GW items, status Not Yet Announced (NYA)
From the Alliance Online Catalog
NYA GAW 35-31 40K: Chaos Space Marines Chaos Space Marines $8.00
NYA GAW 35-32 40K: Eldar Guardians $8.00
NYA GAW 35-33 40K: Imperial Guard Cadians $8.00
NYA GAW 40-02-N 40K: Rulebook 5th Ed Hardback $50.00
NYA GAW 40-07 40K: Apocalypse Vol II $25.00
NYA GAW 43-99 40K: Chaos Space Marines Renegade Strike Force
$240.00
NYA GAW 46-05 40K: Eldar Army $175.00
NYA GAW 48-99 40K: Space Marines Strike Force $200.00
NYA GAW 49-99 40K: Necron Warrior Phalanx $200.00
NYA GAW 51-99 40K: TY Assault Brood $180.00
NYA GAW 60-01-N Supplies: How To Paint Citadel Miniatures $25.00
NYA GAW 60-21 Supplies: Paint Set Wash $25.00
NYA GAW 62-09 Supplies: Spray Propellant $8.00
NYA GAW 66-11-N Supplies: Citadel Spray Gun $30.00
NYA GAW 64-06 TR Citadel Battlemat $30.00
NYA GAW 65-06 Warhammer 40K: Template Set $6.00
NYA GAW 65-29 Warhammer 40K: Counter Set $15.00
NYA GAW 68-19 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Baal Red Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-20 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Asurmen Blue Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-21 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Thraka Green Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-22 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Badab Black Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-23 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Gryphonne Sepia Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-24 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Ogryn Flesh Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-25 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Devlan Mud Wash $18.00
NYA GAW 68-26 Supplies & Tools: Paint - Leviathan Purple Wash
$18.00
NYA GAW 85-01-N Fantasy Battle: DE Dark Elf Army Book $22.00
NYA GAW 85-02 Fantasy Battle: DE Dark Elf Spearhead $192.00
NYA GAW 85-08-N Fantasy Battle: DE Black Ark Corsairs $22.00
NYA GAW 85-11-N Fantasy Battle: DE Cold One Knights $22.00
NYA GAW 85-13-N Fantasy Battle: DE Dark Elf Battalion $90.00
NYA GAW 85-14-N Fantasy Battle: DE War Hydra $40.00
NYA GAW 85-15 Fantasy Battle: DE Witch Elves $20.00
NYA GAW 85-16-N Fantasy Battle: DE Witch Elves Command $22.00
NYA GAW 85-17 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Executioners $20.00
NYA GAW 85-18 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Executioner Command
$22.00
NYA GAW 85-19 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Black Guard $20.00
NYA GAW 85-20 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Black Guard Command
$22.00
NYA GAW 85-21 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Shades $20.00
NYA GAW 85-35 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Assassin $10.00
NYA GAW 85-37 Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Lokhir Fellheart $6.00
NYA GAW 85-43-N Warhammer Fantasy Battle: DE Dreadlord $6.00
NYA GAW 85-44 Fantasy Battle: DE Dreadlord On Cold One $10.00
NYA GAW 85-45-N Fantasy Battle: DE Supreme Sorceress On Cold One
$10.00
NYA GAW 85-46-N Fantasy Battle: DE Supreme Sorceress $6.00
NYA GAW 85-55 Fantasy Battle: DE Morathi On Dark Pegasus $25.00
NYA GAW 85-56 Fantasy Battle: DE Shadowblade Assassin $6.00
NYA GAW 97-10 Daemons: Plaguebearers Of Nurgle $20.00
NYA GAW 97-11 Daemons: Plaguebearers Of Nurgle Command $22.00
NYA GAW 97-12 Daemons: Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch $20.00
NYA GAW 97-13 Daemons: Flamers Of Tzeentch $15.00
NYA GAW 97-14 Daemons: Flesh Hounds Of Khorne $30.00
NYA GAW 97-15 Daemons: Screamers Of Tzeentch $25.00
NYA GAW 97-17 40k: Daemons - Soul Grinder $65.00
NYA GAW 97-18 Daemons: Greater Daemon of Tzeentch $45.00
NYA GAW 97-19 Daemons: Greater Daemon of Nurgle $45.00
NYA GAW 97-20 Daemons: Greater Daemon of Khorne $45.00
NYA GAW 97-21 Daemons: Greater Daemon of Slaanesh $45.00
NYA GAW 97-22 Daemons: Bloodcrusher Of Khorne $20.00
NYA GAW 97-23 Daemons: Epidemius $35.00
NYA GAW 97-35 Daemons: Skulltaker $17.00
NYA GAW 97-36 Daemons: Masque $12.00
NYA GAW 97-37 Daemons: Beast Of Nurgle $20.00
NYA GAW 97-38 Daemons: Fiend Of Slaanesh $20.00
NYA GAW 97-39 Daemons: Karanak $17.00
NYA GAW 97-40 Daemons: Nurglings $15.00
http://www.alliance-games.com/publicaccess/
Notes:
Are those the rumored snaptite Cadians?
