Any suggestions would be appreciated for particular paints and/or techniques
for obtaining good looking mail in 20 mm. Tips regarding 15mm would also be
appreciated.
Thanks
Joseph
He either fears his fate too much, or his desserts are small,
Who will not put it to the touch, to win or loose it all.
(but remember he wrote that in a love poem)
I use Citadel/Games Workshop's "Bolt Gun" as a first coat - its a dark
metalic colour. Then dry brush on GW's "Chainmail" paint.
Duncan
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mjc
Joseph,
Check out a color in the craft paints called "Black Pearl"
mettalics. This is perfect for the "blackened mail" effect. It also
works great for gunmetal or cast iron.
Tom Bryant
President, HMGS-GL
How do you find the Vallejo metalic? I've only a few of their paints so far,
but none are metalic.
Duncan
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Do a web search for 'vallejo paints'. There are quite a few retailers who sell
this brand of paints. I have only dealt with US online retailers so can not
recommend any outside the country. But have had good success dealing with Chaos
Mail Order, Albino Rhino, and Fantization. Fantization and Chaos are normally
well stocked, including the metallics. Albino Rhino, can be a bit hit or miss
with stock, but is a good service otherwise.
My own preferences for painting are gun metal over a black base with a dry
brush of natural steel on highlighed areas (shoulders, etc.)
Black undercoat and gently scribe it with a soft graphite pencil. It gives
a very satisfying metallic effect, much better than the "pixellated" silver
effect you get from most paints. Alternatively you could try the Vallejo
Alcohol-soluble paints. I understand they require some practice but give a
very good effect.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated for particular paints and/or
> techniques for obtaining good looking mail in 20 mm. Tips regarding
> 15mm would also be appreciated.
If you look under paint on http://www.rgmw.org you'll see a list of
paints and manufacturers that I've started to compile.
Test technique I can suggest is to paint a silver or other apropriate
metalic colour like GW's Boltgun metal and then wash with thinned black
or dark brown ink. I find that an ink wash rather than trying to
drybrush over a black undercoat copes better with defects in castings
and other weird effects due to the peculiar nature of the way chainmail
is sculpted.
--
rob singers
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I like to spray the figure black and drybrush with a silver-black mixture.
This picks up the rings and looks great, with minimal effort on my part. The
smaller the figure, the more silver I put in the mixture.
Another technique I use on 25mm figures is to drybrush with gunmetal (or a
similar color), then lightly drybrush with silver. I don't know how well
this would work with 15mm figures.
-Ty
Paulonious
Despite the fact the paint pigment is fine, it covers remarkably well.
The only color I have a gripe with is the Yellow. However, in all
fairness, there are very few yellows that cover in one coat on larger
surfaces.
What I really like about these is the "squirt" bottle. This allows me
to squeeze a small drop on a figure or palate and away you go. No fuss,
no muss. I just apply it directly to the aircraft when doing cammo on
my WWI planes.
mjc
I have some of their tubes, and agree with the comment on the yellow. The
eye-dropped bottles are great, easy to shake, store and don't dry out. My
cheap palette is a peice of foam core.
I got mine from Caliver Books here in the UK. I based by order on the
painting guide set up by David Imrie of the League of Ausburg. The metalics
I have are GW. I use their Chaos Black for undercoat, and Colour Party for
some others (their yellow and reds are good).
Duncan
> I have some of their tubes, and agree with the comment on the yellow. The
> eye-dropped bottles are great, easy to shake, store and don't dry out. My
> cheap palette is a peice of foam core.
The yellow is better than any other acrylic yellow I have tho'. That being
Modern GW, Old GW\Coat d'Arms, Tamiya, Ral Partha, Windsor and Newton, and
generic student acrylics.
Sounds like you've had the same search I had for a decent yellow - do you
have the same difficulty with reds?
Duncan
> Sounds like you've had the same search I had for a decent yellow - do you
> have the same difficulty with reds?
FWIW, the best acrylic red I've used was the Games Workshop red -- though it
comes in those horrid jars. The best red period that I've ever used is the
Testors enamel Flat Red.
--Ty
I can't figure out if I prefer the Colour Party MA12 "Tunic Red" to the
Games Workshop. I use both - CP for thickness of colour in small areas, and
GW for covering areas.
I haven't used enamels for years as the cleaning fluids (white spirits) gave
me migraines.
Duncan
> Sounds like you've had the same search I had for a decent yellow - do you
> have the same difficulty with reds?
The Vallejo red I have is excellent. As part of a trade I picked up an old
pack of GW (Coat d'arms) Paints which I ressurrected with a little bit of
boiled water and the red from that is great too.
Generally tho' I basecoat with a GW colour and then I use Windsor & Newton
artists paints to get exact shadings. It makes blending and fades much
easier too. Using artists acrylics if you're used to them has a lot of
advantages. Maybe not at a smaller scale than 28mm.
Testors Pla Enamel! How many pleasant evenings I've spent huffing the fumes
from that stuff, while I daubed globs of it onto soft plastic figures and
styrene kits. I gave it up because the shelf life is so limited. I just turn
my back for a year or two, and the paint congeals into a rubbery lump. Do
you have a technique for preventing Testors enamel from solidifying in those
blessed little glass jars?
Not really, though I have not had that problem so long as I (a) clean the
mouth of the bottle and (b) keep the pasteboard seal in the cap. I also do
*not* use the caps for mixing paint; I try to keep the threads on the bottle
caps clean of paint. Thta way, I have pain that lasts years and years.
One thing I do like to do is put some lead sinkers into the paint. Then, I
can shake up the bottle and they will be quickly mixed. Do not use BB's --
they will eventually rust.
--Ty
> One thing I do like to do is put some lead sinkers into the paint. Then, I
> can shake up the bottle and they will be quickly mixed. Do not use BB's --
> they will eventually rust.
I use cheap plastic beads. They're cheap and there's no risk of them
reacting with the paint. IIRC correctly Lead Oxide is white and soluble in
water and alcohol and therefore might actually lighten your paint.
tim
John Secker wrote:
> Coat d'arms do the original GW paints - in the original flip-top lids.
> Recommended to anyone who still misses the old style GW paints.
snip
> John Secker
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