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Michael Douglas Hamon

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Mar 6, 2001, 3:40:57 PM3/6/01
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I am a reasonably good painter but have become a bit stuck with a few
things. First of all does anyone have any advice with painting metal other
than a boltgun metal layer and then drybrush mithril silver. I don't have
alot of money so i can't try out loads of different colors, secondly does
anyone know a good camo scheme for IG storm troopers i have tried black
(kind of stealthy look) and it looks boring.
Thanks in advance

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DeathWing

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Mar 6, 2001, 5:15:33 PM3/6/01
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What I do is this: a black undercoat then drybrush with boltgun metal and
then with silver. Gives me a nice effect... and it shouldn't cost you a
buck!!! ;)


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DavidR3986

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Mar 6, 2001, 6:06:01 PM3/6/01
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>I am a reasonably good painter but have become a bit stuck with a few
>things. First of all does anyone have any advice with painting metal other
>than a boltgun metal layer and then drybrush mithril silver. I don't have
>alot of money so i can't try out loads of different colors,

Hmm... well, for rapid painting, I usually do boltgun metal, then a black ink
wash. This brings out the details better, and winds up looking a bit darker
overall.

You can also paint black, then drybrush on the metallic shade. Depending on
how heavy you go on the drybrushing, you can get a very dark, weathered look
this way.

For a glossier, smoother metal look, I use a compound called Rub 'n Buff, which
I found in a local arts and crafts store. This is a little tricky to use...
apply it before you apply any other colors to the miniature with a stiff, cheap
nylon brush. Let it dry, then buff it with your finger, a bit of sponge, soft
cloth, or soft paper. I'd recommend sealing your miniature then, otherwise the
Rub 'n Buff will still 'bleed'... it's basically a waxy compound. It sounds
like a pain, and it is, but the result looks vastly more like 'real' metal than
any paint I've used so far.

>secondly does
>anyone know a good camo scheme for IG storm troopers i have tried black
>(kind of stealthy look) and it looks boring.
>Thanks in advance

How about a simple tiger stripe scheme? Grey with black stripes, light brown
with dark green, etc.

Good luck!

-David

Richard Lobinske

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Mar 6, 2001, 7:02:39 PM3/6/01
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>First of all does anyone have any advice with painting metal other
>than a boltgun metal layer and then drybrush mithril silver.
>I don't have
>alot of money so i can't try out loads of different colors

Since you don't want to try additional paints, try mithril silver with a black
wash, or another dark wash, depending on effect. You could also custom mix
metallic shades using mithril silver and black, try various base colors, washes
and drybrushes.

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ok, for metallics i find the easiest and cheapest way to do something like
this is dont do metallics. sounds silly? wait till you hear it. it works.
paint over the metallic part with codex grey, which is about a dollar
cheaper. then, go along the edges with a lighter grey. there, it looks good
and it signifies metal. it might not be bright and shiny but it looks good
nonetheless.

i find that a great looking and fun way to do camo is to go with the tiger
look. go to your shop and go directly to the ral partha section. pick up
some black if you dont have any, yellow if you dont have any, and orange
ink. paint the pants and jacket yellow, the to tiny black strips like a
tiger. dont worry about the paint looking flat, what im about to tell you
will fix that. dip your brush into the orange ink and then squeeze it out
into a puddle on your pallet or whatever you use for mixing. dont use paper!
use plastic or something. then, take some water and mix it in, thinning out
the paint. keep its consistency so it is still orange, dont over do it. just
a little bit of water. then, wash over the miniature. after you do this,
youll notice that the orange has settled into the creases and not onto the
rest, which is what you want. next, take your brush and dip it into the
orange, and apply small bits directly to the creases of your miniature (i.e.
folds in the clothing, etc.) but not too much. youll notice how it blends
from orange to yellow and give it a nice tiger feel.


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The Lizard King

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:37:19 AM3/7/01
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I mix Chaos Black and Codex Grey with a touch of Ice Blue until I'm
satisfied with the color - usually an iron grey type of color. After I paint
the armor/metal parts on the model, I add Skull White to the mix and give
these same parts a good drybrushing with it. Then go over it all with either
a grey ink or a very watered down black ink. I think the results are pretty
good. You don't get the shine you would get with metal piants but I think
you get a smoother look.