Apocalypse 2! So, another wave of megaboxes . . .
Propellant + gun = Airbrush kit!
The new temp sets are to be green per the 40kA variety.
Another "Battlemat"? Only $30 . . .
40k counter sets, too. (You're on a roll, Myr.)
They've put names to the inks. $18? Per gallon?
Did GDs come *down* in price? No way.
Unless, possibly new plastic GDs?
Bloodcrusher = plastic Jugger, iirc.
Nurglings $15? Per pound?
Quite a few surprises and unanswered questions, there.
Playa
I'm not overwhelmed by the idea of snaptite Cadian figures. (We've
already GOT plastic cadians.) Where's the plastic version of the Death
Korps of Krieg / Steel Legion figures that folks have been clamoring for
for ages?
> Apocalypse 2! So, another wave of megaboxes . . .
Hmmm, wonder if it'll be the same book basically with less
'fluff' (I.e. a shit load less pics/battle reports) repackaged into a
more affordable format. (Or a load of 'data-fax' sheets for various
things repackaged in book form.) Either one would not surprise me.
>
> Propellant + gun = Airbrush kit!
>
True, but the can propellent kits are generally low quality. Which
is why a good airbrush and compressor set remain relatively expensive by
comparison. Uneven air pressure equals spatter and spray patterns on
one's working surface - which generally isn't what one is going for.
Even the airbrush + pressure tank systems are a trade off as the
pressure can drop off fairly quickly depending on the job.
> The new temp sets are to be green per the 40kA variety.
> Another "Battlemat"? Only $30 . . .
> 40k counter sets, too. (You're on a roll, Myr.)
>
Gee, I wonder if they'll produce more than 30 to 60 mats for the
whole of North America this time. (That was an amazingly short sighted
business choice on GW's part - again.) On the plus side it has helped
their competitors like Rackham sell similar products at a lower price.
As for the 40K counter sets - I'm not holding my breath. I'll wait
until I see them. The counter sets they sold for City Fight were
'craptacular' to put it mildly. They had the look of something thrown
together in 30 minutes or less as an after thought.
Hell, the counters I designed have had more than 460+ downloads from
Spacks' site - which isn't bad considering how rarely I advertise them.
http://www.ageofstrife.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6
And I'm not a photoshop wizard by any stretch of the imagination. GW's
got the background art needed to do some truly kick-ass counters, but to
date they've failed miserably. Perhaps this time is the time the come
out with something good - but I'll look first and spend later if at all.
> They've put names to the inks. $18? Per gallon?
Per gallon? Heh - my you're optimistic, aren't you? ;)
> Did GDs come *down* in price? No way.
> Unless, possibly new plastic GDs?
I'd be nigh well shocked if there was a price drop. Considering
that plastic Dreads remained the same price as metal Dreads when the
plastics came out. (And this long long before oil prices went through
the roof.)
