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DavidR3986

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Mar 16, 2001, 5:39:57 PM3/16/01
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>Hi. How do you guys do it? Like when you have a little less than a half
>of
>your army left to paint, and the inspiration stops just there. Where do
>you
>get it back from? I've been in this situation for about three months with
>my
>marines, and I just can't seem to make it? Any help?

I'm working on writing my doctoral dissertation. I have to have it ready to
defend by April 1st, ready to turn in to the college by May 1st. I've written
1 chapter.

I have also:

Assembled, primed, and painted 4 Reaper CAV minis.

Painted a Crucible Bane Fiend, as well as primed and partially painted a
Principate Ogre and VOR Golem.

Finished painting the last 9 marines in my BA army, including converting two
scout sergeants to carry powerswords and one tactical sergeant to have
greenstuff-modeled termy honors and a power axe.

Assembled and primed two Razorbacks... still working on their searchlights, I
go shopping tomorrow... ;0

Converted a dreadnought to have a plasma cannon arm, a lightning claw, and for
kicks, wings.

Assembled and primed 6 Chaos Termies, a Chaos Lord, a Chaos Raptor, and a
Culexus assassin.

Assembled and primed 3 Confrontation Fusiliers, as well as two Enforcers and an
Exo-Suit Light Flamer for VOID.

Assembled a Ronin mech. Working on number 2 as soon as I finish coughing up
the alloy dust from the last one.

And started painting a Reaper mini called Marda of the North, and something
which I believe is called a Doomsday Proclaimer from the Warzone line.

So my advice would have to be: if you want to put the thrill back into
painting, have a major project vital to your future existence hanging over your
head. ;)

-David

Richard Lobinske

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Mar 16, 2001, 6:39:40 PM3/16/01
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>I'm working on writing my doctoral dissertation. I have to have it ready to
>defend by April 1st, ready to turn in to the college by May 1st. I've
>written
>1 chapter.

Nothing like procrastination...
At least I have until July 2 for first submission and August 6 for final. At
least I have the Intro about 75% complete and the Methods about 90% done.

>So my advice would have to be: if you want to put the thrill back into
>painting, have a major project vital to your future existence hanging over
>your
>head. ;)

So the logic is:
painting is stress relief and a major project generates stress, so you tend to
paint more to relieve the stress. Therefore, to get more painting done, you
need to add a major project to your life.

Scary thing is, it makes perfect sense to me......


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John M. Dunn

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Mar 15, 2001, 9:31:22 AM3/15/01
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Teemu Arho <ta...@nettilinja.fi> wrote in message
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> Hi. How do you guys do it? Like when you have a little less than a half of
> your army left to paint, and the inspiration stops just there. Where do
you
> get it back from? I've been in this situation for about three months with
my
> marines, and I just can't seem to make it? Any help?

Pick up a couple of models (like one blister) from another army and paint
'em. One of two things will happen. Either it'll get you back in the mood
to paint, and you'll be happy to go back to your marines, OR you'll really
like painting the new army and decide that you need to buy them to/instead.
The biggest danger of this method -- before you know it you've got 9 or 10
armies. (oops.)

-John


Teemu Arho

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Mar 15, 2001, 9:26:54 AM3/15/01
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ilan

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"Teemu Arho" <ta...@nettilinja.fi> wrote in message
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Don't you get inspired after coming home from a match?

ilan

Richard Lobinske

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Mar 15, 2001, 10:21:06 AM3/15/01
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Start working in smaller batches and shorter time periods. When the thought of
painting 10 figures at a 2-hour sitting can put you off, facing 2 figures for
ten minutes at a time can be less intimidating.

Jakearon

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Mar 15, 2001, 11:41:10 AM3/15/01
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A) Don't buy any more models

B) Sort your unpainted models into units. Sort thes units into things you'd
enjoy painting, things you wouldn't, and things you need to paint. Label these
A, B and C

C) Paint a B unit, then a C unit, then an A unit. Repeat untill your army is
painted.

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Jim M

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Mar 15, 2001, 11:33:53 AM3/15/01
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One step at a time my friend, one step at a time. When I have a large number
of figures to paint (like140 skinks), I break them down into smaller groups.
Then I paint one model as a prototype, this helps me invision what I want
them to look like, I will normally work in batches of 5-15 figures at a
time, depending on the degree of difficulty and amount of time I want to
spend each day. Try and break down the colors, you need to do, here is what
I am doing for the skinks first day gray for eyes, then a dot of red, after
several hours I will paint the heads and bodies Snakebite Leather, then let
them sit for a few hours, to kill time I assembled and primer the second
batch of skinks. Then I ink them brown and let them sit for 24 hours, if I
still feel like painting I may paint the eyes for the second batch. The next
day I drybrush snakebite leather on the skinks to bring out the details. By
this time I am tired of using that color so I don't bother with the second
batch of figures, instead drybrushing dries very quickly so I use bleached
bone and paint their bows. Put it away so they can dry, or work a bit more
on the second batch, possibly assemble and primer the third batch...

