[Paint] Acrylic vs Latex -- Anyone done this?
James and Andrea Gustafson
I'm basecoating a couple of armies in a particular color, and I'm afraid I'm
going to run out. The color is from a regional supplier and I haven't been
able to track it down reliably. So I was thinking of taking a paint sample
to Walmart and having them mix up a quart of the stuff.
So my questions are these: Will there be a noticable difference between the
acrylic model paint I have, and the latex paint I'd be getting from
wally-world, and if so, what would that difference be? Will it be workable
on models (i.e. able to be thinned with water, and/or mixed with other
colors.) Can I expect similar drying times? Is there any unforseen
consequence of doing this? Anyone done this before? Will the fumes be too
much?
Thanks,
James.
Myrmidon
jeg...@earthlink.net, James and Andrea Gustafson shouted out the following
words of wit...
results. Latex paint is very different than acrylic paints. While both
can be thinned with water, the acrylic paints will give much better
results. First and foremost reason is the pigment particle size. The
more finely ground the pigment particles the better (and more expensive)
the paint. This is often a factor in what determines the vast price
difference between - junior and artist grades of the same type of oil,
watercolor, or acrylic paints. While the pigment itself (like the metals
in bright colors such as red and orange) determines some of the price, the
amount of refinement and grinding it takes to get a smooth fine grade of
particles is the other part of the equation.
Latex house paint will take a good big longer to dry than say hobby or
artist grade acrylics, it will not have anywhere as fine a pigment size
and will very likely look very bad by comparison to the acrylic stuff.
(That's why Latex paint is designed to be put on with a 2 inch brush or a
large 9 inch roller.) It will almost certainly not give the same results
when thinned down with water, and will likely look very poorly when
compaired to areas painted with acrylic paint. It's sort of like painting
a car with latex house paint and a brush or roller - it might fool someone
at medium or long range, but up close it'll be obvious that it's not a
good paint job. Another factor is how difficult it will be for them to
get a match that will come out looking close once the Latex has dried.
Having just painted several rooms in my house with bright latex colors
(the kids picked the new colors for their rooms) - I can tell you that
even on a good white surface Latex tends to darken a bit in hue and value
once it's fully dry.
I honestly think that you'd be better off getting a small glass jar, some
good acrylic paints, a bit of retarding agent (to keep the paint from
drying out in the jar longer) and mixing your own color match than you
would be to use Latex house paint. I think you'll find that the latex has
a lot rougher surface and doesn't work well on miniatures.
Myrmidon
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Ancient Gamer
Andrea Gustafson declares...
UH...how shall I put this delicately...I can't.
Models painted with Latex would suck period (See Myrmidons answer for the
why's)!
Besides if you are going to Wal*Mart then head over the their craft
section with your bottle of paint and try to find a match in the several
hundred shades of craft paint they carry. They are after all acrylics and
are 100% compatible with every other modeling acrylic I have ever used...
--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 3781st of September in the year 1993...
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[snip]
> Models painted with Latex would suck period
Mmmmmm. Models bodypainted with latex that suck - Sigh!
Rikk30
<ancien...@juZZZZZZno.com> wrote:
>Entering the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer, James and
>Andrea Gustafson declares...
>>
>> I'm basecoating a couple of armies in a particular color, and I'm afraid I'm
>> going to run out. The color is from a regional supplier and I haven't been
>> able to track it down reliably. So I was thinking of taking a paint sample
>> to Walmart and having them mix up a quart of the stuff.
>>
>> So my questions are these: Will there be a noticable difference between the
>> acrylic model paint I have, and the latex paint I'd be getting from
>> wally-world, and if so, what would that difference be? Will it be workable
>> on models (i.e. able to be thinned with water, and/or mixed with other
>> colors.) Can I expect similar drying times? Is there any unforseen
>> consequence of doing this? Anyone done this before? Will the fumes be too
>> much?
>
>UH...how shall I put this delicately...I can't.
>
>Models painted with Latex would suck period (See Myrmidons answer for the
>why's)!
>
>Besides if you are going to Wal*Mart then head over the their craft
>section with your bottle of paint and try to find a match in the several
>hundred shades of craft paint they carry. They are after all acrylics and
>are 100% compatible with every other modeling acrylic I have ever used...
How good are these WM craft paints for miniatures?
I am going to start to work on terrain and was thinking about using
the WM paints on the styro foam I have.
Rikk
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Ancient Gamer
declares...
plaid gloss paints are pretty good, I have used them for about 15 years
off and on, with no trouble yet.
They have the added plus of costing a whole lot less 2oz for 44 cents
(US) for apple barrel. The equivalent amount of GW paint would cost you
about $11.00. So even if you get the most expensive at $1.49 (I think).
It will still save you boatloads of money...
--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 3782nd of September in the year 1993...
Rikk30
<ancien...@juZZZZZZno.com> wrote:
I will have to get some for painting my terrain. I have a bunch of GW
and Vallejo paints so will probably stick with them for the 40k minis
but will give a few cheaper minis I have a go with the WM paints.
Thanks!