Free rules please...
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In article <6lfsp4$vnh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mr...@my-dejanews.com says...
>
>Hi everyone,
>Where can I find a free medieval wargame ruleset on the net?
>Thanks in advance
>Ravi
>
>PS An excellent free ruleset for the American Civil War can be found at
>www.icenter.net/~gisby/rules.htm
>
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> In article <6lfsp4$vnh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mr...@my-dejanews.com says...
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what you say is true enough , but here in India there are no rules to pay for
and due to currency conversion problems you can't buy rules from the (say
)USA. regards ravi
Steve H.
free...@cheap.com wrote:
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> In article <6lfsp4$vnh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mr...@my-dejanews.com says...
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >Where can I find a free medieval wargame ruleset on the net?
> >Thanks in advance
> >Ravi
> >
> >PS An excellent free ruleset for the American Civil War can be found at
> >www.icenter.net/~gisby/rules.htm
> >
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> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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> You get what you pay for.......
>
But more often you don't... I'm fairly fed up with paying big bucks for
rules that don't give me what I'm looking for. Ravi has a good point
(apart from the fact he's in India and can't buy any anyway!) the rules
available free on the web are the product of someone's time and effort,
why should their efforts be considered less than someone else's, just
because the other person is charging $20-30 a set, and printing them on
fancy paper?? Just my two pence...
Steve H.
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Dan Dionne
Steve H. wrote:
> > You get what you pay for.......
> >
>
> But more often you don't... I'm fairly fed up with paying big bucks for
> rules that don't give me what I'm looking for. Ravi has a good point
> (apart from the fact he's in India and can't buy any anyway!) the rules
> available free on the web are the product of someone's time and effort,
> why should their efforts be considered less than someone else's, just
> because the other person is charging $20-30 a set, and printing them on
> fancy paper?? Just my two pence...
The web is a good distribution method for rules sets, and I suspect
we'll see more such rather than less. I intend to distribute my
ancients rules on the web. However, I find it hard to criticize anyone
who's published a set of rules through conventional methods. Nobody
ever got rich selling wargames rules, particularly since the writer
typically gets only 20% of the list price per sale. Tough to break even,
much less turn a profit.
--Dan Dionne, ddi...@us.ibm.com
Bill Armintrout
On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 05:28:03 GMT, mr...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>Where can I find a free medieval wargame ruleset on the net?
There is a medieval rules list over at TMP:
http://www.jps.net/minipage/rules/med/land.html
Looks like three of them are available online - Bad Endings, Rules
According to Ral, and Rencounter. Robert's Rules of Warfare were being
distributed as shareware, but are now switching back to normal
distribution.
DLCRCF
Clay,
On one of your posts about unpainted minis you said use a bigger brush.
What size do you suggest? Presently I use a #3 for 15mm and sometimes a #2 for
the finer work. On 25mm I use a #3 and a 3/0 for blacklining. What are your
thoughts? Anyone else out there have any comments? Since most of us want
painted minis maybe we could talk about techniqe.
Thanks
Dan
Richard Kropp
mr...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> what you say is true enough , but here in India there are no rules to pay for
> and due to currency conversion problems you can't buy rules from the (say
> )USA. regards ravi
>
That's because you bad boys keep firing off nukes.
good (free) gaming-
Rich
mr...@my-dejanews.com
Hi all,
there is an *amazingly* good free Renaissance ruleset at
http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/jacksopb/october/vgf.htm
Enjoy!!!
Ravi
In article <6lj7f2$2btm$4...@news.uk.ibm.com>,
"Steve H." <stevej_hicks@uk.*ibm*.com> wrote:
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> free...@cheap.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <6lfsp4$vnh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mr...@my-dejanews.com says...
> > >
> > >Hi everyone,
> > >Where can I find a free medieval wargame ruleset on the net?
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >Ravi
> > >
> > >PS An excellent free ruleset for the American Civil War can be found at
> > >www.icenter.net/~gisby/rules.htm
> > >
> > >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> > >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
> >
> > You get what you pay for.......
> >
>
> But more often you don't... I'm fairly fed up with paying big bucks for
> rules that don't give me what I'm looking for. Ravi has a good point
> (apart from the fact he's in India and can't buy any anyway!) the rules
> available free on the web are the product of someone's time and effort,
> why should their efforts be considered less than someone else's, just
> because the other person is charging $20-30 a set, and printing them on
> fancy paper?? Just my two pence...
>
> Steve H.
