[BT] What does ROM stand for?
NEil Phillips
anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for.. this is the
Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O" might stand for
"Obedience", as in the WoB section it says "Obedience (ROM)", but I'm not
sure if that fits with the Comstar description..
It's a little irritating when an abbreviation used so commonly isn't
explained.. same thing with Aerotech, not once in the book does it say what
NOE stands for (Nape of Earth, IE altitue 0 as it happens).
I guess they just assumed everyone would know.. but I'm fairly new to
Battletech, so I don't.
Any help appreciated :)
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NEil Phillips <phil...@webzone.net.au> wrote:
> I've just been reading through Field Manual: Comstar, and I can't find
> anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for.. this is
the
> Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O" might stand for
> "Obedience", as in the WoB section it says "Obedience (ROM)", but I'm
not
> sure if that fits with the Comstar description..
Seriously, I think the I read that even Comstar doesn't
know what ROM means. It was lost in the mists of time.
Unlike NOE, which any proper armchair general should know. :)
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NEil Phillips <phil...@webzone.net.au> wrote in message
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> I've just been reading through Field Manual: Comstar, and I can't find
> anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for.. this is the
> Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O" might stand for
> "Obedience", as in the WoB section it says "Obedience (ROM)", but I'm not
> sure if that fits with the Comstar description..
IIRC, there's a note somewhere in a sourcebook (I forget which one), that
says that even ComStar doesn't know what it stands for. It's 'believed to
be an ancient technological reference' or something.
Of course, I might be completely mistaken (wouldn't be unheard of). I can't
think of anything else it could stand for.
AM
Surely, somewhere lies "the answer,"
the answer to why I was born.
That is what all people wish for,
facing the dreary dream that they can't let go of.
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<mark...@hotmail.com> writes:
>IIRC, there's a note somewhere in a sourcebook (I forget which one), that
>says that even ComStar doesn't know what it stands for. It's 'believed to
>be an ancient technological reference' or something.
>
>Of course, I might be completely mistaken (wouldn't be unheard of). I can't
>think of anything else it could stand for.
>
Nope. You are right on the mark. From the sound of things in BT they have
forgotten how to enable disk protection. Hey! That's why they lost all the
tech! They didn't write protect the storage disks and someone saved the
entire music collection of Kenny G on them! :) sm
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Anthony Markley
<Sola...@aol.com> wrote in message news:ab.18f0e9...@aol.com...
> In article <8rsad2$j7i$1...@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>, Anthony Markley
> <mark...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> >IIRC, there's a note somewhere in a sourcebook (I forget which one),
that
> >says that even ComStar doesn't know what it stands for. It's 'believed
to
> >be an ancient technological reference' or something.
> >
> >Of course, I might be completely mistaken (wouldn't be unheard of). I
can't
> >think of anything else it could stand for.
> >
> Nope. You are right on the mark. From the sound of things in BT they have
> forgotten how to enable disk protection. Hey! That's why they lost all
the
> tech! They didn't write protect the storage disks and someone saved the
> entire music collection of Kenny G on them! :) sm
ROTFLMHO
That's why ComStar keeps losing messages - they're too busy using bandwidth
for Napster! Maybe ROM's original job was tracking pirated MP3s and
regulating Warez kiddies...
^_^
AM
Surely, somewhere lies "the answer,"
the answer to why I was born.
That is what all people wish for,
facing the dreary dream that they can't let go of.
--Give a Reason, Slayers Next
Philip Langdale
wrote:
>I've just been reading through Field Manual: Comstar, and I can't find
>anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for.. this is the
>Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O" might stand for
>"Obedience", as in the WoB section it says "Obedience (ROM)", but I'm not
>sure if that fits with the Comstar description..
From the Comstar Sourcebook:
R = Rho
O = Omega
M = Mu
Each different Comguards/ROM department has a greek letter name.
I don't have my Comstar sourcebook on me right now, but the three
categories are basically external intelligence, counter-intelligence
and the "Are you thinking correctly department" which may have been
Omega. Comstar no longer has that department but WOB does, along with
Psi which is the WOB Militia equivelent.
