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[40k] Which Battleforce is the best bang for the buck?

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Scoot

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Apr 16, 2007, 11:37:40 PM4/16/07
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With an anniversary coming up, I am tempted to ask (probably followed
by a divorce) for another army. I was wondering what box was the best
bang for the buck and pointwise playable without too many addons. I am
tapped out from Nids, Necron and Marines. And I am wondering what else
might be good... (thinking humans, or order, but...)

TriOpticon

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Apr 17, 2007, 9:21:49 AM4/17/07
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> I am tapped out from Nids, Necron and Marines. And I am wondering what else
You can never be tapped out on Tyranids!

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Seamus

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Apr 17, 2007, 10:17:33 AM4/17/07
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On Apr 17, 9:21 am, TriOpticon <TriOpticon-at-gmaildot...@nospam.com>
wrote:

The *entire point* of 'Nids is that you can NEVER have "too many"
'Nids. They are a damned swarm for a reason.

The same could be said of Orks, as well.

Borscope

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Apr 17, 2007, 10:40:20 AM4/17/07
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Good lord, I think that's my problem! I play horde armies that don't
seem like horde armies...IG, VC, Empire, DoW. Perhas if I switched
over to Chaos I'd at least get my kitchen back.

Seamus

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Apr 17, 2007, 10:48:55 AM4/17/07
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In a moment of Divine Clarity, Borscope looked up and bestowed the
following unto RGMW:

> Good lord, I think that's my problem! I play horde armies that don't

> seem like horde armies...IG, VC, Empire, DoW. Perhaps if I switched


> over to Chaos I'd at least get my kitchen back.

Hmm... So you have to decide between your kitchen, or your soul?

Tough choice.

/BEER FOR THE BEER GOD!

relkins

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Apr 17, 2007, 11:31:02 AM4/17/07
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"Seamus" <fomori...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sort of a related question here. If someone wanted to field a competitive,
balanced 'Nid army (Say...1500 points or so), how much money would you
estimate they'd end up paying (US$)? And how would suggest they purchase it,
with regards to combinations of the battleforce box, individual unit boxes
and blisters?

drgrbek


Desert Lurker

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Apr 17, 2007, 5:50:47 PM4/17/07
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On Apr 17, 11:31 am, "relkins" <relk...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> "Seamus" <fomorianw...@gmail.com> wrote in message

the 'Nid Army box plus the Nid Battleforce box is what I wanted to do,
back in the day. It got you a Tyrant a 'Fex and plenty of warriors and
smaller bugs. IIRC.

Joe

relkins

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Apr 17, 2007, 6:01:07 PM4/17/07
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"Desert Lurker" <ironm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do they make Nid army boxes these days? I've only ever seen SM, CSM and Tau
army boxes on the shelves and also the limited run army boxes for new
releases, like the DA army box w/ ltd ed. company master and libby.

drgrbek


TriOpticon

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Apr 17, 2007, 6:29:27 PM4/17/07
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> Do they make Nid army boxes these days? I've only ever seen SM, CSM
They did make an Army box which included the codex. These days they just
have a battleforce ($90) without the codex.
The army box had:
Model Qty
Hive Tyrant 1
Zoanthrope 1
TermaGaunts 16
Hormagaunts 16
Ripper Swarms 4
Tyranid Warriors 6
Genestealers 8
Raveners 3
Lictor 1

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Scoot

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Apr 17, 2007, 10:26:02 PM4/17/07
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Yah I lucked out and got a nid army box and a 3rd ed battleforce... so
I got alot of stuff, well enough for a 2500 point game or more... I
could use a carnifex (who can't) but I a new army path might give me
variety.

I thought of chaos, but berserkers and a rhino just doesn't seem
appealing. Orks, perhaps, but I had enough fear painting 150 nids, to
do the same with orks will lose my sanity...

I thought of eldar, but again figure the box does not come with enough
to be playable at that...

I may just need to wait for a GW auction in june to pick a side...

