painting guides for 30 Years war -- what are some?
BBradf3021
countries?
I wish to make an Imperialist army as well.
Helmut
Mark Allen did a nice series of color plates in several issues of
Wargames Illustrated. Using my home-made index (yes,I'm hopeless) I see
issues 82,83,84 and 101. Can't double-check those right now as the mags
are in temporary storage. The League of Augsburg might help you with
some info:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AMcINTYRE3/homepage.htm
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Wagner. Has nice color plates thruout.
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bbrad...@aol.com (BBradf3021) wrote:
> I have only the Osprey books on the Swedes, but what about books on
the other
> countries?
>
> I wish to make an Imperialist army as well.
There is a lot of speculation on 30YW uniforms, or, more properly,
costume. An effort was made in some armies to standardize, either as
uniforms, or to get a discount on cloth. But because mass production and
standard uniforms were not universal, field signs, i.e. plumes, sashes,
etc. were commonly used to help identify the players without a program.
Years ago when I was painting my 30YW flats some old ZINNFIGUREN
articles were making their rounds, and my French pen pals provided some
rumors.
One of the latter was that Graf Tilly (whose Army was broken up badly at
Breitenfeld) had bought large supplies of red brown cloth from Venice to
clothe (and/or patch the costumes) of his troops. Artists oils and
acrylics carry a "Venetian Red" color. In some paint lines there is a
more or less identical color carried as "Italian Cammo Brown." It makes
the brown spots on field gray Italian AFV. When out of those colors I
find that GW "Vermin Fur" is a close match.
Notionally sashes and plumes were:
Light/Medium Blue for the Catholic League. This may have gone out of
fashion when Sweden got into the war with medium blue field signs. I
went to a mix of blue sashes and red plumes for post-Swedish Leaguers.
At BAYOU WARS last weekend a student of the period mentioned findings of
numerous mismatched sashes said to have belonged to Gustavus Adolphus,
so it is pretty much up for grabs. But the conventional wisdom was blue.
Red was preferred in Imperial and Spanish circles. Wallenstien is
supposed to have mandated nothing but red sashes for officers. There is
a story that one of his officers got so mad he tore off his gold sash
and stamped up and down on it.
France favored white sashes and some plumes. This remained in fashion
until around 1700 when most regimental officers stopped wearing sashes.
Uniform regulations did not become formal until 1688. but the
regulations of that year (garance for Irish, gray white for native
French, Turkish blue or turquoise for German, scarlet for Swiss)
probably reflected developing customs. For all that, French uniforms for
the masses should not be presumed for the 30YW-only field signs.
The Saxons were more formal. Years ago I translated Jean Belaubre's THE
ARMY OF ELECTORAL SAXONY during the 30YW, and apparently every regiment
had a primary and secondary uniform color. The Brietenfeld rabbits were
well dressed indeed. I have a few copies lying about.
There is an article by Bill Boyle in the latest MWAN about Lutzen which
carries much of this information. Some of it is new to me, but most of
it tracks with what I had read in the past. He cites Belaubre in his
sources.
In the ECW uniforms by regiment were the rule, except that the East
Anglian Association, from which the New Model Army sprang, wore red, a
custom which caught on in England. Field signs were supposed to be red
for Royalists and "tawny orange" for Parliamentarians. Orange was also,
I think, traditional for Holland when the House of Orange was in power.
Hope this helps.
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