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FASA's HeavyMetal

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Jul 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/23/00
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Camille Klein <cam...@rpex.net> wrote in message
>
> Type/Model: GNG-1S Klein
[snip]
> Armament:
> 36 Machine Guns

Having been on the receiving end of a similar 'Mech, but one which
was fast enough to close in to 1 hex range after winning
initiative, I can say that the design is /not/ useless. 72 points
of damage does /not/ feel good, especially if it manages to unload
them into your rear arc. Not to mention an average of 1 head hit
every turn it does its dirty deed.

But I wouldn't bother putting 600 rounds of MG ammo on it, as I
doubt it will last that long! (The one in our game very quickly
attracted a /bunch/ of fire.)

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Richard Raisley
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Rick Remer

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Jul 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/23/00
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If you _really_ want it to be useless, put the MG ammo in the CT.
Better yet, scatter 1/2 tons of it all over.

OK maybe that's more stupid than useless.

Just remember: Design advice from Clan Coyote is always good ;D

-Rick Steele

Camille Klein wrote:
>
> Before I start:
> If you're going to post comments on the usefulness/lack thereof of this
> design, I can tell you right now--don't bother. It's useless. It was
> designed to be useless. It was designed just to show my husband how truly
> useless the idea of a 'Mech with a buttload of machine guns can truly be.
> It was designed for mostly the same reason I designed the D1M-SUM: to be
> crack-smoking and not much else.
>
> So don't bother commenting on its uselessness or lack of effectiveness in
> combat, because you'll only make yourself look like an idiot and I am in
> less of a mood than usual to put up with idiocy.
>
> --Camille.
>
> ============================BEGIN=================================
>
> BattleMech Technical Readout
>
> Type/Model: GNG-1S Klein
> Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
> Config: Biped BattleMech
> Rules: Level 3, Standard design
>
> Mass: 100 tons
> Chassis: Standard
> Power Plant: 400 LTV Fusion
> Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
> Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
> Jump Jets: None
> Jump Capacity: 0 meters
> Armor Type: Standard
> Armament:
> 36 Machine Guns
> Manufacturer: (Unknown)
> Location: (Unknown)
> Communications System: (Unknown)
> Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
>
> ==Overview:==
> The GNG-1S Klein has been described as "More useless than
> useless." Designed with cheapness in mind, this 100-ton
> monstrosity is built for one purpose and one purpose only--to
> save money. Its many detractors would also say that it was built
> simply to sit around and be useless and annoying to those that
> have to spend money to garrison the damn thing.
>
> Needless to say, it was built by the low bidder.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Type/Model: GNG-1S Klein
> Mass: 100 tons
>
> Equipment: Crits Mass
> Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
> Engine: 400 7 52.50
> Walking MP: 4
> Running MP: 6
> Jumping MP: 0
> Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
> Gyro: 4 4.00
> Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
> Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
> Armor Factor: 152 pts Standard 0 9.50
>
> Internal Armor
> Structure Value
> Head: 3 9
> Center Torso: 31 23
> Center Torso (Rear): 8
> L/R Side Torso: 21 15/15
> L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
> L/R Arm: 17 16/16
> L/R Leg: 21 20/20
>
> Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 8 Machine Guns RA 0 600 11 7.00
> (Ammo Locations: 3 RT)
> 8 Machine Guns LA 0 8 4.00
> 7 Machine Guns RT 0 7 3.50
> 7 Machine Guns LT 0 7 3.50
> 1 Machine Gun CT 0 1 .50
> 1 Machine Gun
> 2 Machine Guns LL 0 2 1.00
> 2 Machine Guns RL 0 2 1.00
> --------------------------------------------------------
> TOTALS: 0 70 100.00
> Crits & Tons Left: 8 .00
>
> Calculated Factors:
> Total Cost: 9,901,334 C-Bills
> Battle Value: 891

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paul_...@my-deja.com

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Jul 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/24/00
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In article <uTEe5.4806$RG6.4...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

FASA's HeavyMetal <heavy...@att.net> wrote:
> Camille Klein <cam...@rpex.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Type/Model: GNG-1S Klein
> [snip]
> > Armament:
> > 36 Machine Guns
>
> But I wouldn't bother putting 600 rounds of MG ammo on it, as I
> doubt it will last that long! (The one in our game very quickly
> attracted a /bunch/ of fire.)

Saw an IS unit like this about 12 years ago called a Pit Viper. It
was a nasty customer at close range, but really, how close are you
going to get to this thing. Its like the old Charger arguement.
Besides, the Thunderbolts are back and shutdowns are back in
fashion...

Paul


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Demonic Gerbil

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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"Camille Klein" <cam...@rpex.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.13e40f028...@news-server.nc.rr.com...

> So don't bother commenting on its uselessness or lack of
effectiveness in
> combat, because you'll only make yourself look like an idiot and I
am in
> less of a mood than usual to put up with idiocy.

Actually I can see one use for this mech, killing Urbies or
Annihilators in a city. It's faster, better armored, and better armed
than an Urbie and faster than an Annihilator. ;-)

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---EDF
"Even if I go to hell, I will live until the end of the world,
and if the world does not come to an end, I will destroy
it with my own hands!"
-- Lacan from "Xenogears"

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John Campbell

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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Camille Klein wrote:
>
> Mass: 100 tons
> Chassis: Standard
> Power Plant: 400 LTV Fusion
[...]

> ==Overview:==
> The GNG-1S Klein has been described as "More useless than
> useless." Designed with cheapness in mind, this 100-ton
> monstrosity is built for one purpose and one purpose only--to
> save money.

Wait... "Designed with cheapness in mind", and you put a 400-ton-rated
engine in it? Drop it down to 1/2 and you'll save 5.8 mil right off the
bat. Then you can stuff in more machine guns, and it'll be even *more*
useless, 'cause it won't be fast enough to close with *anything*, not
even an Urbie. Maybe you could even go ICE for that real
bargain-basement performance... it's not like you need the heat sinks...

---
John Campbell
jcam...@lynn.ci-n.com

Tobias Wolter

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 01:09:08 GMT, Camille Klein <cam...@rpex.net>
wrote:

>If you're going to post comments on the usefulness/lack thereof of this
>design, I can tell you right now--don't bother. It's useless. It was
>designed to be useless. It was designed just to show my husband how truly
>useless the idea of a 'Mech with a buttload of machine guns can truly be.
>It was designed for mostly the same reason I designed the D1M-SUM: to be
>crack-smoking and not much else.
>

>So don't bother commenting on its uselessness or lack of effectiveness in
>combat, because you'll only make yourself look like an idiot and I am in
>less of a mood than usual to put up with idiocy.
>

>--Camille.

I'm not going to do this. But before I'll tell you this, I'll better
retreat back to the min. safety distance of an C.A.M.I.L.L.E.
You named the 'Mech after your last name. You said it's useless. Notice
something

*GD&RWTSOAHPGT*

SCNR, Tobias
--
"Paranoia means having all the facts"
- William S. Burroughs

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