>
> --
>
> (spam proofing: remove the *'s in the id. above when replying by email)
>
mr...@my-dejanews.com
Thanks for the pointer Bill(btw you are doing an *excellent* job.Great site!)
But I was looking for something with a little more depth(Bad Endings , for
one ,seems a little *too* light hearted -- this is *not* a flame , just an
opinion) and I want to fight medium sized/large battles , not skirmishes. If
you come across anything please post / send me email. I'll keep visitingyour
site regularly. btw I got a *great* free Renaisssance ruleset (Virtue against
Fury)thanks to your website. Thanks Again, Ravi
In article <357db115...@client.se.news.psi.net>,
barmi...@psygnosis.com wrote:
>
> On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 05:28:03 GMT, mr...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >Where can I find a free medieval wargame ruleset on the net?
>
> There is a medieval rules list over at TMP:
> http://www.jps.net/minipage/rules/med/land.html
>
> Looks like three of them are available online - Bad Endings, Rules
> According to Ral, and Rencounter. Robert's Rules of Warfare were being
> distributed as shareware, but are now switching back to normal
> distribution.
>
>
Ray Rangel
Holy smokes, brushes that size would drive me nuts. My "normal" brush
for 15s is a 3/0. My favorite brush is the Citidel Fine Detail Brush
which is about that size. Inking takes a 5/0 or 10/0. Really big areas
like sheilds takes the Citidel "standard" brush. Dry brushing takes
the Citidel "small dry brush".
Brushes are largely a personal matter. Find the sizes that do what you
want them to, when you want them. Try a bunch and don't be afraid to
"get small".
Dan Dionne
Ray Rangel wrote:
[a request for a discussion of brush sizes]
I use a #1 for "basic" painting and a 3/0 for details, for both 25mm and
15mm. I just picked up a 10/0 by mail order and can see some
possibilities, particularly since I'm painting early Medes and Skythians
in 15mm...
For drybrushing, I use old brushes that have given up the ghost. I've
had a lot of success with drybrushing flesh tones using an old 3/0 that
never developed the proper point.
I think the key is the point of the brush, not the size. And you can't
always tell which brushes will give you a good point under use. The
advantage I see to the really small brushes is that they are pretty much
all point to start with.
--Dan Dionne, ddi...@us.ibm.com
Ed Allen
>> > You get what you pay for.......
>> >
>>
>> But more often you don't...
...
>
...
> Nobody
>ever got rich selling wargames rules, particularly since the writer
>typically gets only 20% of the list price per sale. Tough to break even,
>much less turn a profit.
>
>--Dan Dionne, ddi...@us.ibm.com
In fact, that's one of the two reasons I distribute mine on the web. I
don't want to sink a big investment into getting them into print. The
other is I like to keep fiddling with them, and having them on the web
means I don't have to get them "perfect" for setting them in print. I can
keep twiddling and just email out a notice to the people interested in
them every once in awhile as I get another rev in.
I don't have anything against people selling their rules. I've bought a
zillion sets and only played a fraction of them.
Ed Allen
http://tetrad.stanford.edu
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Programmer/System Administrator
Center For DNA Sequencing and Technology
Stanford University
al...@sequence.stanford.edu
Clay Smith
In article <199806092236...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
dlc...@aol.com (DLCRCF) writes:
> Clay,
> On one of your posts about unpainted minis you said use a bigger brush.
> What size do you suggest? Presently I use a #3 for 15mm and sometimes a #2 for
> the finer work. On 25mm I use a #3 and a 3/0 for blacklining. What are your
> thoughts? Anyone else out there have any comments? Since most of us want
> painted minis maybe we could talk about techniqe.
> Thanks
> Dan
Actually, Dan, those brushes are exactly what I use. a #4 round is
useful, and a 10/0 is great for the tiniest details, but a #3 is my
main brush....(and I use a #1 for smaller stuff).
Clay
Insert silly tag line here..
DDetmer89
I really don't think that the size of a brush makes much difference. The point
of the brush is the determining factor in painting. The bigger brushes hold
more paint. Also don't wet the brush to bring it to a point, pig bristles will
point when wet. Just slightly damp. Good brushes are made so that the hairs
form to the inside. Thats why only buy good brushes, and take care of them....
Incidently, I also make my living painting. Pictures, not figures.
Clay Smith
In article <199806172000...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
ddet...@aol.com (DDetmer89) writes:
Oh, I thought you meant HOUSES. (Hah! How do you base them?)
Bigger brushes let you paint faster. Faster is better. Slower is
'paint by numbers'.
