Napoleonic Rules rec
Madd66
I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
battles, Corps or Army level?
Also what companies does anyone suggest for high quality 15mm Napoleonic
figs.?
WRD13
You said/asked:
Rules - Avalon Hill's "Napoleon's Battles" Easy to learn, commonly used,
good details without getting bogged down with minutia. OBs for many well
know battles. With a little research, it is easy to do your own OBs for
battles not included. Also comes with, and can be played with cardboard
counters (easily xeroxed on various colored paper for more counters) until
you have miniatures, (or when you have younger, less dexterous, or fumble
fingered players).
Miniatures - Old Glory - Excellent detailing, wide variety of positions
and nationality
/uniform designs, good volume of pieces
for the money.
Essex - Good detailing, very wide variety of positons
and nationality/
uniform design.
nuk...@worldnet.att.net
Madd66 wrote:
>
> I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
> anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
> battles, Corps or Army level?
> Also what companies does anyone suggest for high quality 15mm Napoleonic
> figs.?
If you're just starting -
for rules try Shako, it has system rules mechanics for play at
regimental units and divisional units [as well as 7 years war
supplement]. The latter version of play permits you to start playing
large battles with a minimum of troops/castings as compared to other
major set of rules.
For miniatures -
best buy per casting with a good degree of quality, go for Old Glory.
For a listing of most of what's available go to -
http://www.zianet.com/signifer/signifer.html
Good luck.
DAW
david...@wcb.state.ny.us
In article <19970602023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
mad...@aol.com (Madd66) wrote:
>
> I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
> anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
> battles, Corps or Army level?
Shako, Volley & Bayonet (VB), Le Petite Emperor (LPE), Napoleon's Battles
(NB). LPE uses Corps as the base unit size. The rest normally use
brigades (although I believe Shako has an alternate scale for regimental
level battles). Shako and NB are more "traditional" in that a unit (say,
brigade) is made of several stands of figures, and you can make line,
column and square formations on the table top. In VB and LPE, the base
unit (brigade in VB) is 1 stand. It is assumed that the brigade is in
the most advantageous formation for whatever it's doing at the time. In
both VB and LPE the number of figures on a stand is not important. VB
and LPE are "fast play" systems (I have refought Quatre Bras in VB in
under 2 hours and that included having the rules explained to me).
NB is probably THE most popular ruleset today for Napoleonic battles.
I suggest you check the Miniatures Page (http://www.eden.com/~tmp) for
info on all these rulesets.
> Also what companies does anyone suggest for high quality 15mm Napoleonic
> figs.?
Dunno - I use plastic Airfix 20mm figs. Again, check the Miniatures Page.
--Dave
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Davidkvh
I would go with Napoleon's Battles from TAHGC. This set of rules is
designed for battles of 70, 000 plus troops.
General Barbou
Sacha Gerrish
I have to say that Valmy to Waterloo is the set to go with. Forget the
rest.
Sacha
P.S. Old Glory miniatures without question.
James Baker
Madd66 wrote:
>
> I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
> anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
> battles, Corps or Army level?
> figs.?
learn I learn how to play in less than one night of playing....
For Mini go with Old Glory. They have a full line of Napoleonic
figures. Russians, French, British, and allied forces.
Le Vangeure Masseké
Large scale battle
Jim Guetz & Scott Bowdens "Empire V" from Emperor Press
Miniatures: THE best AB miniatures from WargameSouth
Madd66 <mad...@aol.com> a écrit dans l'article
<19970602023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
James Baker
Le Vangeure Masseké wrote:
>
> Large scale battle
> Jim Guetz & Scott Bowdens "Empire V" from Emperor Press
>
>
battle with them..... N Battles from Avalon Hill are easer to work with
and the battle are quicker. The group I game with Did Waterloo over one
weekend.... This time the French won because of a British Mistake....