Phil Bowles

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Apr 18, 2007, 12:22:32 AM4/18/07
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Tau probably have the best Battleforce both in terms of monetary
savings and the consistency of its contents - a full FW squad with
transport, a Battlesuit who can double as an HQ unit and a Stealth
trio (oh, and Kroot and Drones). It's also great for doubling up -
unlike some Battleforces, everything here save the Kroot is something
that works well in duplicates: extra FWs, a full-size Stealth unit (or
two smaller ones) and extra Crisis. The Megaforce is not a bad deal at
all either - in fact one Battleforce and one Megaforce complement each
other nicely and make a pretty comprehensive army. All you'd likely
need to add are extra FWs and another Hammerhead.

Phil

Michael Magliocca

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Apr 19, 2007, 7:53:05 PM4/19/07
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Here is the summary I made for myself:

Chaos Space Marines

Chaos Marines Megaforce ($187.50) $140
12 Chaos Space Marines $37.50
8 Khorne Berzerkers $20
3 Chaos Space Marine Bikers $45
Chaos Rhino $30
Chaos Defiler $55

Chaos Marines Battleforce ($130) $90
Chaos Space Marine Squad $25
3 Chaos Bikes $45
Khorne Berzerker Squad $30
Chaos Rhino $30

Dark Eldar

Dark Eldar Battleforce ($147.50) $90
20 Warriors $37.50
5 Reaver Jetbikes $75
Raider $35

Eldar

Eldar Boxed Army ($272) $245
Autarch $15
Wraithlord (Plastic) $40
Falcon Grav Tank $40
9 Dire Avengers + Exarch $30
5 Fire Dragons + Exarch $30
5 Howling Banshees+ Exarch $30
Vyper $30
10 Guardians $22
Grav Platform $15
Eldar Codex $20

Eldar Battleforce ($117.50) $90
8 Guardians $17.50
5 Dire Avengers $15
Wave Serpent $40
Warwalker (Plastic) $30
Heavy Weapons Platform $15

Imperial Guard

Imperial Guard Battleforce ($110) $90
20 Cadian Shock Troops $35
3 Cadian Hvy Wpn Teams $35
Leman Russ Tank Mk. 2 $40

Vostroyan Platoon $90
28 Vostroyans $~130
(An Officer, Medic, Vox-Caster, Plasma Gunner, Flamer, Las Cannon team,
Mortar team, Grenade Launcher, and casualty models)

Catachan Battleforce ($155) $90
20 Catachan Jungle Fighters $35
Command squad (5 models) $35
3 Catachan Hvy Wpn Squads $35
2 Catachan Sentinels $50

Necrons

Necron Battleforce ($>141.67) $90
28 Necron Warriors $81.67
7 Scarab Swarm Bases $0(Included with Warriors)
3 Necron Destroyers $60

Orks

Ork Battleforce ($160) $90
Ork Boyz Mob $35
5 Ork Warbikes $75
Ork Wartrukk $25
Ork Warbuggy $25

Space Marines

Space Marine Megaforce ($265) $175
Commander $15
five man Command squad $35
Ten man Tactical squad $35
Five man Combat squad $20
Razorback transport $35
Five man Scout squad $20
Five man Assault Squad $25
Predator tank $40
Space Marine Dreadnought $40

Space Marine Battleforce ($130) $90
10-man tactical squad $35
Rhino transport $30
5-man combat squad $20
5 Space Marine Scouts $20
5-man Assault Squad $25

Dark Angels Army Box ($271) $210
Codex: Dark Angels $20
DA Company Master $12
Librarian in Power Armor $12
Devastator Squad (5) $35
Assault Terminator Squad (5) $50
Scout Squad (5) $20
Tactical Squad (10) $35
2 DA Veteran Upgrade Sprue $15?
Combat Squad (5) $20
Predator Destructor Tank $40
Ravenwing Sprue $??
2 Tactical Upgrade Sprues $12

Dark Angels Battleforce ($145) $90
DA Command Squad (5) $35
Combat Squad (5) $20
Devastator Squad (5) $35
Scouts w/ Sniper Rifles (5) $25
Rhino Transport $30

Ravenwing Battleforce ($145) $90
6 Ravenwing Bikes $70
Ravenwing Attack Bike $25
Ravenwing Land Speeder $30

