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Paul Baldwin

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Does anyone know of some bolt on extra rules for Rapid Fire, making it
more suitable for the SCW. If anyone could point me in a suitable
direction I would be most grateful.

Thanks in Advance

Paul

Martin Goddard

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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THE ONLY RULES for SCW are Bayonet and Ideology by Peter Pig.
These rules are designed to work with our brilliant range of SCW 15mm
figures.
They are all available from Brookhurst Hobbies - where the guys will
love to take your call and all have lovely smiles. (Does this buy me a
donut in February Larry?)
Julie Goddard at Peter Pig>

Brookhobby

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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>They are all available from Brookhurst Hobbies - where the guys will
>love to take your call and all have lovely smiles. (Does this buy me a
>donut in February Larry?)
>Julie Goddard at Peter Pig>
Yes it does Julie and cream for your coffee.
See you in February.
best always.................larry huber
p.s the Peter Pig rules are great.


The Peter Pig rules are alot of fun to play.

MHMichaud

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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>Does anyone know of some bolt on extra rules for Rapid Fire, making it
>more suitable for the SCW. If anyone could point me in a suitable
>direction I would be most grateful.

Yes, Mark Hannam produces a very fine SCW supplement for Rapid Fire. It's
called "Rompan el Fuego" and I HIGHLY recommend it, especially if you're
already a Rapid Fire fan. You can contact Mark at:

2 F/R, 65 Walker Rd.
Aberdeen AB11 8DL

If you're in the US, I think Pat Condray (HPC, Editions Brokaw) is now
distributing Rompan el Fuego. Good luck.

Matt

Bryan Stroup

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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Pat Condray also produces a ruleset "Viva El Cristo Rey" which is published by
Partizan Press. I think On Military Matters carries the set. If you need to
contact Pat Condray, his address and e-mail address is listed at my Age of
Marlborough website:
http://stroubs.fgp.ufl.edu/home/marlboro.htm

Currently I support his "Wargaming the Age of Marlborough" rules at
conventions in the SE US while he concentrates on promoting his 20mm line of
SCW figures. If you have a problem contacting him, please send me a message
at:
str...@bellsouth.net

-Bryan Stroup

In article <19970923183...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, mhmi...@aol.com

(MHMichaud) wrote:
>Yes, Mark Hannam produces a very fine SCW supplement for Rapid Fire. It's
>called "Rompan el Fuego" and I HIGHLY recommend it, especially if you're
>already a Rapid Fire fan. You can contact Mark at:
>
>2 F/R, 65 Walker Rd.
>Aberdeen AB11 8DL
>
>If you're in the US, I think Pat Condray (HPC, Editions Brokaw) is now
>distributing Rompan el Fuego. Good luck.
>
>Matt


-Bryan

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http://stroubs.fgp.ufl.edu/
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John Garvey

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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MHMichaud wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know of some bolt on extra rules for Rapid Fire, making it
> >more suitable for the SCW. If anyone could point me in a suitable
> >direction I would be most grateful.
>
> Yes, Mark Hannam produces a very fine SCW supplement for Rapid Fire. It's
> called "Rompan el Fuego" and I HIGHLY recommend it, especially if you're
> already a Rapid Fire fan.

Speaking of SCW. I'm interested in this period, and want to wargame it
in 6mm.

Can anyone recomend a good Introductory book on the SCW, especially one
with a wargames slant? What is the Osprey SCW book like?

I'm open to rules. Already I now know there is a Rapid Fire supplement
[I've never played Rapid Fire], and a set by Peter Pig. Any others? I
like simple rules, being simple myself you see :-) Would Arty's new
'Crossfire' rules work for SCW?

JohnG

kl...@mail.wcb.state.ny.us

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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In article <34289F...@mailpc.brs.gov.au>,

j...@mailpc.brs.gov.au wrote:
> Any others? I
> like simple rules, being simple myself you see :-) Would Arty's new
> 'Crossfire' rules work for SCW?
>

That depends on what you think were the characteristics of the SCW as
compared to WWII. Crossfire intends to simulates WWII infantry combat in
dense terrain/built-up areas. There are no ranges, no measurements. You
move squads from terrain feature to terrain feature. All weapons are
always in effective range. You would need to make up your own
organizational charts for the SCW, along with any special characteristics
for each army. Vehicles are in the game and individually rated but again
are abstracted.