JS
Le Vangeure Masseké <inf...@mail.pf> wrote in article
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> Miniatures: THE best AB miniatures from WargameSouth
IMHO:
While AB miniatures are good, they are more like 20's than 15's. I would
recommend Battle Honors or Old Glory. BH are better, OG's are cheaper
(although I understand the BHs have come down in price since being acquired
by a new manufacturer. I have not seen the new ones since I am under a
marital injunction to paint at least half the lead I own before buying
more). You could also try Essex, though they are a bit dumpy. I saw some
really good ones at Cold Wars but am not sure of the name. I think they
were called Chariot. Finally, steer clear of Minifigs (they look like
chickens with guns) and Naismith (which are small and lack detail).
JS
YNosdod
<<<From: mad...@aol.com (Madd66)
Date: 2 Jun 1997 02:36:28 GMT
Message-ID: <19970602023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
battles, Corps or Army level?
Also what companies does anyone suggest for high quality 15mm Napoleonic
figs.? >>>
Napoleonic Rules???
There are lots of rule systems... I favor Napoleon's Battles sufficiently
to remount thousands of figures to that system from EMPIRE, and I
regularly run NB games at historical and mixed conventions...
I believe sincerely, however, that there all rules sets have their
strengths that deserve to be considered in certain circumstances depending
on what level of combat you're interested in, and what scale of battle
you're trying to represent...
You'll find many gamers are very "intolerant" of others than their
favorite rule set... Simple politics... If you want to play ALOT, play
the system that your neighbors are playing, so they'll let you play with
'em!!! If you feel there is another rule set worth considering, keep it a
secret... They'll never ever understand!!!
Figures???
Old Glory is the most available line, and as you see, the most popular...
AB, Imperial and Battle Honors are similar in size, and great figures,
too... Minifigs has recently rebuilt their line according to their
advertisements, and the ones I've seen are quite nicely done... Painted
armies are available at very high prices, but an occasional high dollar
high quality painted unit can become a model to paint from (like a
quality standard)...
By the way... Welcome to the hobby... It's really alot of fun, if you
don't take it too seriously... Keep telling yourself, "It's just a hobby
for gosh sakes!!!"
GameMaster...
.
.
.
tvtom
Madd66 <mad...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970602023...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
> I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
> anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
> battles, Corps or Army level?
> For my opinion, I will answer both of your questions. As far as the book
is concerned, I would offer up David Chandler's Campaigns of Napoleon. Not
only is the considered by most to be the foremost total account of events,
it is still readily avaialable through the large chain bookstores. It
retails around $70 dollars US and is worth every penny.
As for your rule question, I would suggest (and suspect I'll get bombarded
for this) Avalon Hills Napoleon's Battles. They play smoothly, offer a
large scale (Infantry is 120:1) and allow for the scale of combat you
probably desire. Most people who read general histories enjoy playing at
least corp on corp battles. With these rules you will be able to do this in
a relatively short period of time. The detractors of these rules tend to
think they know far more about battalion level tactics than any person left
living today should. No, Napoleons Battles will not show the difference
between British 95th Rifles using the mallet to ram home their shots in
their Baker's Rifles or the inferiority of Northern European cavalry
remounts due to the lack of fresh grain. They will however allow you to
fight a battle to a reasonable outcome. If you have any more questions feel
free to write me at tv...@texas.net.
Tom
Bob Yager
I agree with you, Tom. Napoleon's Battles is the Best. I have played
Napoleonics since 1971. I have used Charles Grant's Rules; Tricolor;
Column, Line, Square, ; Empire I,II,III,IV & V, Shako and NB. NB allows
me to make the Generals' decisions. The rest bore me to tears with
Sgt.Major, Lieutant, Captain, Major, and Colonel decisions. Frankly, as a
General, I don't give a damn about the lt coy formation in the 2nd bn fo
the 31st Line reg't in the 2 div of III Corps.
--
Bob Yager
ncole
tvtom wrote:
>
> The detractors of these rules tend to think they know far more about battalion level tactics than any person left living today should.
>
Just how much should someone living today know about Napoleonic battalion
level tactics?? Incidently, did you hear about the 200 hundred year old
French veteran found living on the Riviera living on nothing but cheap
wine, bread and escargot?? Neither did I. But I'm sure someone must be
able to regress back to a past life and remember Waterloo like it was
yesterday. Seriously though, when are the French going to clone Napoleon
and bring the French army back to something that will have all of Europe
quaking in fear??