As you can see I very the work so it is not to boring, I also keep a few
other models around to paint on just in case skinks start to really piss me
off, if you primarily play 40K pick up a few fantasy figs (or historical),
if you play fantasy pick up a few spacemarines, they are a diversion and not
the main focus of your painting, (I have a barbarian figure that I have been
painting off and on for seven months now). the idea here is you don't care
about finishing the diversion figure, it is just something to do to keep you
painting!

--
Jim
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Asmodea Drey'Haus

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Mar 15, 2001, 12:43:52 PM3/15/01
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Boredom, or necessity are good reasons to paint. Necessity being you need to
have painted armies to play in the GW sanctioned Tourneys and win the big
prizes here.

Asmodea Drey'Haus


John L. Martin

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Mar 15, 2001, 1:59:21 PM3/15/01
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"Jim M" <j...@hat.hnjcomics.com> wrote in message
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> "Teemu Arho" <ta...@nettilinja.fi> wrote in message
> news:98qjdk$lhr$1...@tron.sci.fi...
> > Hi. How do you guys do it? Like when you have a little less than a half
of
> > your army left to paint, and the inspiration stops just there. Where do
> you
> > get it back from? I've been in this situation for about three months
with
> my
> > marines, and I just can't seem to make it? Any help?
> >
Jim has some nice ideas so I will add "me too" where needed and also comment
on where I think his advice isn't so good.

> I break them down into smaller groups.

Agreed. I needed to paint 25 Bretonnian halberdiers and broke them into
groups of 6, 6, 6, and 7.

> Then I paint one model as a prototype

Buzzzt. Wrong answer I think. You run the danger of making one model too
good and then crawling through the rest. As in, "Why the devil did I bother
painting belt buckles on these guys?" If you want to prototype, use the
first GROUP.

> Try and break down the colors

When all else fails, DRAG yourself to the painting table, even if for only
15 minutes. I had some mounted squires to paint and I finally ended up
saying. OK, I'm only going to paint the reigns after that I quit. Then
again the next day...OK, I'm only going to paint the hands and faces. After
a few days they start getting near done and the excitement to get it
finished will hopefully carry you through.

> I also keep a few
> other models around to paint on just in case skinks start to really piss
me
> off, if you primarily play 40K pick up a few fantasy figs (or historical),
> if you play fantasy pick up a few spacemarines, they are a diversion and
not
> the main focus of your painting,

I agree but "diversion" should still be useful. For example, I have some
Howling Banshees on the table as well as War of the Roses figures. They are
to be added to my armies, eventually, and break up the painting of
Bretonnians.

--
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Abaddon."
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RT Maitreya

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Mar 15, 2001, 5:41:37 PM3/15/01
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Jakearon wrote:

> A) Don't buy any more models

AAAAaaah!

But, the new Tyranid warriors are so. . . nice!

RTM

Jim M

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"John L. Martin" <jlma...@excel.spamblock.net> wrote in message
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> "Jim M" <j...@hat.hnjcomics.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Jim has some nice ideas so I will add "me too" where needed and also
comment
> on where I think his advice isn't so good.
>
Thanks I have thought of a few things more to add as well...

> > I break them down into smaller groups.
> Agreed. I needed to paint 25 Bretonnian halberdiers and broke them into
> groups of 6, 6, 6, and 7.
>
> > Then I paint one model as a prototype
> Buzzzt. Wrong answer I think. You run the danger of making one model too
> good and then crawling through the rest. As in, "Why the devil did I
bother
> painting belt buckles on these guys?" If you want to prototype, use the
> first GROUP.

Hmmm I can see where this might not work for some people, let me expound a
bit, When I paint a prototype figure, I take notes on exactly what I do,
that way, if I end up taking a long break I can refer to the notes to set me
straight. In addition if I want to get the same affect years later, I can
still have my notes. This is not necessary for everyone, but since I also
paint armies for money, I find it useful. The last reason I do a prototype
is to show other people what the finished models will look like. I tend to
forget that not everyone does the same things I do...

