark ink, but that's me.
Scuff-up the ramp a bit too, for that lived-in look.
Aw, whadda ya expect, I play Chaos. :- D
Nicely done, Mr. Busby!
Playa
Doctor Rock
"Richard Busby" <rich...@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Got the Valk/Vendetta in tabletop shape more or less... just need to work
> on the base now. Looking at the pics my highlights look like they were
> applied by someone with Parkinson's... apologies to those of you that DO
> have Parkinson's.
ttttttttthhhhaat''sss nnnoottttt fffffuuunnyyyy ssssiiiiiirrrr
nice bird. the red gun muzzles are very xmassy!
Myrmidon
rich...@hatespam.bellsouth.net says...
> Got the Valk/Vendetta in tabletop shape more or less... just need to
> work on the base now. Looking at the pics my highlights look like they
> were applied by someone with Parkinson's... apologies to those of you
> that DO have Parkinson's.
>
> Obligatory loadout shot:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1820.jpg
>
never get mine done and looking as nice.) I take it from the load-out
that your weapons options are swappable? Did you go with magnets or
some other method?
> Three quarter shot:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1822.jpg
>
He's got a skull for a head! Never fly with a dead guy as the
pilot...
> The passenger compartment:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1852.jpg
Did you paint parts before assembly?
>
> "Midnight Mickey":
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1823.jpg
>
Nice, is that from a WW II decal set?
Nicely done. With a paint job like that, do you really
need a fancy base on the flight stand?
Myrmidon :)
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Richard B
> Wow, that looks pretty good to me.
> That's some especially nice work on the canopy area.
> My only gripe would be some of the red seems too ... festive.
The flash on the camera really makes the red pop... it doesn't look
near that bright in person. I was going for a retro Night Fighter look
based largely on WWII era craft and the black and red scheme was
common.
> (I've got a thing about showroom-perfect combat gear.)
> I'd knock it down with some dark ink, but that's me.
> Scuff-up the ramp a bit too, for that lived-in look.
It could stand a good muddying up. The overall theme is an "Army of
Darkness" with Imperial Guard gear instead so the gritty and dirty
look would fit.
> Nicely done, Mr. Busby!
You're too kind. :)
Richard B
>
> ttttttttthhhhaat''sss nnnoottttt fffffuuunnyyyy ssssiiiiiirrrr
>
> nice bird. the red gun muzzles are very xmassy!
Many Tanks!
Richard B
> Nice! Like the color scheme. (You make me despair that I'll
> never get mine done and looking as nice.) I take it from the load-out
> that your weapons options are swappable? Did you go with magnets or
> some other method?
The color scheme was inspired by the Forgeworld Vendetta setup. It has
a huge forward looking camera/optic thingie that reminds me of the
LLTV setup on an AC-130. They operate at night which made me think of
night fighter aircraft from WW2. That reminded me of the P-61 decal
sheet from Superscale that was in the spares box and thus an idea was
born!
Yep, all the weapons are swappable. I've got 1/8" x 1/16" neodymium
magnets in the pylons as well as that funky nose side weapon mount.
Right now only the lascannons, missile pods and multilaser are
actually magnetized because the other loadouts suck and that would be
a waste of magnets.
> He's got a skull for a head! Never fly with a dead guy as the
> pilot...
Heh... yeah in the fluff my IG army is mostly dead guys brought back
by a Radical Inquisitor using foul majiks. The Inquisitor himself is
now a full blown Liche.
> Did you paint parts before assembly?
No, I got this great set of 90 degree bent paint brushes and a surplus
colonoscopy fibre optic setup...
Just kidding. Yeah I painted and washed with Devlan Mud before
assembly.
> Nice, is that from a WW II decal set?
Yep. Superscale... this one: http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/decals/super/48th/ss48042.htm
> Nicely done. With a paint job like that, do you really
> need a fancy base on the flight stand?
Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, I suffer from AMS (Anal
Modeler Syndrome) and must paint things that are not seen, include
details that are hidden, etc. The base will be detailed, flocked and
painted. The damn thing is so big (it's the same base that the LOTR
Mumakil comes on I think) it begs for a vignette or diorama treatment.
That gives me an idea... maybe a graveyard scene with a new "recruit"
clawing his way out of the ground.... :)
Craig Little
> On Dec 9, 6:38 am, Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, I suffer from AMS (Anal
> Modeler Syndrome)
Giggity. No wonder you're a rgmw-er.