Mark
Dan Brown
> I am looking to get into Napoleonic Miniatures probably 15mm scale. Can
> anyone reccommend a good rules system for fighting fairly large scale
> battles, Corps or Army level?
> Also what companies does anyone suggest for high quality 15mm Napoleonic
> figs.?
For figures, Old Glory is your best bet. Good looking castings, nice
animation and you can't beat the price ($20 for 100 foot or 30 horse). As
far as rules go, I recommend Valmy to Waterloo. It is the best model for
the Napoleonic wars I have seen yet.
Dan Brown
dbr...@mc.net
Sacha Gerrish
Old Glory figs. and Valmy to Waterloo rules.
Andrew Kinnie
Greetings,
For me, I like From Valmy to Waterloo rules, although (because?) they
provide more tactical detail, and require more figures than NB (1:60 like
Empire and most other rules these days). I guess it depends on what you
want. If you want to try and fight Waterloo in a night, FVTW isn't for
you. Personally, I think it gives a good mix as a general purpose rules
set.
However, if you like to see historical formations, battalion columns,
etc NB won't do it.
Andrew Kinnie
OutlandOH
Have you seen the new Minifigs? I have been REALLY impressed at their
major revisions. I am about to start my new (third time) Russian Army of
1813 for Napoleoon's Battles. Anyway, Minifigs has just started to
package their figures in a new bulk pack that is a good deal: 120-140
infantry or 70 (+) Cav for 20.00$. Chris von Fahnestock
Mike Estey
In article <19970612170...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, outl...@aol.com
says...
Have they redone there whole line or just the Napoleonics? Are you ordering
direct from Ral Partha or some other source?
ABTreon
I agree with John.Although NB is more widely played,Volley and
Bayonet is as realistic,no more complex and moves twice as fast because it
is one hour turns.As a plus for beginners you can play with as few as 1(!)
figure per brigade.Think how many hours you would need to play Waterloo
with a system like Empire
OutlandOH
To my knowledge they have re-done the entire Napoleonics AND ACW lines.
You can get them directly from Minifigs (co-located with Ral Partha, so
you can use the same telephone numbers and address). Chris von Fahnestock
tvtom
ABTreon <abt...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970616135...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> I am a supporter of Napoleon's Battles but I would love to try Volley and
Bayonet. I am always interested in miniature rules that are able to handle
larger engagements. As for Andrew's remark about seeing historical
formations in 60:1, I would charge him to read "With Musket, Cannon and
Sword" along with other good primary sources. I have yet to find a set of
tactical rules that I would consider definitive a that scale. The older I
get and the more primary source reading I do, I realize more and more that
we really have very little idea what actually happened at that level. If
you want the author of Valmy to Waterloos' opinion, or Buck Sudru's from
Battles for Empire, or (God forbid) the most uninformed man on the Planet
Scotty "Nuclear Powered Old Gurd" Bowden's opinion from Empire 27th
edition, then play 60:1. It may sound like a cop out, but I appreciate
larger rules that don't bother with exact formations. These rules authors'
aren't pretentious enough to pretend they are the ultimate "Chef de
Battalion".
Jim Getz
tvtom (tv...@texas.net) wrote:
: I am a supporter of Napoleon's Battles but I would love to try Volley and
: Bayonet. I am always interested in miniature rules that are able to handle
: larger engagements. As for Andrew's remark about seeing historical
: formations in 60:1, I would charge him to read "With Musket, Cannon and
: Sword" along with other good primary sources. I have yet to find a set of
: tactical rules that I would consider definitive a that scale. The older I
: get and the more primary source reading I do, I realize more and more that
: we really have very little idea what actually happened at that level. If
: you want the author of Valmy to Waterloos' opinion, or Buck Sudru's from
: Battles for Empire, or (God forbid) the most uninformed man on the Planet
: Scotty "Nuclear Powered Old Gurd" Bowden's opinion from Empire 27th
: edition, then play 60:1. It may sound like a cop out, but I appreciate
: larger rules that don't bother with exact formations. These rules authors'
: aren't pretentious enough to pretend they are the ultimate "Chef de
: Battalion".