It is good advice for the average painter (not quality here guys but people
that paint only what they need) to use their first BATCH as a prototype,
remember that it is easier to ADD a detail then to remove it!

> > Try and break down the colors
> When all else fails, DRAG yourself to the painting table, even if for only
> 15 minutes. I had some mounted squires to paint and I finally ended up
> saying. OK, I'm only going to paint the reigns after that I quit. Then
> again the next day...OK, I'm only going to paint the hands and faces.
After
> a few days they start getting near done and the excitement to get it
> finished will hopefully carry you through.
>

Let your imagination roam while painting, Wiloe painting Bretonnians imagine
them going on a holy quest as you paint them, this will sometimes take your
mind off the drudgery!

> > I also keep a few
> > other models around to paint on just in case skinks start to really piss
> me
> > off, if you primarily play 40K pick up a few fantasy figs (or
historical),
> > if you play fantasy pick up a few spacemarines, they are a diversion and
> not
> > the main focus of your painting,
> I agree but "diversion" should still be useful. For example, I have some
> Howling Banshees on the table as well as War of the Roses figures. They
are
> to be added to my armies, eventually, and break up the painting of
> Bretonnians.
>

Being a D&D DM, I ALWAYS have other things to paint and can use damn near
anything!

Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:05:05 PM3/15/01
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:37:45 -0600, "ilan" <ibe...@bindview.com>
wrote:

I get uninspired with Warhammer after just being in the same room with
the local Warhammer munchkins.... I'd hate to see what would happen if
I actually played against some of them... I'd probably burn my
models...

Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire

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Mar 15, 2001, 8:02:09 PM3/15/01
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:26:54 +0200, "Teemu Arho" <ta...@nettilinja.fi>
wrote:

It's tough sometimes... I haven't had the time or the inclination to
get jack and/or shit done since this semester started (I think it has
something to do with me knowing more about calculus than my calculus
teacher... and I don't know shit about calculus)...

try to break up the process.. I work on multiple armies at one time
when I paint... like if i had the time right now (SPRING BREAK!!!!!)
I'd be working on Ultramarines, Imperial Guard, Fantasy Orcs and Chaos
Marines.. it keeps things varied....

I've found that occasionally GW does put a helpful article in the
catalog (WD) and in one painting article they mention painting a
character/monster/war machine and then painting a regiment and going
back and forth....(though if I don't find enough Dark Elf Executioners
to finish that unit.. there's little reason for me to paint the army)

another idea would be to schedule yourself... like "today i'm going to
do the chain mail on this regiment of Dark Elves" and "tomorrow, I'll
do their belts, pouches and boots" I think I might start doing that...
finding the time is a real bitch though right now when I have an hour
commute (1 way) back and forth from college, an incompetant Calculus
teacher and a chemistry teacher that's a raving chinese bitch....

RT Maitreya

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"Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire" wrote:

>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:31:22 -0500, "John M. Dunn" <jm...@po.cwru.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >- before you know it you've got 9 or 10 armies. (oops.)
> >
>
> only 9 or 10?
>
> lightweight....

Per system, of course.

-SM, DE, IG, 3 CM, Orks, Tyrs, Sqts
-Emp, Orc, Bret, Beastm, Lizd, CWar, Daem, Skav, Fimir, Haflg

Yup, that's about right.

RTM

Jim M

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"Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire" <twil...@qis.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:26:54 +0200, "Teemu Arho" <ta...@nettilinja.fi>

<snip>


>I think I might start doing that...
> finding the time is a real bitch though right now when I have an hour
> commute (1 way) back and forth from college, an incompetant Calculus
> teacher and a chemistry teacher that's a raving chinese bitch....
>

Ouch that's a bitch of a commute, at least it's nice to know that other
things in college don't change (the instructors)..
.--


Jim
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Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:31:22 -0500, "John M. Dunn" <jm...@po.cwru.edu>
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>- before you know it you've got 9 or 10 armies. (oops.)
>

only 9 or 10?

lightweight....

RT Maitreya

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Jim M wrote:

> > I've got three figs in my case that are half
> > done from the summer.

> I think I have you beat, I found an old figure the other day that I had
> started to paint before I went to Germany, in 1978! I thought it was lost
> forever...

Ah, but you've painted stuff since then. . .

RTM
-I win-

Jim M

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Mar 16, 2001, 4:04:41 AM3/16/01
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"RT Maitreya" <hy...@speakeasy.org> wrote in message
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Well true, but I haven't painted any Napoleonic mini's since then and that
was after all what it was. Fact is I haven't painted any historical stuff
in so long it isn't funny, I'm thinking about getting DBM just to try and
get back into ancients but I have not yet made up my mind...

