Looking for some painting help
Moxie
about a dozen figures under my belt I'd like to throw some questions out
here on a few things I'd like to improve on.
First of all, I'm using the Game Workshop Citadel paint with pretty decent
brushes from the craft store. I mostly just thin with water and I haven't
tried inks yet.
What I seem to be able to do well:
- Dry brushing metal, guns, swords, etc. Always comes out looking cool.
- Armor. Any vibrant color drybrushed over black looks pretty cool. Darker
colors (deep reds and purples) generally don't show up too well.
What I seem to suck at:
- Emblems. Like the eagle on the chest of the space marines or applying
paint to a skull emblem or eye sockets. Generally just looks like a glob of
paint or the paint doesn't cover enough of the black undercoat.
- Flesh. I've tried a few things. Painting base with tanned flesh color
then washing with very thin black. Adding a white/flesh color highlight at
the end. Mostly looks like dirty flesh when I'm done. How do I get cool
looking clean flesh like the nicely shaded flesh in this pic:
http://www.agisn.de/assets/images/autogen/a_SoBgroup_sm.jpg
- Hair. Black hair comes out pretty good with just a little grey dryburshed
highlights. Blonde I've tried yellow base coat with tan/brown dry brush
with white/tan highlights. Comes out looking pretty crappy. And I haven't
tried any other colo hair yet. Any tips.
Thanks for your help.
John Hwang
FWIW, the correct tag here is [Paint], as added.
>I'm just getting started with Warhammer 40k. I've started painting and with
>about a dozen figures under my belt I'd like to throw some questions out
>here on a few things I'd like to improve on.
Have you read my writeup on RGMW.org? It's a reasonable starting place.
>First of all, I'm using the Game Workshop Citadel paint with pretty decent
>brushes from the craft store. I mostly just thin with water and I haven't
>tried inks yet.
OK, so far.
>What I seem to be able to do well:
>- Dry brushing metal, guns, swords, etc. Always comes out looking cool.
>- Armor. Any vibrant color drybrushed over black looks pretty cool. Darker
>colors (deep reds and purples) generally don't show up too well.
Too much dependance upon drybrusing, par for the GW style. Basecoat first in a
slightly darker shade, and you'll get much better results.
>What I seem to suck at:
>- Emblems. Like the eagle on the chest of the space marines or applying
>paint to a skull emblem or eye sockets. Generally just looks like a glob of
>paint or the paint doesn't cover enough of the black undercoat.
Basecoat in a slightly darker shade, then drybrush/highlight. Or wash with
very thin, dark paint to pick up the detailing. Or both.
Personally, I basecoat eagles in grey, wash in thin black, drybrush highlight
in white. I undercoat skulls in brown, basecoat in bone, wash in thin brown,
drybrush highlight in bone, then white.
>- Flesh. I've tried a few things. Painting base with tanned flesh color
>then washing with very thin black.
Too dark of a wash. Use a medium brown. Or GW "flesh" wash.
>Adding a white/flesh color highlight at
>the end. Mostly looks like dirty flesh when I'm done. How do I get cool
>looking clean flesh like the nicely shaded flesh in this pic:
>http://www.agisn.de/assets/images/autogen/a_SoBgroup_sm.jpg
OK, that's *totally* different proposition. I'll take a guess: undercoat dark
flesh, flesh wash, progressive thinning layering of dark flesh, medium flesh,
light flesh, pale flesh, (ultra-fine) white.
>- Hair. Black hair comes out pretty good with just a little grey dryburshed
>highlights. Blonde I've tried yellow base coat with tan/brown dry brush
>with white/tan highlights. Comes out looking pretty crappy. And I haven't
>tried any other colo hair yet. Any tips.
Sorry. I don't do hair very well. Usually, I'll do black hair as basecoat
navy, heavy black wash, dark brown andd grey highlights.
I don't have any blondes in my armies.
I do plan to work on my redheads, tho, for my Banshees.
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George Worroll
>What I seem to suck at:
>- Emblems. Like the eagle on the chest of the space marines or applying
>paint to a skull emblem or eye sockets. Generally just looks like a glob of
>paint or the paint doesn't cover enough of the black undercoat.
If painting white eagles on black armor, heres what I do. First, I
paint the eagle grey. then I drybrush white. Then, a little black
ink to get the shading good, then touch up the drybrushing. Comes out
quite well.
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Jon Hall
"John Hwang" <johnhw...@cs.com.no.com> wrote in message
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> "Moxie" do...@spam.com wrote:
> >- Hair. Black hair comes out pretty good with just a little grey
dryburshed
> >highlights. Blonde I've tried yellow base coat with tan/brown dry brush
> >with white/tan highlights. Comes out looking pretty crappy. And I
haven't
> >tried any other colo hair yet. Any tips.
>
> Sorry. I don't do hair very well. Usually, I'll do black hair as
basecoat
> navy, heavy black wash, dark brown andd grey highlights.
I've had good results using the following method for blond hair: basecoat
Bubonic Brown; drybrush Bleached Bone. If you want to brighten it up a
little bit, spot highlight with white.
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Andy O'Neill
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> I'm just getting started with Warhammer 40k.
Commiserations, better luck on next choice of game.
>I've started painting and with
> about a dozen figures under my belt I'd like to throw some questions out
> here on a few things I'd like to improve on.
>
> First of all, I'm using the Game Workshop Citadel paint with pretty decent
> brushes from the craft store. I mostly just thin with water and I haven't
> tried inks yet.
>
> What I seem to be able to do well:
> - Dry brushing metal, guns, swords, etc. Always comes out looking cool.
> - Armor. Any vibrant color drybrushed over black looks pretty cool.
Darker
> colors (deep reds and purples) generally don't show up too well.
>
> What I seem to suck at:
> - Emblems. Like the eagle on the chest of the space marines or applying
> paint to a skull emblem or eye sockets. Generally just looks like a glob
of
> paint or the paint doesn't cover enough of the black undercoat.
Don't paint straight onto black undercoat unless you want dark and dingy.
Damp brush white first.
Google will have a definition of damp brushing and my site describes the
technique a bit more.
It's called pre-shading if you want to search more modelling posts and
newsgroups.
>- Flesh. I've tried a few things. Painting base with tanned flesh color
> then washing with very thin black. Adding a white/flesh color highlight
at
> the end. Mostly looks like dirty flesh when I'm done.
Dark flesh first, then paint in brown/red brown lo-lights then pale flesh
hi-lights.
You want to apply the lo-lights as a thin layering effect.
I mix johnsons klear ( acrylic floor varnish ) with water and old GW (cote
d'arms now ) flesh ink.
Apply thinly into the creases etc.
You could give leather brown acrylic paint a twirl as it's much the same.
Ink is easier to work with to get a subtle effect though.
>HowI get cool
> looking clean flesh like the nicely shaded flesh in this pic:
> http://www.agisn.de/assets/images/autogen/a_SoBgroup_sm.jpg
Can't make the teeny picture out.
> - Hair. Black hair comes out pretty good with just a little grey
dryburshed
> highlights. Blonde I've tried yellow base coat with tan/brown dry brush
> with white/tan highlights. Comes out looking pretty crappy. And I haven't
> tried any other colo hair yet. Any tips.
Have you ever seen anyone actually had yellow hair?
Sand, not yellow.
Wash over with the flesh ink mix as above.
Highlight with fawn + white + sand mix dry brushed on sparingly.
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