[paint] best matte finish spray
smcdaniel1
(Clear, of course) is best for flattening my mini's after using "the Dip".
The Testors "Dullcote" seems to work OK if it's over 70 degrees, if not it
dries shiny. GW "matt" which I've had for a few years and finally tried,
sux.
What are your opinions?
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Myrmidon
says...
> I can't seem to find a consensus out there about which spray matte finish
> (Clear, of course) is best for flattening my mini's after using "the Dip".
>
> The Testors "Dullcote" seems to work OK if it's over 70 degrees, if not it
> dries shiny. GW "matt" which I've had for a few years and finally tried,
> sux.
>
> What are your opinions?
>
>
years or so, but that's a hazard with any varnish. Others have also
recommended that if you're worried about durability, in many cases it's
better to use a gloss varnish, followed by a dull or matte varnish as
the gloss will hold up better with time.
The problem with any varnish is that it's solvent based and prone to
'frosting' (white hazy discoloration) if applied under non-optimal
conditions. And by 'optimal conditions' I mean a very limited temp and
humidity range. Being solvent based, it dries via a chemical process
rather than simple evaporation and small changes in temp can increase or
decrease the time frame drastically. Humidity also seems to have an
effect - high humdity seemingly causing a greater chance for the
'frosted' effect to occur. So, the upshot is that it can't complete the
drying process to fast or to slow, or with high humidity, or all of your
hard work painting your minis can go right down the toilet.
Personally I've never had good luck with varnishes and I don't use
them on my minis. If you want to use a spray varnish, hopefully
someone else with better experience will chime in here.
I might suggest an alternative - if you get what is called 'Matte
Medium'. It's a sort of acrylic base like standard acrylic paint - but
without any sort of pigment whatsoever. The clear acrylic media comes
in Flat, Satin, & Gloss, much like the varnishes, and you can thin it
down and use it via an air-brush if you don't want to hand paint a boat-
load of minis.
Hope that helps,
Myr :)
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smcdaniel1
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"Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gPAQm.35385$tz6....@newsfe02.iad>, smcda...@cox.net
> says...
>> I can't seem to find a consensus out there about which spray matte finish
>> (Clear, of course) is best for flattening my mini's after using "the
>> Dip".
>>
>> The Testors "Dullcote" seems to work OK if it's over 70 degrees, if not
>> it
>> dries shiny. GW "matt" which I've had for a few years and finally tried,
>> sux.
>>
>> What are your opinions?
>>
>>
> I've used Testors Dullcoat - it will eventually yellow after 20
> years or so, but that's a hazard with any varnish.
Good God! How old are you? I thought that I was the geezer here...
>
> The problem with any varnish is that it's solvent based and prone to
> 'frosting' (white hazy discoloration) if applied under non-optimal
> conditions. And by 'optimal conditions' I mean a very limited temp and
> humidity range. Being solvent based, it dries via a chemical process
> rather than simple evaporation and small changes in temp can increase or
> decrease the time frame drastically. Humidity also seems to have an
> effect - high humdity seemingly causing a greater chance for the
> 'frosted' effect to occur. So, the upshot is that it can't complete the
> drying process to fast or to slow, or with high humidity, or all of your
> hard work painting your minis can go right down the toilet.
>
Thanks. The point is that I am trying to avoid hard work: Two base colours
and a dip, then flat coat. Viola! Right now that looks smashing but somewhat
shiny. I just want to flatten them (Without using Blackheart's hammer)
> Personally I've never had good luck with varnishes and I don't use
> them on my minis. If you want to use a spray varnish, hopefully
> someone else with better experience will chime in here.
Hear hear!
>
> I might suggest an alternative - if you get what is called 'Matte
> Medium'. It's a sort of acrylic base like standard acrylic paint - but
> without any sort of pigment whatsoever. The clear acrylic media comes
> in Flat, Satin, & Gloss, much like the varnishes, and you can thin it
> down and use it via an air-brush if you don't want to hand paint a boat-
> load of minis.
>
Thanks for the tips Myr.
Minty fresh
> Thanks. The point is that I am trying to avoid hard work: Two base colours
> and a dip, then flat coat. Viola! Right now that looks smashing but
> somewhat shiny. I just want to flatten them (Without using Blackheart's
> hammer)
I used to get good results from Humbrol but they changed the formula so
recently I bought a can of Testors. It appears to be ok. If you're doing
just doing quick unit grade paint jobs for playinf with, I think any
modelling matte varnish will be ok. Your fingers will wear most of it back
to the all in one wash anyway over time.
smcdaniel1
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> "Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <gPAQm.35385$tz6....@newsfe02.iad>, smcda...@cox.net
>> says...
>>> I can't seem to find a consensus out there about which spray matte
>>> finish
>>> (Clear, of course) is best for flattening my mini's after using "the
>>> Dip".
>>>
>>> The Testors "Dullcote" seems to work OK if it's over 70 degrees, if not
>>> it
>>> dries shiny. GW "matt" which I've had for a few years and finally tried,
>>> sux.
>>>
>>> What are your opinions?
>>>
>>>
>> I've used Testors Dullcoat - it will eventually yellow after 20
>> years or so, but that's a hazard with any varnish.
>
>
Very happy with the dullcoat now that it is 75 degrees here in The Big SD,
Thanks Myr.
Myrmidon
says...
1. Glad to be of assistance.
2. You have heat? Damn, I'm so mailing myself to your location. It's
colder than a Witch's titty here at the moment. You can spit out the
window and hear a 'Clink' sound when it hits the pavement.
Myr -haven't had time to paint at all recently- midon
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> > "smcdaniel1" <smcdani...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> > > Sir Scott " " McDaniel
> > > "Myrmidon" <Im...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > >> says...
> > >>> I can't seem to find a consensus out there about which spray matte
> > >>> finish
> > >>> (Clear, of course) is best for flattening my mini's after using "the
> > >>> Dip".
>
> > >>> The Testors "Dullcote" seems to work OK if it's over 70 degrees, if not
> > >>> it
> > >>> dries shiny. GW "matt" which I've had for a few years and finally tried,
> > >>> sux.
>
> > >>> What are your opinions?
>
> > >> I've used Testors Dullcoat - it will eventually yellow after 20
> > >> years or so, but that's a hazard with any varnish.
>
> > Very happy with the dullcoat now that it is 75 degrees here in The Big SD,
> > Thanks Myr.
>
> 1. Glad to be of assistance.
>
> 2. You have heat? Damn, I'm so mailing myself to your location. It's
> colder than a Witch's titty here at the moment. You can spit out the
> window and hear a 'Clink' sound when it hits the pavement.
>
> Myr -haven't had time to paint at all recently- midon
>
> --
> Mint condition Rogue Trader book? I don't believe such a thing exists.
> They came pre-fallen apart from the printers.
I has heat but it no workie good against the cold from outside....