--
Craig
Rehlow
> On Dec 9, 6:38 am, Myrmidon <Im...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Nice! Like the color scheme. (You make me despair that I'll
> > never get mine done and looking as nice.) I take it from the load-out
> > that your weapons options are swappable? Did you go with magnets or
> > some other method?
>
> The color scheme was inspired by the Forgeworld Vendetta setup. It has
> a huge forward looking camera/optic thingie that reminds me of the
> LLTV setup on an AC-130. They operate at night which made me think of
> night fighter aircraft from WW2. That reminded me of the P-61 decal
> sheet from Superscale that was in the spares box and thus an idea was
> born!
>
I like how it turned out. Makes me want to work on painting my Stompa
some more.
> Yep, all the weapons are swappable. I've got 1/8" x 1/16" neodymium
> magnets in the pylons as well as that funky nose side weapon mount.
> Right now only the lascannons, missile pods and multilaser are
> actually magnetized because the other loadouts suck and that would be
> a waste of magnets.
>
> > He's got a skull for a head! Never fly with a dead guy as the
> > pilot...
>
> Heh... yeah in the fluff my IG army is mostly dead guys brought back
> by a Radical Inquisitor using foul majiks. The Inquisitor himself is
> now a full blown Liche.
>
So he is supposed to be Ghost Rider. Sweet.
Later,
~Rehlow
Andy O'Neill
technique.
The big plusses are soft and cheap with big belly, resonable point.
When doing lightly loaded work I'm less concerned the brush will dry out
because it doesn't cost a fortune like a large koliunsky sable would do.
It's significantly better quality than the cheap pony haired revell/humbrol
I prevoiously used for this sort of thing.
http://s523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/
Fuller story
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66582
Robert Singers
> I've been painting Skaven using my new squirrel hair brush and a loose
> technique.
Frankly they look awful. If you want to paint skaven quickly they're a
perfect candidate for the army builder dipping method or using the Vallejo
Black and brown shades. If you had an air brush you could base coat
hundreds of the buggers to make it even quicker.
Playa
Hey,
On Dec 10, 5:59 am, "Andy O'Neill" <aon14nocannedm...@lycos.co.uk>
wrote:
> I've been painting Skaven using my new squirrel hair brush
I use a similar technique using disposable kiddie brushes.
These get me through the "missed a spot" priming phase.
They're also useful for that first drybrush to scope detail.
They're awful, terrible brushes; all wrong for Teh Hobby -
Plastic handles, aluminum ferrules, nylon bristles ...
But they're a buck a handful at the Dollar Store.
Once I've developed a plan of attack, these are set aside.
I will pick them back up for inking/ stippling/ basing, etc.
But I'm too frugal to use sable brushes for those. ;- )
Hmmm ... those don't look lke Citadel bases.
What are you using there? Pennies?
Playa
Andy O'Neill
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Hey,
Playa
Plasticard squares glued to pennies.
UK pennies have a steel centre so they stick to magnetic vinyl.
Andy O'Neill
"Robert Singers" <sing...@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I want to paint Skaven well but reasonably quickly.
The aim of the pictures is to demonstrate a technique stage by stage.
They're half done right now.
Which would be why they look half done.
You muppet.
Blackheart
wrote:
> The aim of the pictures is to demonstrate a technique stage by stage.
> They're half done right now.
> Which would be why they look half done.
> You muppet.
who wants popcorn?
Minty fresh
>
> I want to paint Skaven well but reasonably quickly.
>
> The aim of the pictures is to demonstrate a technique stage by stage.
> They're half done right now.
> Which would be why they look half done.
> You muppet.
So let's recap. You posted a link to a photo of a bad base coating job and
a forum with a little vanity post. You state you want to paint them "well"
but quickly and you call me a muppet because I suggest two tried and true
methods for painting miniatures well but quickly. As there has never been
any evidence that you can paint anything "well" - which in this instance
we'll take to mean "in a good or satisfactory manner" (as basically you do
seem to have some problem with the English language) - you do appear to
actually need some help.
It is a fairly basic premise with painting miniatures. If you do a bad base
coat it is very hard to get a good final result. Which is exactly why the
army builder method works so well. You do a good base coat and the product
takes care of the shading and highlighting. Not the other way around.
Minty fresh
>
> who wants popcorn?
Flaming Andy isn't really a spectator sport. Muppet is about as bold as he
will get. If you reply in kind he wets himself and runs away. He's sadder
than Justin Taylor. I've always wondered if Andy too likes to play at a
club with lots of kids so he has a chance of beating someone.
