My name is Bear Johnson - I am a regular advertiser here on
R.G.M.W....
I am currently auctioning off a Level 10 Paint Job on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=282988726
I just thought I'd let y'all know!
Bear Johnson
THAT is why I put the links to my gallery on the auction.
I would have answered this privately, but you have'nt got the balls to
leave an address. Rant, but pay no consequence...
Coward.
Bear Johnson
Bear Johnson wrote:
> I would have answered this privately, but you have'nt got the balls to
> leave an address. Rant, but pay no consequence...
The Insane Ranter truly is a wanker coward.
That's why I plonked his ass and don't have
to listen to him. There's plenty more where
that came from, of course, but in the meantime
it's a pleasant respite from idiocy.
RTM
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soiorum." : "This is the only place to which they can flee for refuge,
for this is the haven, the citadel, the altar of our allies."
As for a level 1 paint job imagine using those tester's brushes that have
no points and large gobs of color on an *unprimered* mini and you get the
idea of level 1...:)
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>Biff (hey...@mailexcite.com) wrote:
>: so what does a level 1 paint job look like? for that matter what does a
>: level 32 job look like? i'm curious.
>:
>The scale is usually 1 to 10...10 supposedly being the best...
The following is the Level scale and price guide of the Mercenary
Painters Guild:
1 - brush primed - $.50
2 - comic book coloring - poor detail (table ready) - $1.00
3 - comic book - at least straight lines on detail - $3.00 (detail -
color seperations)
4 - highlights and or shading - $6.00
5 - highlights and or shading with detailing - $8.00 (detailing - belt
buckles, eyes white only)
6 - highlights AND shading with detailing - $10.00
7 - highlights AND shading with GOOD detailing - $12.00 (GOOD
detailing - pupils in eyes, lips, weapon detailing such as bolts on
guns)
8 - Multi layer highlights and or shading with detailing - $15.00
9 - Multi layer highlights AND shading with GOOD detailing -
$18.00
10 - OH MY GOD! - ready to come to life - $25.00 (Life - glint in
eye, cracked finger nails, rust spots on armour, blood on weapons)
NOTE: THESE prices are based on a single 25-28mm "foot" soldier.
NOT war machines, vehicles, or mounted mini's...
The Mercenary Painters Guild:
http://www.globaldominationsystem.net/MPG/
da Bear Cave:
http://www.netmdc.com/~bearcave/
Bear Johnson
One of my problems with the various scales is the inclusion of things like eye
details, at 25-28 mm scale, IMO painted details make the eyes look way too big,
even when done by the best painters.
Death before dishonor,
Nothing before coffee
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NOT when you use a 20X brush....
and super thinned paint...
Bear
Bear Johnson wrote:
> >One of my problems with the various scales is the inclusion of things like eye
> >details, at 25-28 mm scale, IMO painted details make the eyes look way too big,
> >even when done by the best painters.
>
> NOT when you use a 20X brush....
> and super thinned paint...
Thin paint is the key. Some people tell you
to use a toothpick, but that's too big and
doesn't hold paint like a very fine point.
Whatever brush you use, you need fine hairs
and a very sharp point. With sufficiently
thin paint, you can flow into anything.
A lot of people use white, and a lot of
people tell you that white is too dramatic
and will give you a bug-eyed look. I personally
use white, but thin the hell out of it, so the
eyes aren't overly "bright" if you know what
I mean. Follow www.paintingclinic.com for
some other pointers.
As for the scale thing, have you ever measured
the size of GW figs' fingers? Of course it's
not to scale, silly! The point is to look
good on the table top and good in the hand.
If you want realism, paint in Lobinske's style,
and drybrush grime afterwards. Real warriors
aren't clean, and real weapons aren't bright
silver. Play Dirtside instead of Herohammer,
and role-play in GURPS instead of D&D. . .
RTM
- War aint pretty, but ugly doesn't sell to
mall kids. -
It is a matter of scale, the high reflectivity of whites and brigher colors
makes the eyes appear much larger. A 28mm figure held six inches away is like
looking at somebody about 25 feet away, you cannot see eye detail at this
distance, but seeing them at scale makes them appear too large.
> As for the scale thing, have you ever measured
> the size of GW figs' fingers? Of course it's
> not to scale, silly! The point is to look
> good on the table top and good in the hand.
> If you want realism, paint in Lobinske's style,
> and drybrush grime afterwards. Real warriors
> aren't clean, and real weapons aren't bright
> silver. Play Dirtside instead of Herohammer,
> and role-play in GURPS instead of D&D. . .
Oh no! I do both of these things. That may explain why some of my
tactics just don't work in 40K. When I was first introduced to 40K, I
asked if there were rules for counter-battery radar. Oh, the laughter.
My favourite illogic so far is the Catachan battle report in the current
WD. "I deployed my mortars right at the front. . ." or some such
comment.
Strangely, he seemed surprised that they were over-run.
By the way, my Sisters of Battle Immolator is covered in dirt and tarps,
and has extra gas cans lying on top in case it runs out of ammunition.