Kick2kil

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Mar 16, 2001, 4:06:59 AM3/16/01
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Like when you have a little less than a half of
> your army left to paint, and the inspiration stops just there. Where do
you
> get it back from?

Firstly, I never do more than 5-10 figs at a time. When the enthusiasm
drops off, I try really hard to polish off the few I've got on the table,
then start a terrain piece. Making terrain is much simpler than painting
minis and helps relieve the burn-out. The toughest thing for me is trying
to return to complete some half-painted figs I started 6 weeks ago that I'm
sick of looking at.
-Kick2kil


RT Maitreya

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Mar 16, 2001, 2:54:32 AM3/16/01
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Kick2kil wrote:

> minis and helps relieve the burn-out. The toughest thing for me is trying
> to return to complete some half-painted figs I started 6 weeks ago that I'm
> sick of looking at.

I've got three figs in my case that are half
done from the summer.

RTM

Jim M

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Mar 16, 2001, 3:17:07 AM3/16/01
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"RT Maitreya" <hy...@speakeasy.org> wrote in message
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I think I have you beat, I found an old figure the other day that I had


started to paint before I went to Germany, in 1978! I thought it was lost
forever...

--

Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:01:54 -0800, RT Maitreya <hy...@speakeasy.org>
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Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Emporer's Children, Death guard, Black
Legion, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Tyranids, Saim Hann Eldar,
Imperial Guard, Human Pirates, Death Skull Orks, Goff Orks, Ork
Freebooterz, Red Corsairs

Khorne Daemons, Tzeentch Daemons, Nurgle Daemons, Khorne Warriors,
Tzeentch Warriors, Undead (old), Vampires, Beastmen, Greenskins, Dark
Elves (would do almost anything for 10 more Executioners), High Elves.


RT Maitreya

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"Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire" wrote:

> Human Pirates, Undead (old), Vampires,

Ooops. I forgot about these as well.

RTM

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Teemu Arho (ta...@nettilinja.fi) wrote:
: Hi. How do you guys do it? Like when you have a little less than a half of

: your army left to paint, and the inspiration stops just there. Where do you
: get it back from? I've been in this situation for about three months with my
: marines, and I just can't seem to make it? Any help?
:
This is one of the big pluses of having a huge mini backlog in my painting
queue. When I get bored painting one type of figure I just put them away
and pull out something else for a while. My last batch of khornate chaos
marines sat on my painting desk for months with me tired of painting the
damn things. I recently replaced those minis with all the minis I'm
adding to my undead army and I've been painting like crazy again. Move on
to something else and eventually when you get tired of painting the next
thing in line, you'll find that the idea of painting marines again will
make you happy again.

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Mar 16, 2001, 11:03:43 AM3/16/01
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Blackheart, Heathen Extraordinaire (twil...@qis.net) wrote:
:
: Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Emporer's Children, Death guard, Black

: Legion, World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Tyranids, Saim Hann Eldar,
: Imperial Guard, Human Pirates, Death Skull Orks, Goff Orks, Ork
: Freebooterz, Red Corsairs
:
: Khorne Daemons, Tzeentch Daemons, Nurgle Daemons, Khorne Warriors,
: Tzeentch Warriors, Undead (old), Vampires, Beastmen, Greenskins, Dark
: Elves (would do almost anything for 10 more Executioners), High Elves.
:
Man I feel so insignificant...I only have:

Khorne chaos marines, nurgle chaos marines, imperial guard, orks,
genestealer/chaos cult, Dark eldar

High elves, undead, orcs & gobbos and lizardmen (don't play as much
warhammer as 40k).

I used to have a chaos army for warhammer, but stopped playing with it
when they switched to separating out the warriors and the beastmen. Now
most of the parts of that have either been converted or are waiting to be
converted for inclusion in my chaos marine armies or the genestealer/chaos
cult forces. Makes them more fun that way, because I get to convert them
heavily in the process. Mostly adding warriors to the chaos marines and
beastmen to my cult.

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Teemu Arho

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Thanks for all the help, guys. Your suggested methods really worked! I
finally managed to finish my termie squad that I had last even touched six
months ago.

Jim M

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"Teemu Arho" <ta...@nettilinja.fi> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the help, guys. Your suggested methods really worked! I
> finally managed to finish my termie squad that I had last even touched six
> months ago.
>
GOOD JOB! Now do another...
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