Gosh if you are going to get testy, at least you could spell the name
right! It's "Chef de bataillon," at least in the "primary" sources I've
read, course I could be wrong and just pretending that it is spelled that
way.
Jim Getz
Author, Chef de bataillon
WRD13
My second comment on this subject.
I've seen quite a bit of pro and con about all sorts of different rules
sets. I use Napoleon's Battles. No matter what set you use, unless you
are using 1 base per division, battles like Austerlitz, Borodino,
Waterloo, or (heaven forbid) Leipzig, are going to take up a lot of space
and many figures. NB lends itself very well to almost any size Napoleonic
engagement (excepting Leipzig which doesn't work very easily in any scale
under divisional). For the smaller battles, if you like lots of figures,
you can always halve the representation size of the units, and double the
other factors, thus doubling your figures needed. Or vice versa for
monster battles. But generally speaking small battles such as Vimerio,
Corunna, or Quatra Bras work just as well as the larger ones.
Your best bet however, is play the different rule sets with others who
have them and decide for yourself.
Robert J. Rodgers
Ooohhhh!!!!!!!!!
Is this going to be another "My Nappy rule set is better than yours"
argument?
If so I hope it can be as friendly as the last one. So, with tongue
firmly in cheek...
Napoleons Battles sucks!
What? You require PRIMARY source backup for that statement?
Well, I have some I'm sure. You will just have to take my word for it.
I used to play Legacy Of Glory but......not anymore.
I used to play Empire but.......my calculator broke around revision 4.
Shako is too juvenile.
Chef de Bataillion really needs 25mms (I think, I've never played them
you see. But that didn't stop me from offering an uninformed opinion).
Covered In Glory is too slowwwwww.
Volley & Bayonet doesn't quite cut it.
From Valmy to Waterloo has too many charts.
Column Line & Square was fun but too bloody.
And those are the ones that I consider pretty good.
Like most, I have to say, That my home-made rules are by far the best.
Being an expert because I have read a few books on the subject, I must
admit that many times my rules don't demonstrate what history would
seem to indicate. However, I just ignore those little episodes, like
any GOOD game designer should do and continue on.
Seriously, I was involved in the last BIG flame war on this subject
and while it was somewhat enjoyable, nobody changed their minds.
Later,
Bob
Edward J. Lizak
On 17 Jun 1997 03:26:14 GMT, "tvtom" <tv...@texas.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I am a supporter of Napoleon's Battles but I would love to try Volley and
>Bayonet. I am always interested in miniature rules that are able to handle
>larger engagements. As for Andrew's remark about seeing historical
>formations in 60:1, I would charge him to read "With Musket, Cannon and
>Sword" along with other good primary sources. I have yet to find a set of
>tactical rules that I would consider definitive a that scale. The older I
>get and the more primary source reading I do, I realize more and more that
>we really have very little idea what actually happened at that level. If
>you want the author of Valmy to Waterloos' opinion, or Buck Sudru's from
>Battles for Empire, or (God forbid) the most uninformed man on the Planet
>Scotty "Nuclear Powered Old Gurd" Bowden's opinion from Empire 27th
>edition, then play 60:1. It may sound like a cop out, but I appreciate
>larger rules that don't bother with exact formations. These rules authors'
>aren't pretentious enough to pretend they are the ultimate "Chef de
>Battalion".
>
It's been awhile since I played NB but it seems to me they are as
concerned with formations as most 1:60 games. You have brigades as
your manuever elements and you still have to decide when to go into
square, line, and column.
I enjoy NB as a game (like I enjoy some of the other games mentioned)
but it has always seemed to me they played like any other battalion
level game with the odd things explained by the scale being brigade
level. (By odd things I mean flank attacks not being very helpful,
etc.)