Myr :)
--
"I'm already impoverished from buying wargames minis,
and I'm too knackered for riotous living..."
-- Moramarth
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On May 4, 10:16 am, Myrmidon <im...@home.com> wrote:
> In article <99ff2584-48d3-4f61-9107-
> e26fcce3d...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, JohnPaulPont...@gmail.com
> says...
> > Are those the rumored snaptite Cadians?
> We've already GOT plastic cadians
We've got Cadians for $1.75 apiece. Troop slots are @25 models ea.
All we are saying, is give 50 cent one-pieces a chance.
> Where's the plastic version of the Death Korps of Krieg / Steel Legion
Busy not competing with the profitable FW versions.
> > Apocalypse 2! So, another wave of megaboxes . . .
> wonder if it'll be the same book basically with less 'fluff'
Heh. Good one.
> (Or a load of 'data-fax' sheets for various things repackaged in book form.)
Data Sheets for repackaged models representing "Formations" most
likely.
See the Renegade Strike Force and Assault Brood entries above.
> > Propellant + gun = Airbrush kit!
> True, but the can propellent kits are generally low quality
They look to be aimed at Mallbrats with Mumsie's Gold Card.
That's not the most discriminating bunch.
> > Another "Battlemat"? Only $30 . . .
> Gee, I wonder if they'll produce more than 30
Why? Printshops can do a 4x6ft greyscale Cityfight mat for $12:
http://www.shop.gamer-printshop.com/main.sc
> > $18? Per gallon?
> my you're optimistic, aren't you?
The full set of pots is $25, but a single pot is $18?
They'd have to be 6x the volume to sell at all.
> > Unless, possibly new plastic GDs?
> plastic Dreads remained the same price as metal Dreads
They filled the same niche in their monopolistic ecosystem.
Where else were kids going to go for Dreadnoughts?
> long before oil prices went through the roof
I'm not buying that excuse - figs aren't made of oil.
Ever wonder why Citadel sprues are different colors?
They're made from recyclable thermoplastic resin.
Playa
You're assuming that you're getting more than say 5 snaptite
figures for your $8. I'm not making any such assumption.
>
> > Where's the plastic version of the Death Korps of Krieg / Steel Legion
>
> Busy not competing with the profitable FW versions.
>
Apparently.
> > > Apocalypse 2! So, another wave of megaboxes . . .
> > wonder if it'll be the same book basically with less 'fluff'
>
> Heh. Good one.
>
> > (Or a load of 'data-fax' sheets for various things repackaged in book form.)
>
> Data Sheets for repackaged models representing "Formations" most
> likely.
> See the Renegade Strike Force and Assault Brood entries above.
In other words, the usual.
>
> > > Propellant + gun = Airbrush kit!
> > True, but the can propellent kits are generally low quality
>
> They look to be aimed at Mallbrats with Mumsie's Gold Card.
> That's not the most discriminating bunch.
Frightenly true.
>
> > > Another "Battlemat"? Only $30 . . .
> > Gee, I wonder if they'll produce more than 30
>
> Why? Printshops can do a 4x6ft greyscale Cityfight mat for $12:
>
> http://www.shop.gamer-printshop.com/main.sc
>
Hey! Thanks for the link, I haven't seen that one before. The
really good local print shop (which could do large print jobs at a
reasonable price) just recently got bought out by a big national chain -
which then moved it 30 miles away into a nearby city. (Dumb-asses!)
> > > $18? Per gallon?
> > my you're optimistic, aren't you?
>
> The full set of pots is $25, but a single pot is $18?
> They'd have to be 6x the volume to sell at all.
>
Somehow, I'm thinking typo on the $18 a pot price tag, but I could
be wrong.
> > > Unless, possibly new plastic GDs?
> > plastic Dreads remained the same price as metal Dreads
>
> They filled the same niche in their monopolistic ecosystem.
> Where else were kids going to go for Dreadnoughts?
