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Is there an equivalent to "13 Unique Wonders" in Taiwan MJ?

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Dee

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Nov 21, 2003, 11:41:29 AM11/21/03

I believe Taiwan MJ is played with 16 tiles in the hand (win on 17th
tile), while most of the other Chinese variants are played with 13
tiles in the hand (win on 14th tile). So I was wondering if there is
an equivalent to the "13 Unique Wonders" hand in Taiwan MJ. [For
those who don't know the term, "13 Unique Wonders" refers to a hand
with one of all the Word tiles (winds and honors) and one of the 1 and
9 of each of the suits (adds up to 13 tiles), a pair of any wins.]

Patrick Ho

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Nov 21, 2003, 3:01:05 PM11/21/03

Dee,

Actually, I heard somewhere that what you do in Taiwanese MJ is after
the regular 14 tiles that help you make up that hand, you also have a
meld of 3 of some sort. Either a 3 of a kind or a run of three. However, I
recently heard from someone that the 3 of a kind is not valid, so it may
just depend on house rules. Just find out what the house rules are before
you play.

--Patrick

Filipe Silva

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Nov 23, 2003, 2:09:53 PM11/23/03

Greetings,

Dragon Shiang-Yu Chang is his self printed "Wonderful Taiwan Mahjong"
book - which is THE reference for any person interested in Taiwan
Mahjong - doesn't mention any such hand - and even she existing it
would be called "17 Unique Wonders" or "Seventeen Orfans" ^_^
...And yes - Sequences and 3 of a Kind are allowed in Taiwanese
Mahjong.

Dragon Shiang book also features as an added bonus the "Chinese
Official" rules. I highly recommend you acquiring it by writing
directly at the author at: funcollector AT hotmail.com

Filipe

Filipe Silva

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Nov 24, 2003, 3:09:34 AM11/24/03

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:09:53 +0000, Filipe Silva wrote:

>would be called "17 Unique Wonders" or "Seventeen Orfans" ^_^

Of course I meant 16 Unique Wonders or 16 Orphans - my mind was set in
a *impossible* 17 Pairs hand.

Filipe

Filipe Silva

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Nov 30, 2003, 6:26:57 AM11/30/03

BUT Amy Lo in the Book of Mahjong mentions a thirty Tais (similar to
Fans) hand called Ni Gu Ni Gu - which is Seven pairs plus one triplet
of any two pairs.

So who knows? Better ask the house rules first.

Filipe Silva

Martin Rep

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Dec 1, 2003, 3:02:38 AM12/1/03

On 21 Nov 2003 08:41:29 -0800, d_...@my-deja.com (Dee) wrote:

Dragon Chang does not mention any Thirteen Unique Wonders related hand
in his wonderful book 'Wonderful Taiwan Mahjong', nor does Steve
Willougbey on his website (http://www.rag.com/~steve/mahjong/).
However, the computer game FourWinds 2.0 does. According to this game,
this hand consists of the Thirteen Unique Wonders plus a chow or pong.
This last series can only be melded by going out.
This solution is similar to the Taiwanese variant of the Seven Twins:
seven pairs and a pung (also called eight and a half pair).

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