I can't think of one thing that really feels like you have brigades on
the table.
-EJL
Bryan Kelly Henderson
I haven't played Napoleonics in years but continue to maintain my
interest by visiting this group periodically. This is one of the first
times I've seen a refence to Legacy of Glory which was a welcome
improvement in the games I played using the Empire editions. Anyone
care to fill me in on the their opinion of LoG compared to more recent
rule sets?
Bryan Henderson
Miworld Communications
Dale & Katrina Williams
Bryan:
I really like Legacy of Glory. A very unquie game turn that works very
well. Unfortunatly, the rules (1st edition I cannot comment on any
other editions) are poorly organizated. I think the perfect rule set
would be LOG turn system with some of the other mechanics simplified.
(lightbulb just went off over my head<G>)
Just one gamer's opinion:
Dale Williams
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Jay Martino
"tvtom" <tv...@texas.net> wrote:
> I would charge him to read "With Musket, Cannon and
>Sword" along with other good primary sources. I have yet to find a set of
>tactical rules that I would consider definitive a that scale.
"...along with other primary sources..." implies that the named work
is a primary source. It isn't (which doesn't mean that it's not good,
but it does mean that Noseworthy does more research than you, and
actually uses real primary sources).
Jay
"Life. Hate it or loath it, you can't ignore it".
Remove the * from the "reply to:' field when replying
by e-mail.
Jim Getz
I am posting this for Pete who is having problems getting it posted - as
am I! Maybe it will work this time! Jim
Jim, could you please post this follow up on rgmh for me..
I canna'
thanx
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From: tvtom (tv...@texas.net)
Subject: Re: Napoleonic Rules rec
tvtom (tv...@texas.net) wrote:
>I am a supporter of Napoleon's Battles <snip>
>read "With Musket, Cannon and Sword" along with other good primary
sources.
<snip>
>The older I get and the more primary source reading I do,
>I realize more and more that
>we really have very little idea what actually happened at that level.
Now Tom,
please,
let's give these guys a break,
I too 'enjoy' NB
[and in fact I introduced it 'appreciatively' to Jim Getz and many others]
but they are *all* games,
and are *all* written by fellow gamers,
who are *all* very good fellows,
and who *all* support the hobby we enjoy.
"can't we all just get along?"
oh!
as far as "primary sources" are concerned...
unless you read French, Russian or Mercer's Memoirs ...
your aren't reading actual "PRIMARY sources" ...
Nosworthy ["With Musket, Cannon and Sword"] is as "secondary" as they get
(sorry), as is Keegan, Chandler, Petrie etc. since they weren't actually
there, Blaize, Mercer and Wellington were.. those are Primary.
an example:
Q. Pete Panzeri's _Little BigHorn 1876_?
A. Secondary! [only using Primary (archaeology reports etc) sources.]
Pete Panzeri's _Ghazlani 1991_ ???
Primary! [Panzeri was there, took part in the battle, and recorded the
command net traffic, other primary sources.]
I guess it's just a definition, but it *was* your main point, and you missed
it.
Too bad too, because it was a good point, one with which I agree...and worth
repeating:
"> we really have very little idea what actually happened at that level."
or rather, my spin:
we [can only "simulate"] very little of what actually happened at that
level.
thanks for the ear.
best,
=pete=
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U. S. Army, Infantry
Military History, The Ohio State University
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tvtom
Jim Getz <jg...@freenet.columbus.oh.us> wrote in article
<5olv7m$7...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>...
> I am posting this for Pete who is having problems getting it posted - as
> am I! Maybe it will work this time! Jim
>
> My error in typing. I didn't mean to suggest "With Musket..." was a
primary source. I should not have used the word "other". I am well aware of
what a primary source is. And yes, unless you are multi lingual, it is
very difficult.
Jeffrey Kimmel
Ive been following the Napoleonics rules debate pretty closely and Ive been
wondering, how do they compare in scale? I know NB is brigade level, but I
am wondering about other rules such as Shako, From Valmy to Waterloo, and
any other popular rules. Im considering getting into Napoleonics and Im
looking for battalion level rules. Thanks much for any help.