Jeff


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Steve

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well pends on your sprayed basecoat,

black: paint silver, black wash, drybrush silver

white: paint silver, black wash, drybrushed silver

note: the black undercoat is not needed, the silver looks real light, but
when the black wash (ink) is used it fixes any problems. another note, if
you can get the old armor wash it is better but you can "fix" the black ink
GW sells, add silver paint to the ink pot till you get enough silver flake
in it that your happy with.
Steve


Chris Birkett

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Mar 7, 2001, 6:58:49 AM3/7/01
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Hmm...when I paint metal I always start with black, then do a whole lot of
REALLY light silver drybrushes, it omes out with a nice-looking effect. I
mean REALLY light dryrushes.

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Michael Douglas Hamon

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Thanks alot for the advice


-edd-


Nisse

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Mar 7, 2001, 6:38:30 AM3/7/01
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What i do is to paint it Mithril Silver then apply Chainmail as a
sort of wash, gives a dirty metallic look. It looks splendid on
chainmail.

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John Hwang

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Mar 8, 2001, 10:52:58 PM3/8/01
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Nisse d94...@nada.kth.se wrote:
>Michael Douglas Hamon wrote:
>> I am a reasonably good painter but have become a bit stuck with a few
>> things. First of all does anyone have any advice with painting metal other
>> than a boltgun metal layer and then drybrush mithril silver.

Try using a black base under the boltgun metal to "solidify" the color, and
using a thin black wash over the bolgun metal to bring down the harshness and
"unify" the color. Then just go lightly with the drybrush.

Or simply drybrushing the metal over the black base.

>> I don't have alot of money so i can't try out loads of different colors,

You'll get them, eventually. :)

>> secondly does anyone know a good camo scheme for IG storm troopers
>> i have tried black (kind of stealthy look) and it looks boring.

Highlight with midnight blue/dark blue to give a bit of color contrast and
texture.

Otherwise, I'd just paint a standard 3-color jungle or woodland camo pattern
and call it a day.

Personally, I usually test-paint a fig before committing to an entire unit.
Just keep experimenting until you find something you like and can repeat.

>> Thanks in advance

Good luck.

>What i do is to paint it Mithril Silver then apply Chainmail as a
>sort of wash, gives a dirty metallic look. It looks splendid on
>chainmail.

??? So you're thinning the Chainmail before putting it over the Silver?
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Mark Story

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Mar 18, 2001, 7:05:11 PM3/18/01
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I paint predominately orks, so I can tell you how to get a really beat
up weathered looking metal fairly cheaply. Base coat the area in
black. heavily drybrush in boltgun, so that all of the area except the
deepest parts are metal. Paint on some brown ink, covering everything.
Then drybrush boltgun on in a stripey-streaky fashion using any angle
you like, and then repeat the lines with mithril but make sure the lines
are thinner.

Can't help you with the camo.. never painted it before.

-Mark


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Ganapati

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Mar 19, 2001, 5:47:40 PM3/19/01
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Mark Story wrote:

> Michael Douglas Hamon wrote:
> >
> > I am a reasonably good painter but have become a bit stuck with a few
> > things. First of all does anyone have any advice with painting metal
> > other than a boltgun metal layer and then drybrush mithril silver. I
> > don't have alot of money so i can't try out loads of different colors,
> > secondly does anyone know a good camo scheme for IG storm troopers i
> > have tried black (kind of stealthy look) and it looks boring.
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > ---Edd---

You'd better use Humbrol metallic paints. They have a huge range of
metallic colors and you can easily find equivalent of citadel paints.

Hervé-


Bubba Pearson

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Mar 21, 2001, 6:44:10 PM3/21/01
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> I am a reasonably good painter but have become a bit stuck
> with a few things. First of all does anyone have any advice with
> painting metal other than a boltgun metal layer and then dry-
> brush mithril silver. I don't have alot of money [...]

Here's a VERY inexpensive tip: get a number 1 pencil,
get your point to the right size to do the barrel, etc., *draw*
the gun piece(s) with the pencil (just drag it across detail
fairly lighlty for *highlighting*), then rub your finger along
the barrel/whatever to smooth out the color, and the graph-
ite of the pencil *lead* will look great! I usually paint the
barrel/other places for this treatment with a base of black;
the black with a cover of rubbed graphite (get a good
build-up of graphite on the pieces you want, and if your
finger isn't convenient, just rub it in with a paint brush!).
I think you'll find it not only easy and convenient but quite
good looking. Good luck!

Take care,

Bubba Pearson
Knoxville, MD

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