Blackheart
> "Blackheart" wrote
>
>
>
> > who wants popcorn?
>
> Flaming Andy isn't really a spectator sport.
but if anyone can make it entertaining, you can.
that reminds me(don't ask me how)... I need to seal and prime some
stuff tomorrow and take pictures since it's going to be warm. (for
December in Maryland)...
Minty fresh
> On Dec 14, 5:16 pm, "Minty fresh" <rsing...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Blackheart" wrote
>> > who wants popcorn?
>>
>> Flaming Andy isn't really a spectator sport.
>
> but if anyone can make it entertaining, you can.
That brought a tear to my eye.
> that reminds me(don't ask me how)... I need to seal and prime some
> stuff tomorrow and take pictures since it's going to be warm. (for
> December in Maryland)...
Sounds like a great thing to do.
Andy O'Neill
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> As there has never been any evidence that you can paint anything "well" -
> which in this instance we'll take to mean "in a good or satisfactory
> manner" (as basically you do seem to have some problem with the English
> language) - you do appear to actually need some help.
That's a sentence?
Thanks for your advice on painting.
Where's your evidence of your own painting expertise?
Robert Singers
> "Minty fresh" <rsin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> As there has never been any evidence that you can paint anything "well" -
>> which in this instance we'll take to mean "in a good or satisfactory
>> manner" (as basically you do seem to have some problem with the English
>> language) - you do appear to actually need some help.
>
> That's a sentence?
That's a grammatically correct sentence, boy. Your problem with the English
language is obviously bigger than I thought.
> Thanks for your advice on painting.
> Where's your evidence of your own painting expertise?
I've posted plenty of it. There's also plenty of excellent material on the
Internet about painting. You hardly have an excuse for being sub-standard
do you.
Andy O'Neill
<<>>
>> Thanks for your advice on painting.
>> Where's your evidence of your own painting expertise?
>
> I've posted plenty of it.
Really?
Pick two or three of your finest.
Demonstrate your mastery of the art.
I'm sure many readers will be pleased to see your pictures again.
Andy O'Neill
Only matte and groundwork to go now.
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpghttp://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_1.jpg
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpghttp://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_2.jpg
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpghttp://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_3.jpg
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpghttp://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpg
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpghttp://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_5.jpg
Robert Singers
> "Robert Singers" wrote
>>> Thanks for your advice on painting.
>>> Where's your evidence of your own painting expertise?
>>
>> I've posted plenty of it.
>
> Really?
>
> Pick two or three of your finest.
> Demonstrate your mastery of the art.
>
> I'm sure many readers will be pleased to see your pictures again.
Well Myr was just saying how much he liked one the other day. So I guess
the readers that matter know where they are.
The thing you don't seem to realize boy, is that you are the dancing monkey,
not the organ grinder. Now dance some more for Blackheart's entertainment.
Myrmidon
aon14noc...@lycos.co.uk says...
> My clanrats are nearing completion.
> Only matte and groundwork to go now.
Sorry I missed this earlier.
>
> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_1.jpg
> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_2.jpg
> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_3.jpg
> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpg
> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_5.jpg
>
Fixed your links (for some reason they all came out with #4 link
at the beginning of all the others) The lighting is better in picture 3
- did you use a flash or simply better direct lighting?
These already hae a coat of varnish on them? If so, what brand are you
using, and how did you get your results? A lot of folks seem to have
very inconsistant results, so I'm always on the lookout for info.
I like the green and the metallics. About the only thing I think I'd do
differently is add a bit of rust to their metal bits as the Skaven never
struck me as the most tiddy of WFB races. Love the rat with the cloth
banner, and the golden bells make a nice contrast.
How many of these little goobers did you have to paint up?
Myr
--
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- Chris Jones
Andy O'Neill
>> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_1.jpg
>> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_2.jpg
>> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_3.jpg
>> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_4.jpg
>> http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w352/aon14/WFB/Skaven_Varnished_5.jpg
>>
> Fixed your links (for some reason they all came out with #4 link
> at the beginning of all the others)
Cheers Myr.
Didn't notice that.
> The lighting is better in picture 3
> - did you use a flash or simply better direct lighting?
Almost the same technique for all of them - but that evening was the first
time I tried it.
I have one of those task lights with a long fluorescent bulb.
It's an actulite but I reckon any similar one would work.
I position that above the camera and close to the figures.