Jeff Kimmel
ujki...@mcs.drexel.edu
http://www.mcs.drexel.edu/~ujkimmel
Jay Martino
"tvtom" <tv...@texas.net> wrote:
>> My error in typing. I didn't mean to suggest "With Musket..." was a
>primary source. I should not have used the word "other". I am well aware of
>what a primary source is. And yes, unless you are multi lingual, it is
>very difficult.
>
Multi-lingual or not, it's still difficult, unless one's local library
has a good selection of primary works, or one is independently wealthy
enough to travel to where they're available (for the hobbiest, that
is).
Even given that, I don't know I'd have the patience, or could afford
the time, to do all that research when there are several major players
who've kindly provided good summaries.
See below.
Jeffrey Kimmel wrote:
> . . . Im considering getting into Napoleonics and Im
> looking for battalion level rules. Thanks much for any help.
>
Battalion-Level Napoleonics Rules (i.e. tactical level)
Covered With Glory Envoldson US
In the Grand Manner Gilder UK
General de Brigade Brown UK
Rusty's Rules RSM US
Playable Napoleonic Rules Edwards UK
WRG 1685 - 1845 UK
Newbury Napoleonics UK
Complete Brigadier US
Of all of these, I recommend General de Brigade. You
can get it from Partizan Press in the UK, or their distributor,
On Military Matters, New Jersey, in the US. Clean, simple,
quick, realistic. I altered the artillery rules from one gun
is 2 real guns (takes up a lot of space and models) to one
artillerist on a stand is two real guns; and made an English
distance chart. Otherwise it is great.
Covered with Glory - Buy it anyway, for the excellent
organizantial information in the back. Cons: a unit needs
3 turns to change formation, and lots and lots of charts.
In the Grand Manner - Reasonably good, but created casually,
with lots of holes and interpretations.
Rusty's Rules - These may be out of print.
PNR - Heavy focus on just the Penisula war. You have to
come up with rules for Russians, Austrians, etc.
WRG - Requires specialized basing for rules to work.
Deterministic combat results mean fast games.
Newbury - Allows tournament play. I find even the "Fast"
version horrendously complex.
CB - A very strange system I could never understand.
- Chris Salander
ABTreon
JEFF-Volley is 100yards to the inch,units are battlions,regiments or
(mainly) brigades depending on the era,& each turn is a whole hour so it
is for bigger battles.The designer has a site on the web which shows you
how to "scale down" the rules to fight slightly smaller battles(e.g.
Guilford Courthouse from AWI).I love this system.
Mark Cuomo
From Valmy to Waterloo, Legacy of Glory, and Empire V are all battalion
level games. By that I mean, the basic units are infantry battalions,
artillery batteries, and cavalry regiments. I believe the accepted term fo
these games is "Grand Tactical". All share a common mounting scheme
(Empire's) for 15mm...
Robert Sendler
Jeffrey Kimmel <st91...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> wrote in article
<6197cd$161336.cb@XAVIER>...
> Ive been following the Napoleonics rules debate pretty closely and Ive
been
> wondering, how do they compare in scale? I know NB is brigade level, but
I
> am wondering about other rules such as Shako, From Valmy to Waterloo, and
> any other popular rules. Im considering getting into Napoleonics and Im
> looking for battalion level rules. Thanks much for any help.
>
Nobody has mentioned Piquet and its Les Grognard supplement. In place of a
long and possibly futile (it is a very different approach) it would be
simpler to check out the Web Site at user.aol.com/IMAC100/piquet.htm
and see if it might be something to try.
WKeyser
From Valmy to Waterloo allows for any basing size and is designed for 5mm
10mm or 15mm figures. Yes one of the mounting methods is the same as
Empire and another is the same as Napoleons Battles. The size of the base
does not matter to the game and yes it is grand tactical.
William
Jay Martino
"Mark Cuomo" <cuo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
VtW also makes allowance for NB basing. It works fine, as our group
has used VtW with mixed NB, VtW and a couple of oddities for basing.