>
So many choices... (Seriously, didn't you yourself use a non-GW
model from a comic figure sculpt as your Deamon Prince?)
> > long before oil prices went through the roof
>
> I'm not buying that excuse - figs aren't made of oil.
> Ever wonder why Citadel sprues are different colors?
> They're made from recyclable thermoplastic resin.
>
Oh, I'm not buying it either as a reason, simply pointing out GW's
long standing history of not lowering prices even if the production cost
and materials drop for GW iteself.
Myr
--
"Conan, what is best in life?"
"To paint your miniatures, to see them driven before you on the table,
and to hear the lamentation of the cheese-mongers!"
- Del Webb
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Alliance Games are a wholesaler - often they price items up by the display
stand/box as well as individually. $18 is likely for a multipack for
splitting out at retail.
--
Dan
http://www.ageofstrife.com
that's my guess as well.. probably a 6 pack of pots at $3 a peice.
retail markup to $4 or $5.
as far as the Apocaclypse Vol 2. probably a compilation of the data
sheets that have been put up on GW's site recently and a few new ones.
On May 5, 6:19 am, Myrmidon <im...@home.com> wrote:
> I'm not making any such assumption
Well, I presumed there was a reason to make Cadians of lower quality.
If that reason wasn't to sell them more cheaply, what could it be?
Maybe for inclusion in the 5th ed box set? Not according to BoLS:
+++
Marines
* Captain with powerfist
* Tactical Squad
* Terminator Squad (possibly "just a couple" instead of a full
squad)
* Dreadnought (only 2 pieces!?!)
~Some or all of the models have been hinted at having Ultramarines
iconography
Orks:
* Warboss
* Twenty Ork boyz (like the four man Ork boys set)
* Twenty Grotz
* Three Deff Koptas
+++
So, they're either RnF filler models, or a new board game is coming
out.
BTW, if true, those are some cool models in the 5th ed box!
(Speaking of plastic Dreads!)
Playa
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Foda_Bett/HT/Pre-orders/?action=view¤t=2.jpg
Apocalypse Reloaded
"Apocalypse Reloaded is a suppliment to the hugely popular Apocalypse
book, crammed full of more than 50 exciting new datasheets, new
strategic assets specific to each Warhammer 40,000 army, and an
Apocalypse battle report that has to be seen to be believed!"
Wow! A battle report? I'm so excited I just peed a little.
Ohh no wait, that's just my incontinence.
And these 86 wonderful pages can be yours for a one time payment of $25!
[DISCLAIMER]
Pages may not be suitable for arse wiping due to gloss finish, Games
Workshop can not be held responsible for any failure of shit removal.
I'm pretty sure that'd be the equivalent of using "recycled" toilet
paper anyway...
--
Erik
Insert soulless sig file here.
I wonder how many of them are actually already available on the web?
There's already 38 of them on the web.
> new
> strategic assets specific to each Warhammer 40,000 army,
Could be interesting. Could be very broken too.
> and an
> Apocalypse battle report that has to be seen to be believed!"
>
> Wow! A battle report? I'm so excited I just peed a little.
>
> Ohh no wait, that's just my incontinence.
>
> And these 86 wonderful pages can be yours for a one time payment of $25!
Can't be worse than 20 pages of rules and a butt-load of battle
reports for $50.
>
> [DISCLAIMER]
> Pages may not be suitable for arse wiping due to gloss finish, Games
> Workshop can not be held responsible for any failure of shit removal.
>
Obviously you guys aren't familiar without out-houses. You have
to crumple and unfold the paper over and over until you've softened it
up. (Ahh the joys of living in Indiana as a kid...)
Myr
On May 6, 7:18 am, oeb <what.will.i.do.with.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Foda_Bett/HT/Pre-orders/
1. $50 RB
2. $50 RB w/ Purity Seal for +$40 . . .
3. $50 RB w/ Fig case, Temps and Counters for +$40.
4. Apocalypse Reload w/ evidently, new Missions.
As 40kA was 90% ad filler, I'l wait and see this time.
