WWII German Yellow?
Slapshot
Got my first batch of 15mm WWII Late War German vehicles, and noticed I
don't have a color that looks quite right as the German Yellow basecoat.
Can anyone recommend an acryllic color that comes the closest? I have a
large number of Ral Partha, Armory and Accu-Flex paints, but the closest I
came was with Armory Camouflage Yellow (looks too light) or RP Dun (looks
too brown).
I noticed Vallejo has a German Yellow, and it looks like it may fit the
bill, anyone have any input on this?
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Paul
TLTuohy
>don't have a color that looks quite right as the German Yellow basecoat.
It doesn't fall within the ones you already have but the Testors Model Master
line of acrylics includes a German panzer yellow (Panzerdunkelgelb).
I don't know how you paint, but if the only problem with the Armory yellow is
that it's too light, why not try a dark undercoat before using it or a dark
wash afterwards?
LT
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Humbrol is the closest.
GW vomit brown is close enough.
Either will want weathering with a dark wash and then dry brushing with the
base coat mixed with light grey or fawn for highlights.
Then the splodges...
In the field... the colour varied pretty radically.
It quickly faded to a lighter greyer colour.
Crews often seem to have washed a vehicle down with their brown or green
paste thinned right down so it'd have a light greenish cast or a browny sort
of look.
Then they splodge green and brown all over.
A load of dust and mud later and the vehicles then rarely looked like the
orange-ochre factory colour.
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Kreepykoop
think it looks great, especially after some weathering.
Andy
Tim DuPertuis
even being a little lighter for the small scale effect.
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Ian H Nicoll
Seen a few of the posts, and thought that I'd put in my valued opinion.
That is, why not mix your own? I use a lot of Jo Sonja's artist paints.
The thing I like about doing this is once you buy a few basic colours you
can experiment and mix up your own special colour. You get a bit of
experience with this and you know how to re-create it. SURE it won't be
exactly the same, but that's exactly what I want.
I painted up a batch of 15mm Napoleonic Brits (for Spain) and I have
every shade from a dark red to almost a pink (not quite). My rationale
is that 'things stay stock for about 5 minutes after issue'. It's akin
to (paraphrasing) 'no battle plan survives contact with the enemy'.
There are WAY too many variables. Consider this:
1 - sporadic cloud cover will cast different shadow across the battle
field.
2 - differing times 'in the field' will create different shades from
due to bleaching from the sun (and washing of clothes in the case of my
Napoleonic Brits)
3 - Artificial Weathering (that done by the crew) will change the colour
even more.
If I was to do Panzer Yellow in 15mm this is how I'd do it:
- Undercoat very well in Black.
- Dry brush with white
- divide the vehicles into three batches.
- first batch get Jo Sonja Yellow Oxide (P.Y.42) pretty well applied
directly from the tube, although it is a bit dark.
- second batch get Jo Sonja Yellow Oxide (P.Y.42) with a bit of white
mixed in. Enough so you can tell the difference between the colours.
Then dry brush the first batch with the second batch's leftovers.
- third batch get Jo Sonja Yellow Oxide (P.Y. 42) with even MORE
white mixed in. Then dry brush the second batch with the leftovers, and
do a really really light dry brushing on the first batch.
- add a bit more white and dry brush the third batch and then the second
batch really really lightly
- add a bit MORE white (so the stuff would be about 50:50 yellow oxide
white by now) and do the really really light dry brush on the third
batch.
- do the detailing as you like - exhausts, tracks, etc, and weather
additionally as you see fit. Make the tanks a real mess. Mud CAKED on.
Even possibly get some putty to make a real mess of the things (yeah,
it's disgusting to do this to $17.00 a packet of three, but it IS more
realistic) or if you don't want to use putty you can use the thick Jo
Sonja artist paint direct from the tube without watering down any. It's
thick stuff, and will dry like mud dries anyway.
- last stage is to ink with Windsor&Newton 954 Nut Brown. I'd only do
this stage if the figures had good detail to start with. If you do it
with some cheaper models you bring out the bad casting etc, but good
quality models bring out rivets and buttons, tracks etc really nicely.
Now, you only asked what colour is good for German Yellow, and I've gone
into further detail. The reason I did was to show how "I'd" paint them
using the paint that "I" use. And my philosophy in painting figures is
for the most part it DOESN'T MATTER so long as you get it MOSTLY right.
ASk anyone who has been in the military, things don't stay the way they
are meant to for very long when on campaign or exercise.
Hope this has been helpful.
Ian
Slapshot
replying late, have been busy lately.
All the suggestions were good, and I have tried a few. I am not pleased with
my progres thus far, think I'm suffering from painters block:)
Thanks,
Paul
Ian H Nicoll
Been there... done that.
I have an army to paint up in the next two weeks. Fortunately it is
mostly finished, and I only have 100 figures to paint. I SHOULD be able
to knock if over in the two weeks... which makes me wonder why I'm on
this computer... probably painters block :).