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Octavulg
supplying most of the forces for my side, and am allied with a small Tau
force (1 Hammerhead, a few Fire Warriors, a Battlesuit and some Kroot,
IIRC). My list was looking something like this, but I was hoping for a
bit of advice and some changes.
Deep Strike and Infiltrate is allowed, board is approx eight by six with
a river in the middle and a bridge across that. Five objectives total
(the bridge is one). A goodly amount of cover. I am facing a
combination of Imperial Guard and Dark Angels. The DA have a fair
number of Landspeeders with Assault Cannons and a buncha heavy weapons
and the Guard have five Russes (four normal, one Demolisher).
To face this...I have a whole lotta troops. Ulp.
Anyway, since I have far too many HQ units for my own good, I was going
to deploy multiple detachments. This has the bonus of letting me use
Kharn and the Khornates.
Anyway:
List 1:
HQ
Daemon Prince Nistilian the Mourner = 201
Chaos Lord - 60
Bionics - 5
Daemonic Aura - 15
Daemonic Essence - 15
Daemonic Resilience - 10
Daemonic Speed - 15
Daemonic Stature - 15
Daemonic Visage - 5
Furious Charge - 15
Dark Blade - 25
Frag Grenades - 1
Teleport Homer - 5
Infiltrate - 15
Anastasius the Sorceror = 82
Sorceror - 10
Bolt Pistol - 1
Power Weapon - 15
Frag Grenades - 1
Doombolt - 15
Warp Focus - 10
Daemonic Aura - 15
Infiltrate - 15
ELITES
Venomblade Squad (AC Maximilian)(6) = 350
6x Chosen - 6x17=102
Terminator - 6x19=114
2x Power Fist - 2x5=10
Chainfist - 8
Combi-Melta - 10
Reaper Autocannon - 20
Heavy Flamer - 15
Champion - 29
Sorceror - 5
Doombolt - 15
Bionics - 5
Daemonic Visage - 2
Mass Furious Charge - 5x3=15
Contagion Squad (8) = 212
8x Chaos Space Marine - 8*14=112
8x Mark of Nurgle - 8*5=40
Aspiring Champion - 13
Plague Sword - 15
Mass Infiltrate - 8*3=24
Mass Frag Grenades - 8*1=8
Pestilence Squad (9) = 235
9x Chaos Space Marine - 9*14=126
9x Mark of Nurgle - 9*5=45
Aspiring Champion - 13
Power Fist - 15
Mass Infiltrate - 9*3=27
Mass Frag Grenades - 9*1=9
TROOPS
Firesword Squad (AC Victor) (5) = 95
5x Chaos Space Marine - 5x14=70
1x Missile Launcher - 10
Mass Infiltrate - 5x3=15
Deathhawk Squad (AC Janos) (10) (BPCCW)=247
10x Chaos Space Marine - 10x14=140
Aspiring Champion - 13
Daemonic Visage - 2
Plasma Pistol - 10
Power Weapon - 10
Teleport Homer - 5
Daemonic Visage - 2
Mass Furious Charge - 3x10=30
Mass Infiltrate - 10x3=30
Mass Frag Grenades - 1x10=10
Crushfist Squad (AC Frederik) (9) (BPCCW)= 229
9x Chaos Space Marine - 9x14=126
Plasma Gun - 10
Aspiring Champion - 13
Power Fist - 15
Teleport Homer - 5
Daemonic Visage - 2
Mass Furious Charge - 3x9=27
Mass Infiltrate - 9x3=27
Mass Frag Grenades - 1x9=9
HEAVY SUPPORT
Icesnake Squad (AC Ragnar) (5)= 115
5x Chaos Space Marine - 5x14=70
3x Heavy Bolter - 3x15=45
List 2:
HQ
Kharn the Betrayer = 180
TROOPS
Rend Squad (9) = 192
9x Chaos Space Marine - 9x14=
Mark of Khorne - 9x5=45
Mass Chainaxes - 9
Mass Furious Charge - 9x3=27
Mass Frag Grenades - 9x1=9
Maim Squad (9) = 192
9x Chaos Space Marine - 9x14=
Mark of Khorne - 9x5=45
Mass Chainaxes - 9
Mass Furious Charge - 9x3=27
Mass Frag Grenades - 9x1=9
Blackhand Squad (9) = 192
9x Chaos Space Marine - 9x14=
Mark of Khorne - 9x5=45
Mass Chainaxes - 9
Mass Furious Charge - 9x3=27
Mass Frag Grenades - 9x1=9
List 3:
HQ
Lord Vassilius= 132 (with Alpha Squad)
Chaos Lord - 60
Bolt Pistol - 1
Power Weapon - 15
Bionics - 5
Frag Grenades - 1
Teleport Homer - 5
Daemonic Aura - 15
Furious Charge - 15
Infiltrate - 15
Demagogue Magnus the Blind = 118 (with Beta Squad) (Deep Striking)
Chaos Lieutenant - 45
Sorceror - 10
Doombolt - 15
Bionics - 5
Combi-Bolter - 3
Terminator Armour - 25
Furious Charge - 15
ELITES
Alpha Squad (7 [3w/BPCCW]) = 119+30+30+10+7+21+21=238
7x Chosen - 7x17=119
3x Aspiring Champion - 3x10=30
3x Power Sword - 3x10=30
Daemonic Mutation - 10
Mass Frag Grenades - 7
Mass Furious Charge - 7x3=21
Land Raider - 258
-Extra Armor - 5
-Smoke Launchers - 3
Beta Squad (7) = 119+133+25+5+30+21=333
7x Chosen - 7x17=119
Terminator - 7x19=133
Power Fist - 5x5=25
Lightning Claw - 5
Heavy Flamer - 2x15=30
Mass Furious Charge - 7x3=21
TROOPS
Zeta Tactical-II (8)=170
8x Chaos Space Marine - 8x14=112
Rhino w/ EA and Smoke - 58
Eta Tactical-II (8)=170
8x Chaos Space Marine - 8x14=112
Rhino w/ EA and Smoke - 58
HEAVY SUPPORT
Alpha Land Raider = 250+5+3=258
Extra Armour - 5
Smoke Launchers - 3
Gamma Dreadnaught = 75+50+12+5+3=145
Twin-Linked Lascannon - 50
Heavy Flamer - 12
Extra Armour - 5
Smoke Launchers - 3
Theta Devastator = 70+70+40+15=195
5x Chaos Space Marine - 5x14=70
2x Lascannon - 70
2x Missile Launcher - 40
Mass Infiltrate - 5x3=15
List 4:
Demagogue Xerxius the Lion = 249
Chaos Lieutenant - 45
Bolt Pistol - 1
Bionics - 5