So Comstar ROM only has two departments, but the name's the same.
--phil
Peter La Casse
<phil...@webzone.net.au> wrote:
>I've just been reading through Field Manual: Comstar, and I can't
>find anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for..
>this is the Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O"
We could tell you, but we'd have to kill you.
Peter La Casse
His Divine Shadow
> I've just been reading through Field Manual: Comstar, and I can't find
> anywhere in the book where it specifies what ROM stands for.. this is the
> Comstar/Word of Blake secret service. I think the "O" might stand for
> "Obedience", as in the WoB section it says "Obedience (ROM)", but I'm not
> sure if that fits with the Comstar description..
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Andrew Lannon
> > entire music collection of Kenny G on them! :) sm
> Britney Spears.
I'd take Spears over Kenny G...at least she's good to look at. He's both
talentless _and_ not particularly good eye candy.
Of course, being a guy, my perceptions on the matter might be a bit skewed.
:-)
Andrew Lannon
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Philip Langdale <phi...@NOSPAM.mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> From the Comstar Sourcebook:
>
> R = Rho
> O = Omega
> M = Mu
>
> Each different Comguards/ROM department has a greek letter name.
> I don't have my Comstar sourcebook on me right now, but the three
> categories are basically external intelligence, counter-intelligence
> and the "Are you thinking correctly department" which may have been
> Omega. Comstar no longer has that department but WOB does, along with
> Psi which is the WOB Militia equivelent.
>
> So Comstar ROM only has two departments, but the name's the same.
>
> --phil
Good memory, but not perfect. After reference to the Comstar sourcebook:
Rho, Omicron, Mu.
Rho = Intelligence-gathering
Mu = Intelligence analysis
Omicron was Tought Purity, or some Soviet-style equivalent, now only
maintained by the Wobblies.
(Anyone else thinks its high time the Comguards set about bringing these
guys down a notch of two?)
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MKent41616
>know what ROM means. It was lost in the mists of time.
>
>Unlike NOE, which any proper armchair general should know. :)
>
nope ROM was named after its founder the space Knight J/K
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Professional <julien.s...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Omicron was Tought Purity, or some Soviet-style equivalent, now only
> maintained by the Wobblies.
>
> (Anyone else thinks its high time the Comguards set about
> bringing these guys down a notch of two?)
Sure, so long as the Comguards win a phyrric victory trashing
the WoBblies and end up ceding all HPGs to the Star League
or individual Houses. The only group I dislike more than the
Comstar factions is the Clans.
Philip Langdale
<KDvE5.8636$j%6.13...@wagner.videotron.net>:
>Good memory, but not perfect. After reference to the Comstar sourcebook:
>
>Rho, Omicron, Mu.
>
>Rho = Intelligence-gathering
>
>Mu = Intelligence analysis
>
>Omicron was Tought Purity, or some Soviet-style equivalent, now only
>maintained by the Wobblies.
>
>(Anyone else thinks its high time the Comguards set about bringing these
>guys down a notch of two?)
>
Quite so, thanks for correcting me. And, yes, it's definitely time for
CS to show them who's in charge, but it's pretty clear that FASA have
big plans for WOB in terms of a re-emergent Terran Hegemony, so we're
gonna have to wait a bit. ( Damn it :-)
--phil
Jon Ivars
> Sure, so long as the Comguards win a phyrric victory trashing
> the WoBblies and end up ceding all HPGs to the Star League
> or individual Houses. The only group I dislike more than the
> Comstar factions is the Clans.
Except for the FWL, the houses do own the HPGs. They were nationalised
following Waterly's failed Operation Scorpion in 3052. Comstar and WoB
(outside the FWL) are technically hired to operate these HPGs as the
Successor States simply did not have the trained personnel. Strangely,
this fact seems to have been overlooked even by Stackpole (who wrote
about these events) and so it appears that over a decade later, states
with a strong interest in putting in their own personnel (such as LA)
still haven't trained any operators. You still have Comstar delivering
news in person to Katrina, HPG stations are still sacrosanct etc...
