Spray primer
aski...@avs.com
some 15mm fantasy. Sooner or later, I'll probably paint the various
plastic sci-fi miniatures I've been using in Shock Force (most from
board games). That's just to let you know what sorts of things I use
this on.
Anyway, I've been having trouble finding white Krylon spray primer. It
used to be at Home Depot, but they don't carry Krylon now (or at least
the one I checked near work doesn't, and I assume they all carry the
same stuff). The craft stores have white paint, but only carry gray
primer. I finally found some at a small hardware store, where I paid
$1.50 more than I would have paid at a craft store.
Do I need primer if I use spray paint? I did all that work to find the
above because I've
been successful enough with that, and didn't want to try out the wrong
thing. I'm sure I could buy a miniatures brand primer, but I suspect
it would be even more expensive than the hardware store (bigger price,
smaller amount). Would any old spray paint work? The primer mentions
smoothing surfaces, which I obviously don't want, but I've never
noticed any loss of detail. If I bought the white spray paint and just
used that, would I have any less durability? Of course, then I could
start just spraying on the base color of the miniature, and I suppose
that would save me some time.
Anyway, for our purposes, is a spray paint as good as a spray primer?
Any brands to recommend or avoid?
thanks,
andy
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> Anyway, I've been having trouble finding white Krylon spray primer. It
> used to be at Home Depot, but they don't carry Krylon now (or at least
> the one I checked near work doesn't, and I assume they all carry the
> same stuff). The craft stores have white paint, but only carry gray
> primer. I finally found some at a small hardware store, where I paid
> $1.50 more than I would have paid at a craft store.
Try _Automotive_ stores. About half carry Krylon exclusively, and the
chains tend to have it cheper than craft stores.
> Do I need primer if I use spray paint?
If the sprays are -enamel-, ->no.
If the sprays are -latex-(acrylic) ->yes
(in my experience).
> I did all that work to find the
> above because I've
> been successful enough with that, and didn't want to try out the wrong
> thing.
It's guaranteed when you try something new, the results will be
different. In my experience, 50% the results were bad, 25% the results
were acceptable, 25% the results were so different as to be better for a
specific purpose.
Out of 10-15 brands of Primer, I still prefer Krylon, myself. It's
that Satin finish ;-P
> I'm sure I could buy a miniatures brand primer, but I suspect
> it would be even more expensive than the hardware store (bigger price,
> smaller amount).
Much more expensive, with mixed results. One brand (I -think- it was GW)
gave "Furry" results, one brand ( I -think- it was Armory) gave OK
results. Both more than double the price of Krylon.
> Would any old spray paint work?
No.
> The primer mentions
> smoothing surfaces, which I obviously don't want, but I've never
> noticed any loss of detail.
It does tend to even out miniscule pitting, and -can- obscure detail if
applied too thickly on one spray: that's pretty much common sense, tho.
> If I bought the white spray paint and just
> used that, would I have any less durability? Of course, then I could
> start just spraying on the base color of the miniature, and I suppose
> that would save me some time.
Only saves time In the short term: base colors tend to rub off more easily
(excepting Enamels)
> Anyway, for our purposes, is a spray paint as good as a spray primer?
Entirely different finishes. Primer gives a "satin" finish, ideal for
painting over, most spray enamels give a Gloss finish that won't hold
paint, most spray acrylics give uneven results on metal vs. plastic (and
in a worse case: won't stick to either very well).
> Any brands to recommend or avoid?
Recommend: Krylon
acceptable: Plasti-Kote (tricky to work with; goes on very fine, builds up
in crevices)
Acceptable: DupliColor ((tends to get "Fuzzy")
Andy O'Neill
>Any brands to recommend or avoid?
Car primer is good stuff.
I use Halfords grey primer, they also do white, but that doesn't suit my
painting method.
I suspect Halfords is only UK based, but there must be a similar sort of
car tools n paints chain in the US.
Halfords car lacquer is an excellent gloss varnish.
Andy O'Neill
www.l-25.demon.co.uk/index.htm
Liverpool Wargames Association
www.l-25.demon.co.uk/LWA.htm
Jon Walker
that primer is made with an added "filler" to fill in scratches, etc. and can
ruin the small details in miniatures. The primer from The Armory works very
well. I used to use Floquils but they changed the formula and doesnt work as
well IMO.
Jon Walker
DSundseth
>gave "Furry" results, one brand ( I -think- it was Armory) gave OK
>results. Both more than double the price of Krylon.
Armory spray primer is relabled Krylon sandable primer. Armory has to pay
Krylon, then make its own money. Result: more expensive for same paint.
Doug Sundseth
Jason Altland
<aski...@avs.com> wrote in message news:7i3i4m$m55$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> I paint both plastic and metal miniatures> Any brands to recommend or
avoid?(primer)
Games Workshop primer has always worked very well for me. If you're willing
to shell more money than I would reccomend it
COWW (Stan Olson)
Stan: A good spray primer is worth the added expense.
I prefer a flat white primer, myself.
Primers "Grab" into the metal surface.
Your next layers of acrylic+inks or enamel paints
then can go on less thickly, to cover the
grey of a metal figure ...
Shake the can well as directed and use
when in room temp. and under low humidity
conditions ...
It bugs me also, that good quality primers
like Krylon are not stocked well enough in
stores. I suspect the white primer is
popular with art students and sign painters
or small auto-body people ....
That would explain it being sold out.
Wallpaper places sell spray primers also .
eg. Colour Your World ..
Thane Morgan
DSundseth wrote:
> >One brand (I -think- it was GW)
> >gave "Furry" results, one brand ( I -think- it was Armory) gave OK
> >results. Both more than double the price of Krylon.
>
I had the same problem with citadel paint spray primer. I used to use their
sealer, but now I use ultrahold hairspray and a layer or two of Testors Dull
Cote.