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9257...@brt.deakin.edu.au

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Jan 4, 1994, 7:22:17 AM1/4/94
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I retrieved NetHack-- from nic.funet.fi and it doesn't seem to want
to work... Rather than getting a proper display I get the messages,
map and stuff displayed all stuck together with short codes between.

Can anyone advise me on what to do? Is this a bug? Am I stupid? Or
is this God's way of telling me I shouldn't be wasting my time on
games when I got a lot of work to do?

Chris Gregory

David DeLaney

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Jan 4, 1994, 7:03:23 PM1/4/94
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You don't have your terminal-type set properly, I'll bet (and thus it's
printing the codes it should be interpreting as cursor-movement). Try setting
it to vt100 and trying again? If that's not it, I'm sure there's people
here with better advice...

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Marko Tsoi

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Jan 5, 1994, 8:13:14 AM1/5/94
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9257...@brt.deakin.edu.au told us:
|-> I retrieved NetHack-- from nic.funet.fi and it doesn't seem to want
|-> to work... Rather than getting a proper display I get the messages,
|-> map and stuff displayed all stuck together with short codes between.

|-> Chris Gregory

This may be a silly suggestion but if you are running nethack on a dos
machine then you probably need to put ansi.sys into your config.sys in
a line like
device=ansi.sys. The map and stuff with the codes between sounds like ansi
escape sequences.
Just a Thought.

MKT

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Michael Allison

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Jan 5, 1994, 6:24:03 PM1/5/94
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In <2geeda$3...@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> m...@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au (Marko Tsoi) writes:

>|-> to work... Rather than getting a proper display I get the messages,
>|-> map and stuff displayed all stuck together with short codes between.

>This may be a silly suggestion but if you are running nethack on a dos
^^^^^^^


>machine then you probably need to put ansi.sys into your config.sys in
>a line like
>device=ansi.sys. The map and stuff with the codes between sounds like ansi
>escape sequences.
>Just a Thought.
>MKT

The first line of your reply should state "nethack--" as the original
subject line specified.

NetHack 3.1.3 does not need ansi.sys on the msdos platform (although
if you really want to, you can build it that way from the sources).

Peter Snelling

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Jan 5, 1994, 8:43:48 PM1/5/94
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In article <1994Jan5.2...@govonca.gov.on.ca>, all...@govonca.gov.on.ca (Michael Allison) writes:

>NetHack 3.1.3 does not need ansi.sys on the msdos platform (although
>if you really want to, you can build it that way from the sources).

Really? That's quite good - it gets rid of one of the FAQ's in this group.
I wonder how they implemented it without ansi.sys?
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9257...@brt.deakin.edu.au

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Jan 6, 1994, 6:04:32 PM1/6/94
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Ansi.sys ... Hmmm ... That's what it was all right ...

Thanks everybody.

Chris Gregory

Alan Evans

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Jan 7, 1994, 12:36:12 AM1/7/94
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Peter Snelling (snel...@bmerh466.bnr.ca) wrote:

: In article <1994Jan5.2...@govonca.gov.on.ca>, all...@govonca.gov.on.ca (Michael Allison) writes:

: >NetHack 3.1.3 does not need ansi.sys on the msdos platform (although
: >if you really want to, you can build it that way from the sources).

I have always used it (nansi.sys) without any problem. I fail to
understand why you would not want to use it . . .

Alan Evans

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Michael Allison

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Jan 7, 1994, 9:18:13 PM1/7/94
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: >NetHack 3.1.3 does not need ansi.sys on the msdos platform (although
: >if you really want to, you can build it that way from the sources).

In <CJ8vK...@kaiwan.com> aev...@kaiwan.com (Alan Evans) writes:

>I have always used it (nansi.sys) without any problem. I fail to
>understand why you would not want to use it . . .

Perhaps you misunderstood. Nobody is stating that people shouldn't use
ansi.sys (or nansi.sys) on their machines. I was just pointing
out the fact that the NetHack 3.1.3 binaries for MSDOS (such as those from
linc.cis.upenn.edu ) don't require, or use such a console driver.

Chris Herborth

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Jan 7, 1994, 8:58:16 PM1/7/94
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It's NetHack--'s way of telling you that DOS sucks. Install ANSI.SYS
(or something useful, like NANSI.SYS) and it'll work ok. NetHack--
3.1.x was done mostly on UNIX and the Atari ST (it's faster for me to
compile on the multiprocessor, but I like MicroEMACS on my ST better) so
I made no effort to use dirty DOS tricks to speed up output or anything
else...

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Michael David Gerard

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Jan 8, 1994, 8:14:22 PM1/8/94
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In article <1994Jan6.0...@bmers95.bnr.ca>,

Peter Snelling <snel...@bmerh466.bnr.ca> wrote:
>In article <1994Jan5.2...@govonca.gov.on.ca>, all...@govonca.gov.on.ca (Michael Allison) writes:
>>NetHack 3.1.3 does not need ansi.sys on the msdos platform (although
>>if you really want to, you can build it that way from the sources).
>Really? That's quite good - it gets rid of one of the FAQ's in this group.
>I wonder how they implemented it without ansi.sys?


Direct console output? conio.h? PC programming output can come on two levels,
stdio (just like in unix) and "conio," which gives you direct control of the
cursor on the screen with a simple "gotoxy" function.

HOWEVER, if you compile it to use the stdio ansi screen writes, you can run
nethack as a door game on many BBS systems! (Many PC BBS's have the ability
to redirect stdio to the modem to run games as a door). The only thing you
would have to do further is write a small "front end" program that kept track
of all of the users' .cfg files and gave the appropriate one to nethack when
that user wanted to play. A bit of a tweak and it DOES work. I did it for
WWIV. "Excessive Force BBS" in Fountain Valley California is the only MSDOS
based BBS in the WORLD offering nethack as an online game (as far as I know)!

(aren't I so spoofy?)

mig

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