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intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
His Divine Shadow
> I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
> intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
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> I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
> intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
>
Stupid, Amusing, and Faulty Espionage.
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Gladius <sph...@wam.umd.edu> writes:
>I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
>intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
>
Guesses are all we have. As far as I know, "SAFE" have never been defined.
Nice that BT still has some mysteries. :)
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Philip Langdale
>In article <Pine.GSO.4.21.001012...@rac2.wam.umd.edu>,
>Gladius <sph...@wam.umd.edu> writes:
>
>>I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
>>intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
>>
>Guesses are all we have. As far as I know, "SAFE" have never been defined.
>Nice that BT still has some mysteries. :)
>
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that it's not an english acronym but in
a central/eastern european language. That's as close as they've ever got to
stating what it is.
--phil
Kid Chameleon
etched into silicon:
<
<Except for the FWL, the houses do own the HPGs. They were nationalised
<following Waterly's failed Operation Scorpion in 3052. Comstar and WoB
<(outside the FWL) are technically hired to operate these HPGs as the
<Successor States simply did not have the trained personnel. Strangely,
<this fact seems to have been overlooked even by Stackpole (who wrote
<about these events) and so it appears that over a decade later, states
<with a strong interest in putting in their own personnel (such as LA)
<still haven't trained any operators. You still have Comstar delivering
<news in person to Katrina, HPG stations are still sacrosanct etc...
<
The Lyrans nationalised them then turned around and sold them back to
ComStar for a big-assed profit.
Kid Chameleon
etched into silicon:
<I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
<intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
<
Stupid A$$ Fscking Eagles
Anthony Evans
ROM: Randon opertatives Militant? lol
Alex Walkling-Ribeiro
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<Snip>
> >I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
> >intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
> >
> Guesses are all we have. As far as I know, "SAFE" have never been defined.
> Nice that BT still has some mysteries. :)
You don't want to know. Because if you knew, we'd have to kill you and
your family up to the third degree relatives. So let the Security
Advisory Force Echelon alone! Your friendly liaison officer. ;-)
Regards, Alex.
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> Hiya!
>
> You don't want to know. Because if you knew, we'd have to kill you and
> your family up to the third degree relatives. So let the Security
> Advisory Force Echelon alone! Your friendly liaison officer. ;-)
>
> Regards, Alex.
> --
> Captain Roger Deveraux / 3rd Batt., Bravo Company, Atrean Hussars / "The
> Black Uhlans"
Bah, he has nothing to fear. You SAFE people would bungle the job and kill
his neighbors instead. In fact, he's probably safer with a SAFE hit out on
him. Maybe that's where the acronym came from :)
-David 'Klep' 'He who fears not SAFE' Kleppinger
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<walk...@reze-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de> writes:
>You don't want to know. Because if you knew, we'd have to kill you and
>your family up to the third degree relatives. So let the Security
>Advisory Force Echelon alone! Your friendly liaison officer. ;-)
>
<SAFE Operative>
"ARGH! You know what SAFE means! You are guilty of treason!"
BANG!
(Sound of a body hitting the floor)
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>
> I haven't been able to determine what the acronym for the FWL's civilian
> intelligence service is. Anybody care to guess?
From the House Marik Sourcebook, p.121:
"In response, Parliament revoked the centuries-old charter of the NIA
and established a replacement agency, SAFE. The agency's acronym was
based on an old saying in an ancient Terran language, but its meaning
has now been lost."
---
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Jon Ivars
> From the House Marik Sourcebook, p.121:
>
> "In response, Parliament revoked the centuries-old charter of the NIA
> and established a replacement agency, SAFE. The agency's acronym was
> based on an old saying in an ancient Terran language, but its meaning
> has now been lost."
In other words better SAFE than sorry. The fools just started
capitalizing the word which seems to have confused later historians.