Frag Grenades - 1
Power Weapon - 15
Teleport Homer - 5
Daemonic Aura - 15
Furious Charge - 15
Infiltrate - 15
TROOPS
Delta Tactical-I (8)=112+13+10+5+24+8=254
8x Chaos Space Marine - 8x14=112
Aspiring Champion - 13
Power Weapon - 10
Teleport Homer - 5
Mass Furious Charge - 3x8=24
Mass Frag Grenades - 8x1=8
Rhino w/ EA and Smoke - 58
Epsilon Tactical-I (8)=112+6+13+10+5+24+24+8=260
8x Chaos Space Marine - 8x14=112
Flamer - 6
Aspiring Champion - 13
Power Fist - 15
Teleport Homer - 5
Mass Furious Charge - 3x8=24
Mass Frag Grenades - 8x1=8
Rhino w/ EA and Smoke - 58
HEAVY SUPPORT
Iota Devastator = 70+30+40+15=155
5x Chaos Space Marine - 5x14=70
2x Heavy Bolter - 30
2x Missile Launcher - 40
Mass Infiltrate - 5x3=15
Keep in mind that they all work together, and that points are pretty
much no object.
Any advice as to what would work better would be welcome. We'll be
using the 4e rules, since they're due out by the time the battle is to
be played.
I think it may be a mess. :)
Octavulg
estarriol
"Octavulg" <octa...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:40BC7732...@netscape.net...
> Right....got a very large battle coming up in a week or two. I am
> supplying most of the forces for my side, and am allied with a small Tau
> force (1 Hammerhead, a few Fire Warriors, a Battlesuit and some Kroot,
> IIRC). My list was looking something like this, but I was hoping for a
> bit of advice and some changes.
>
> Deep Strike and Infiltrate is allowed, board is approx eight by six with
> a river in the middle and a bridge across that. Five objectives total
> (the bridge is one). A goodly amount of cover. I am facing a
> combination of Imperial Guard and Dark Angels. The DA have a fair
> number of Landspeeders with Assault Cannons and a buncha heavy weapons
> and the Guard have five Russes (four normal, one Demolisher).
>
> To face this...I have a whole lotta troops. Ulp.
>
>
> Octavulg
>
Will the river be crossable other than at the bridge, or only by skimmers?
If the answer is yes, cool, if its no your screwed, too many hth guys
tramping across a lot of fire power and choke point, even with deep strike
etc to alleviate this, Assult troops with jump packs would be your friend in
that case. otherwise go totally shooty and make him cross the bridge..
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estarriol
Octavulg
I am indeed screwed...since the bridge was in the middle of no man's
land, the idea was to infiltrate some units (mostly the ones with heavy
weapons) on to the other side so my other forces could try and troop
across.
Since my kind (shyeah right) opponent offered to let me proxy DE
warriors as Raptors, it is time for some jumpy action!
Octavulg
estarriol
his Russ's across if he wants either of your objectives.....
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estarriol
Octavulg
Since the deployment zone is big enough, I hope to infiltrate enough of
my army close to the bridge that I can swarm across it and into close
combat or cover on the other side (or just infiltrate into the cover on
the other side at the beginning). Then just pot his vehicles until they
die.
Wandered out looking for proxy Rhinos. Was unlucky (though Mega Blocks
makes cool Bradleys for 14 bucks CA. No, really). Infiltration is
looking more and more nice.
Octavulg
Qrab
Octavulg <octa...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Anyway:
>
> List 1:
>
> HQ
> Daemon Prince Nistilian the Mourner = 201
> Chaos Lord - 60
> Bionics - 5
> Daemonic Aura - 15
> Daemonic Essence - 15
> Daemonic Resilience - 10
> Daemonic Speed - 15
> Daemonic Stature - 15
> Daemonic Visage - 5
> Furious Charge - 15
> Dark Blade - 25
> Frag Grenades - 1
> Teleport Homer - 5
> Infiltrate - 15
Can this guy even have Frag and/or Teleport Homer if he's got Daemonic
Stature? I'd look it up myself, but I'm not going to touch my 40K books
until 4th ed. is out.
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Be seeing you-
Qrab
smithdoerr
"Qrab" <qr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Daemonic Stature limits what weapons he can have but it doesn't say anything
about wargear.
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-smithdoerr
Octavulg
Technically, I could even give him Terminator Armour. It would be odd
as anything, and make no sense, but I *could*.
Octavulg
smithdoerr
> > Daemonic Stature limits what weapons he can have but it doesn't say
anything
> > about wargear.
>
> Technically, I could even give him Terminator Armour. It would be odd
> as anything, and make no sense, but I *could*.
Actually you can't since Daemonic Stature doesn't have a * next to it. But
it would make an interesting conversion if you could.
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-smithdoerr