Playa
On May 6, 7:18 am, oeb <what.will.i.do.with.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> crammed full of more than 50 exciting new datasheets, new
> strategic assets specific to each Warhammer 40,000 army, and an
> Apocalypse battle report that has to be seen to be believed
Update from BoLS:
http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/
+++
* 88-pages
* Contains 50 new Apocalypse Datasheets (unknown if this includes
the current ones online)
* New army-specific Strategic Assets
* A monumental battle report "that has to seen to be believed"
As part of this rollout, several of the larger Apocalypse boxed sets
(like the Battle Company, Tank Company, etc...) are supposedly being
re-released, as well a a load of new boxed sets for the included
Datasheets.
+++
All previews spec "new" DSheets, so assume no old ones included.
Theoretical math: 88pgs minus 50 new sheets = 38pgs.
That's not nearly enough to cover the obligatory ad photos.
Traditionally, these have been a majority in any "expansion".
So, probably half-page Sheets with accompanying box set ad.
Subtract 1pg for SAs and 1 for that "monumental" BR.
That would leave 36 pages for lavish full-colour pimpery.
Thus, 50 half-pages + 36 full = 61/88, or 70% ads.
Now, that's more like it.
Plus, we finally hear the reason 40k FAQs haven't been maintained:
They've been too busy with 5th ed the last four years . . .
On 12 July, all these FAQs will be updated for fifth -
Black Templars
Marines
Tau
Necrons
Guard
Nids
Blood Angels
Wolves
Dark Eldar
Witch Hunters
Daemon Hunters
And some will be replaced:
Eldar
5/15/2008
CSM
5/15/2008
Orks
5/29/2008
Dark Angels
5/29/2008
And, of course, the new kid:
Daemons
7/28/2008
Playa
> On 12 July, all these FAQs will be updated for fifth -
Apparently GW are now stating that the dates for the FAQs are not set in
stone, they are target dates. Sigh ...
Hi guys
From my understanding (and no, I haven't seen the book), the datasheets
consist of "the pick of the litter" from our web site and a few new
datasheets for each army, totalling 50 sheets in all. I haven't heard
anything at all about there being IA: Apoc sheets included, so i
wouldn't be worried about that at all. I also have not heard about any
crazy scratchbuilds for any of the armies, but hey, it could happen.
All in all it looks like a good bit of fun for those that have been
having a great time with Apocalypse.
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Dave Taylor (as in works for GW.)
SO - not even all new data sheets. I'm wondering in fact how many of
the 50 are in fact ones we haven't seen before.
> Theoretical math: 88pgs minus 50 new sheets = 38pgs.
> That's not nearly enough to cover the obligatory ad photos.
> Traditionally, these have been a majority in any "expansion".
>
At least they've attempted to advertise in the form of battle
reports and not just blantant ads in the core rules themselves like in
Inquisitor... Still, I'll take substance over eye-candy any day.
> So, probably half-page Sheets with accompanying box set ad.
> Subtract 1pg for SAs and 1 for that "monumental" BR.
> That would leave 36 pages for lavish full-colour pimpery.
>
> Thus, 50 half-pages + 36 full = 61/88, or 70% ads.
> Now, that's more like it.
>
I'm taking a wait and see approach with this one too. As much as I'd
like to be enthused about it since I like 40KA, way to much past GW
experience (like the $50 Apocalypse book) tells me to wait and let
someone else shell out for it first, or at least get a good hands on
preview before I decide to part with any cash.
Myr
--
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considered the scum of the GW gaming community.
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On May 10, 10:56 pm, Myrmidon <im...@home.com> wrote:
> In article <3ff250db-eb2d-4338-8a14-97f64184d4d4
> @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, JohnPaulPont...@gmail.com says...
> > All previews spec "new" DSheets, so assume no old ones included.
> From my understanding (and no, I haven't seen the book)
Translation:
"Understanding" = "Informal hearsay from notoriously unreliable
source".