Space Wolves Battleforce ($145) $90
10 Grey Hunters $35
10 Blood Claws $35
3 Space Marine Bikes $45
Space Marine Rhino $30

Tau

Tau Megaforce ($278.33) $175
2 Tau Crisis Suits $40
3 Tau Stealth Suits + Drone $20
20 Fire Warriors $58.33
6 Gun Drones $10
3 Piranhas $75
1 Devilfish APC $35
1 Hammerhead Gunship $40

Tau Battleforce ($146.25) $90
Tau Crisis XV8 Battlesuit $20
1 Devilfish APC $35
3 Tau Stealth Suits + Drone $20
6 Gun Drones (2 from FW) $10
12 Fire Warriors(2 Drones) $35
12 Kroot Carnivores $26.25

Tyranids

Tyranid Battleforce ($145) $90
3 Tyranid Warriors $35
8 Hormagaunts $17.50
8 Termagants $17.50
8 Genestealers $30
1 Carnifex $45

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Why Settle For A Lesser Evil?

Scoot

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Apr 19, 2007, 10:31:34 PM4/19/07
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:53:05 -0400, Michael Magliocca
<cth...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

>
>Here is the summary I made for myself:
>

>Dark Eldar Battleforce ($147.50) $90

>Imperial Guard Battleforce ($110) $90

>Catachan Battleforce ($155) $90


>Necron Battleforce ($>141.67) $90

>Ork Battleforce ($160) $90


>Dark Angels Battleforce ($145) $90

>Space Wolves Battleforce ($145) $90

>Tau Battleforce ($146.25) $90
>Tyranid Battleforce ($145) $90

So the Ork seems the best savings, Followed by Catachan, Necron, Nids
and Assorted marine list.

Sadly I was tempted by the Imperials for the Russ, but since it isn't
much of the savings, I will need to wait till June.

Thanks Michael, I will save this post and use it as a guide in June!

The Cheshire Cat

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Apr 29, 2007, 6:30:44 PM4/29/07
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"Scoot" <st...@spam.spam> wrote in message
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i have never seen a battle set that is worth the ammount of money they want
you to pay for it. yes, perhaps it might be 10$ cheaper than buying them
seperately, but its still 50% more expensive than it ought to be.


rkl...@yahoo.com

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Apr 29, 2007, 6:55:57 PM4/29/07
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:53:05 -0400, Michael Magliocca
<cth...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

>Scoot wrote:
>> With an anniversary coming up, I am tempted to ask (probably followed
>> by a divorce) for another army. I was wondering what box was the best
>> bang for the buck and pointwise playable without too many addons. I am
>> tapped out from Nids, Necron and Marines. And I am wondering what else
>> might be good... (thinking humans, or order, but...)
>
>Here is the summary I made for myself:
>

[snip]


>Dark Angels Army Box ($271) $210
> Codex: Dark Angels $20
> DA Company Master $12
> Librarian in Power Armor $12
> Devastator Squad (5) $35
> Assault Terminator Squad (5) $50
> Scout Squad (5) $20
> Tactical Squad (10) $35
> 2 DA Veteran Upgrade Sprue $15?
> Combat Squad (5) $20
> Predator Destructor Tank $40
> Ravenwing Sprue $??
> 2 Tactical Upgrade Sprues $12
>
>Dark Angels Battleforce ($145) $90
> DA Command Squad (5) $35
> Combat Squad (5) $20
> Devastator Squad (5) $35
> Scouts w/ Sniper Rifles (5) $25
> Rhino Transport $30
>
>Ravenwing Battleforce ($145) $90
> 6 Ravenwing Bikes $70
> Ravenwing Attack Bike $25
> Ravenwing Land Speeder $30
>

[snip]
Nice summary.

I would almost place the DA veteran sprues at the $20 mark. Those
sprues cover all you would need and then some for a combat squad and
the box that comes with that sprue and a $6 tac upgrade sprue is only
$22. The ravenwing upgrade sprues if they were bit orderable would
probably be in the $10-15 range for the full sprue I think.

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