Now if it could only shoot further than 5m . . .
Paul
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:24:18 -0500, Insane Ranter <n...@spam.me> wrote:
<snip>
>> I am currently auctioning off a Level 10 Paint Job on eBay.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=282988726
>>
>> I just thought I'd let y'all know!
>>
>> Bear Johnson
>
>It's a good job.. but the Space Wolves really are a turn off
<snip>
THAT is why I put the links to my gallery on the auction.
I would have answered this privately, but you have'nt got the balls to
leave an address. Rant, but pay no consequence...
Coward.
Bear Johnson
Oh yes.. put out an e-mail address for the world to have.
I already have to much crap coming in to my e-mail address as it is. Last
time I left a e-mail address on a newsgroup it was spamed to an almost
unusable extent. Thanks buy no thanks
I had a similar experience with regard to the notion of a HQ being the
premier close combat unit in an army.
It also took me several games to stop using sandbags to provide protection
for troops (5+ cover save) and start using cheap troops as screens (better
than sandbags -- can't shoot through them!).
Steve
They don't print bills high enough to sell my work.
The proof is in the puddin':
http://community.webtv.net/Tiger40000/CodexImperialTigers
You hit part of my original statement, often paint quality scales include
stylistic elements like painted eyes, these details are a preference and not a
sign of quality. A good paint scale should not be dictated by painting style,
but by painting quality. For figures, I look at basic construction (mold line
removal, filled joints, glue spillage), basic paint application (brushstrokes,
edge neatness), effective use of shading and highlighting (note, this is by
final effect, not layers of paint or number of hues used, if you blend paints,
you can get an incredible gradient from dark to light using only a base color,
maximum shade and maximum tint), treatment of details and finished base. I
will usually then give a general description of poor, basic tabletop, good
tabletop, contest and good contest quality.
Whether your figures are bright and "larger than life" or olive drab and
grungy, these are stylistic preferences and not indications of painting skill.
Yes, the Basilisk I am working on (with track guards and armored crew
compartment) will be painted in german tricolor (dark yellow, red-brown and
dark green) camo with rusty tracks, sooty exhaust, dirty, grimy and well used,
so it looks like the rest of my IG.
Tiger...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> If that's level 10, then mine goes to 11...
> They don't print bills high enough to sell my work.
> The proof is in the puddin':
> http://community.webtv.net/Tiger40000/CodexImperialTigers
Aarrgh! Great "true 10" paint jobs on the
chapter master and your chaos dude, but
the others could be 4's as far as I can
tell from way back here. The armor could
be REAL nice. . .
Need
More
Close-ups!
Beautiful on the two we can see, man!
You may be right about the painting, but there is one problem.... I CANT
SEE THEM!!!!
May I suggest that you make those THUMBNAIL pics links to larger
pictures of your work? That way we will all be able to appreciate their
magnificence.....
JKD
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Vancouver, BC, Canada
Research Scientist, GW-Outrider
Member RTC, 3rd Edition Fanboy
http://cord.ubc.ca/~steeves/jkd/40k/wh40k-main.html
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For all you'll ever need to know about paint removal, read the
remarkable prose of Blank Dave...
http://www.paintingclinic.com/assist/assist.htm
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My guitar amp goes to 11 so it's, like,one louder.
BTW, the mini in the close up is very nice but I can't really tell about the
others.
--
-smithdoerr
Could it be because you are an ignorant little ten year old, whiny
assed PUNK that shoots off his mouth before he engages his mind?
Hmmm....
I speak WITHOUT FEAR of reprisal.
You are a moron.
Bear Johnson
Bear Johnson wrote:
> Insane Ranter <nod...@bang.me> wrote:
> >Oh yes.. put out an e-mail address for the world to have.
Who cares about you enough? I mean really? Why hide
anything at all? The only people who would (statistically)
want to track you down and murder you in some horrible
fashion already know who you are and where you live.
Chances are, actually, that they live in your home.
You want to find me? Go to my web site. I might even
just put up a link of nearby gun stores. I mean, c'mon,
boy, who gives a fuck about you, when our own lives
are bloody hard enough as it is? What you are displaying
is mere pre-teen paranoia. And no, I don't care how old
you claim to be, it does nothing to change that statement.
> > I already have
> >to much crap coming in to my e-mail address as it is. Last time I left a
> >e-mail address on a newsgroup it was spamed to an almost unusable extent.
Hrm. I leave my e-mail address ALL OVER this newsgroup.
Y'know how much spam I've gotten from it? Zero. Zip.
Maybe, possibly one or two messages about 3 years ago,
when I started spreading it around, but zip since then.
Perhaps this newsgroup is blessed. Maybe the PokÈmon
newsgroup is much more rife with active spambots. . .
> Could it be because you are an ignorant little ten year old, whiny
> assed PUNK that shoots off his mouth before he engages his mind?
> I speak WITHOUT FEAR of reprisal.
That is all for certain.
> You are a moron.
He and his ilk is the main reason why most readers have bozo bins.
Plonk his ass, Bear, and be done with it.
RTM