DDetmer89
Clay, you sound very much like a little kid that is afraid he's just not good
enough to make it in the real world. If you do make your living painting
figures, just how good of a living is it. It must be nice living at home with
mommy and daddy to support you.
When somebody asks for help like the person who started all this, he wanted
help not some smart ass to critize the world because they have a complex. Grow
up child.
Clay Smith
In article <199806191321...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
ddet...@aol.com (DDetmer89) writes:
Wow! What a great post. Fortunately I *know* the type of answers that
the posters expected from me...(and yes...I believe I answered the
brush question too...)
MRTINJ
>ddet...@aol.com (DDetmer89) writes:
>
>
>> Clay, you sound very much like a little kid that is afraid he's just not
>good
>> enough to make it in the real world. If you do make your living painting
>> figures, just how good of a living is it.
Actually, "friend", Clay doesn't make his living painting figures, I do. How
good a living? How do you want to measure that? Money? Personal happiness?
Self-fulfillment? Afraid of the real-world? Hardly.
>It must be nice living at home with
>> mommy and daddy to support you.
"Friend", I haven't lived with my mommy and daddy for over tweny years. I'm 39
years old and if you were here in front of me I would slap your jaw if you were
any part a man. But of course, you wouldn't put yourself in front of me - you'd
rather hide behind some silly name on the internet and just snipe.
>> When somebody asks for help like the person who started all this, he
>wanted
>> help not some smart ass to critize the world because they have a complex.
>Grow
>> up child.
I'm assuming you must have missed the twelve pages or so I posted trying to
help Mr. LaPlaca and his painting problem. Or else you have confused me with
Clay Smith - but he doesn't need my help to defend himself.
Mr. DDetmer89 (whatever the hell that means) you are way out of line on this.
And since you have been busily insulting me (Clay lives in Texas with a wife
and two daughters, while I make my living running a painting business), I take
that personal.
Martin J. Blow
Ed Allen
>Mr. DDetmer89 (whatever the hell that means)
It means he's a poor, downtrodden AOL user that doesn't get to keep his
username to himself, but has to share it with lots of other people
separated only by numbers. One day they will all rise up like The
Prisoner, and decry being numbers not men, and change their ISPs. Or
something...
>you are way out of line on this.
>And since you have been busily insulting me (Clay lives in Texas with a wife
>and two daughters, while I make my living running a painting business), I take
>that personal.
>
>Martin J. Blow
FLAME FEST COMMENTS -----
He just got the two of you confused. Clay's been trolling a lot lately and
got the guy annoyed. Clay annoys lots of people. Some of them blow up in
silly, though colorful, ways. You haven't said anything to annoy anybody,
except that other fella who for no discernable reason took your initial
how-to suggestions as if you were proclaiming The-One-True-Way. Detmer's
insults to you were collateral damage from lashing out while not paying
attention.
Nice painting hints, BTW, Martin. You gonna put them up on a web page?
Hey Detmer, how about just apologizing to Martin and killfiling Clay's
postings so you don't raise your blood pressure any more?
REAL CONTENT ----
As to size of brush, a big brush with a small point is better than a small
brush for most things, as it holds more paint, so needs dipping less
often, has a smaller drying surface to volume ratio, etc. When their tip
goes, they remain useful for blocking in big areas for awhile and later
drybrushing. The smaller ones are better when you have to paint down into
a narrow space like behind a shield or between a gun and a guy's chest and
the sides of that fatter brush carrying the reservoir of extra paint might
touch something you don't want painted while you are trying to reach the
desired spot with the tip. Small brushes are also a bit more controllable
when using thin stuff like inks and stains that can flood out from an
overloaded big brush and surprise you.
Of course Clay prefers big brushes. He's from Texas after all. ;-)
Ed
--
Ed Allen
Programmer/System Administrator
Center For DNA Sequencing and Technology
Stanford University
al...@sequence.stanford.edu
Joanne Peterson
> The web is a good distribution method for rules sets, and I suspect
> we'll see more such rather than less. I intend to distribute my
> ancients rules on the web. ...
>
> --Dan Dionne, ddi...@us.ibm.com
Ravi:
You might want to check the Wrexham Wargames Society at
hhtp://freespace.virgin.net/pete.jones/dispatches.htm. They have a
range of free rules sets from mediaeval through to science fiction as
well as links to other sets.
good luck
Jim McDaniel
mr...@my-dejanews.com
Thanks Joanne(Jim --??!!) WWS is a great site!Lots of people have responded
to my query and I am receiving tonnes of help. Hooray for the net!!! ravi
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