"Haven't seen" = "Not even remotely working on the project in any
fashion".
Conclusion:
Even if he's who he claims he is, he has nothing substantial to
offer.
> I hope this helps
How could anyone believe that uninformed guesswork is helpful?
> works for GW
Ah.
> SO - not even all new data sheets.
I don't believe a word (not that there were any real words there).
Besides, we'll all know the facts in just a little while.
I'm only interested in any new Missions, anyway.
Playa
> I don't believe a word (not that there were any real words there).
> Besides, we'll all know the facts in just a little while.
>
> I'm only interested in any new Missions, anyway.
I'm not even interested in the new missions... Apocalypse was the only
facet of 40K I was interested in.. and the local howler monkey brigade
has made that unplayable as well.
On May 5, 9:07 pm, JohnPaulPont...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 5, 6:19 am, Myrmidon <im...@home.com> wrote:
> > I'm not making any such assumption
> Well, I presumed there was a reason to make Cadians of lower quality.
> If that reason wasn't to sell them more cheaply, what could it be?
Update:
The reason was, of course, to sell them *less* cheaply!
I'm kicking myself for not having guessed this:
Snaptite Orks Release Item Number
99120103008
Marines
99120101035
Gants
99120106009
Just paste those numbers into the search pane of the Online Store.
On a per-model basis, Regiment boxes are far cheaper. The Cadians?
"Perry three-ups where adapted by then-trainee Dave Thomas
to produce these starter IG models in 2006." (Unreleased)
Playa
On May 13, 12:26 am, Blackheart <blackheart666_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Apocalypse was the only facet of 40K I was interested in
The bewildered looks on the cheddarheads at the loss of FOCs was
great.
Superheavies and Flyers were just icing on the goose. Or something.
Assets seem well-intentioned, but balance is still ongoing.
Overall, very interesting indeed.
> the local howler monkey brigade has made that unplayable
What? You're not going to be run off by lower primates, are you?
Humanity's gifts are Machiavellian scheming and Sneaky Gittery.
RGMW 's easily got your back on those two points.
Tell us more about these ... killjoys.
Playa
I'm just not in the mood to deal with them, and my usual methods of
dealing with them (read: questioning their heritage etc) isn't allowed
in the GW shop...
so I just don't bother.
>> the local howler monkey brigade has made that unplayable
>
> What? You're not going to be run off by lower primates, are you?
> Humanity's gifts are Machiavellian scheming and Sneaky Gittery.
> RGMW 's easily got your back on those two points.
>
> Tell us more about these ... killjoys.
>
Even Machiavelli wasn't clever enough to combat gamer BO.
--
Kurt *Kill the nospam to reply*
Chaos. They spread the love for the gods through the universe,
destroying the infidels. Kind of like Catholics, but with cooler wargear.
-- RGMW outtake
LOL! Let the theme music from 'Epic Fail' begin! Apparently they
don't want the 'snap fit' to ever be mistaken as the 'affordable
alternative' to their regular unit boxes. Joy...
> Snaptite Orks Release Item Number
>
> 99120103008
>
> Marines
>
> 99120101035
>
> Gants
>
> 99120106009
>
> Just paste those numbers into the search pane of the Online Store.
Only works in the UK store of course (but then, most of the UK site
works unlike the US site too.) They want 7 pounds for 3 snap-fit
marines, 4 Ork boyz, or 5 Termigants? WTF...
> On a per-model basis, Regiment boxes are far cheaper. The Cadians?
>
> "Perry three-ups where adapted by then-trainee Dave Thomas
> to produce these starter IG models in 2006." (Unreleased)
>
> http://myturl.com/0p0yv
>
Gah! The Cadian snap-fits are the most 'Meh' of the bunch and
just as 'way overpriced' as the rest. About the only useful thing I
learned is that it'll be easy to spot Ork armys with all 'snap-fit
boyz' as the models all have the pistols in the left hands and the melee
weapons in the right.
Thanks for the heads up,