To me this sounds like a lot of work, but thinking about it the Crossfire
rules would lend themselves to a supplement detailing information on
other "WWII-like" wars.

Bottom line, if you already have the organizational info for SCW, and are
willing to "fudge" some minor special rules to give flavor to the opposing
sides, then Crossfire should work fine.

--Dave
(david...@wcb.state.ny.us)

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rjone...@aol.com

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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In article <34289F...@mailpc.brs.gov.au>, John says...
>
>MHMichaud wrote:


>
>I'm open to rules. Already I now know there is a Rapid Fire supplement

>[I've never played Rapid Fire], and a set by Peter Pig. Any others? I


>like simple rules, being simple myself you see :-) Would Arty's new
>'Crossfire' rules work for SCW?
>

>JohnG

Piquet's Point Of Attack (POA) supplement has Spanish Civil War data and rules.
POA works very well in guerrilla and ambush simulations, as well as pitched
battles. It includes Divisional level, Battalion level, and Skirmish rules.

Note: I am the designer, so I do have a vested interest.

BJ

Tom Reed

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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>>MHMichaud wrote:

>>I'm open to rules. Already I now know there is a Rapid Fire supplement
>>[I've never played Rapid Fire], and a set by Peter Pig. Any others? I
>>like simple rules, being simple myself you see :-) Would Arty's new
>>'Crossfire' rules work for SCW?
>>
>>JohnG

John, just having played Crossfire for the first time this weekend, I
would have to say that they could work for you if you want to do
mostly infantry battles. I had a great time playing in the game.
I must say, however, that if you are wanting to paly with more than a
couple of players that it may not be for you. It is essentially a two
player game. Give it a look, it may work for you. ( I have developed a
new policy. I never say a game sucks anymore. I let people make up
their own minds that it sucks:) I have been thinking about using it
(modified) for science-fiction battles.

Tom Reed


MHMichaud

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97
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On SCW rules:

I agree that Crossfire would work for SCW, but you would have to put a lot
of work into tweaking the rules to recreate the flavor of the Spanish
situation. Again, Mark Hannam's got some company-level rules for SCW as
well as a book on company-level tactics in SCW. I haven't actually seen
them, but judging from "Rompan el Fuego!" they're probably very good.

Along those same lines, I think Spearhead would work well for SCW. And
if you've already got Mark's supplement for Rapid Fire, then it wouldn't
take much work to modify the rules appropriately.

I don't particularly like "Bayonet and Ideology." It just seems too
generic for me--not "historical" enough for my tastes. I prefer TO&Es over
random or points-based scenario generators, for example. But if you're not
concerned about that and want a quick game, these rules could work for you.
And the Peter Pig 15mm SCW figs are generally very good.

Condray's rules ("Viva el Cristo Rey") are alright, but I think they're
more fun played with him as a ref at a convention. He also sells a ruleset
called "Arriba Espana" by Partizan Press. I like "Viva" better, though,
cause in "Arriba" all you get are morale results rather than casualties.
It just doesn't seem bloody enough for SCW. Of course, Pat sells the 20mm
SCW figs, which are also very good and highly recommended.

I don't know anything about Point of Attack. I'm somewhat ambivalent
about Piquet, so I'll wait and play a few more games before I decide
whether to give it a try.

I think this is a great period to game. There's increasing awareness of
SCW, it's a very interesting war with several different types of scenario
possibilities, and there are several good books out there. The Ospreys are
very good, as usual. They have books on SCW in general, the
Internationals, and the Spanish Foreign Legion. The Foreign Legion book
covers periods other than SCW, as well as the SCW years, so you could live
without it, but the other two books are "must-haves." My advice would be
to contact Mark Hannam and Pat Condray, since they seem to be the leading
promoters of SCW in Britain and the US respectively. Plus, they're very
nice guys...as long as you don't tell them I sent you! ;)

Matt

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