I then have the base of my camera flat on the table - no tripod or anything.
Take 3 or 4 pictures at different distances and choose the best.
Still needs a bit more experimentation to get exactly right.
>
> These already hae a coat of varnish on them? If so, what brand are you
> using, and how did you get your results? A lot of folks seem to have
> very inconsistant results, so I'm always on the lookout for info.
Varnish is a recurring theme discussed on the Steve Dean forum.
The pros there can't agree now blackthorn matte changed.
They're varnished with water based acrylic matte.
Ronseal diamond hard varnish.
Dunno if that's only available in the UK but it's a DIY product in a 250mil
tin.
Stir well each time.
Still goes on slightly satin despite being called matte but way less shiny
than the gloss.
Then a layer of Winsor & Newton matte acrylic which is VERY matte.
You want an even thin layer.
I use a cheap size 4 sable.
Load, draw off most then make completely sure by drawing across a piece of
paper.
I'm looking for brush that's just damp.
If you prefer spirit based then Daler Rowney soluble matte varnish.
That's what Dallimore is using now.
>
> I like the green and the metallics. About the only thing I think I'd do
> differently is add a bit of rust to their metal bits as the Skaven never
> struck me as the most tiddy of WFB races. Love the rat with the cloth
> banner, and the golden bells make a nice contrast.
Thanks.
I thought about doing the rust like White Dwarf but I decided I didn't like
the look.
There's a bit of red-brown scrumbled on between metallic layers.
I think the artificial lighting almost completely overshelms it though.
>
> How many of these little goobers did you have to paint up?
Gizza chance mate.
That's the first 20 of a coupla hundred.
Robert Singers
> Then a layer of Winsor & Newton matte acrylic which is VERY matte.
> You want an even thin layer.
> I use a cheap size 4 sable.
> Load, draw off most then make completely sure by drawing across a piece of
> paper.
IME it's not particularly stable over time. It frosts over time.
Myrmidon
sing...@finger.hotmail.com says...
Hmmmm, that would be VERY surprising. Winsor & Newton design
archival grade materials specifically geared towards professional
artists who's artwork is ment to last decades if not centuries. I have
yet to see acrylic of any sort 'cloud up' or 'frost' with age. Not
saying it couldn't happen, but I've yet to see or hear of any artists
noting it happening with their artworks, and the stuff has been around
for at least the better part of 2 decades if not longer.
Myrmidon
--
"I'm already impoverished from buying wargames minis,
and I'm too knackered for riotous living..."
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Andy O'Neill
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> In article <hgnmb1$rpk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> sing...@finger.hotmail.com says...
>> "Andy O'Neill" wrote
>> > Then a layer of Winsor & Newton matte acrylic which is VERY matte.
<<>>
>
> Hmmmm, that would be VERY surprising. Winsor & Newton design
> archival grade materials specifically geared towards professional
> artists who's artwork is ment to last decades if not centuries.
I've been using it over a decade on and off.
If it's going to frost it'll do so as it dries.
To avoid frosting, avoid any gunk that'd built up and apply a very thin
layer at a time.
If it's not matte enough apply another very thin layer.
Robert Singers
> Hmmmm, that would be VERY surprising. Winsor & Newton design
> archival grade materials specifically geared towards professional
> artists who's artwork is ment to last decades if not centuries. I have
> yet to see acrylic of any sort 'cloud up' or 'frost' with age. Not
> saying it couldn't happen, but I've yet to see or hear of any artists
> noting it happening with their artworks, and the stuff has been around
> for at least the better part of 2 decades if not longer.
Frost might be too harsh. An increased dulling might be more accurate. I
know some people aim for dull little miniatures on the the table but I like
a bit of "pop" on miniatures to attract the eye.
smcdaniel1
"Richard Busby" <rich...@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Got the Valk/Vendetta in tabletop shape more or less... just need to work
> on the base now. Looking at the pics my highlights look like they were
> applied by someone with Parkinson's... apologies to those of you that DO
> have Parkinson's.
>
> Obligatory loadout shot:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1820.jpg
>
> Three quarter shot:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1822.jpg
>
> The passenger compartment:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1852.jpg
>
> "Midnight Mickey":
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Hive_Tyrant/40K/UndeadGuard/PDRM1823.jpg
Things are getting painted. WTF do you people want?
Myrmidon
says...
Myr :)
--
And I want someone to slap me with a fish every time I buy something
new, assemble it, and then leave it unpainted for months.
- Jakearon
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