UNTIL's Leader?
NotAsSuch
what it is?
David Crowe
: I know I have seen a name for the leader of UNTIL somewhere. Anyone know
: what it is?
I'm sorry, you're not cleared for that information. :)
Its Major Juan Martinez.
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Theala Sildorian
wrote:
>I know I have seen a name for the leader of UNTIL somewhere. Anyone know
>what it is?
Major Juan Martinez of Paraguay. There's been a lot of little
articles and snippets about UNTIL in various sourcebooks--the best
places for info on Martinez are Super Agents and the Hero Almanac II.
Super Agents has more of a brief on him, while HMII has a full
character write up. HMII is a complete update of the original UNTIL
stuff, but Super Agents has more UNTIL character briefs, an
organizational chart, plus maps for a base and a sub. I highly
recommend both.
Champions Universe has a bit on UNTIL that's not very informative.
The AC had a number of articles on UNTIL, but they're incomplete
compared to SA and HAII.
Amy
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Bryan J. Maloney
<No...@notreally.org> wrote:
> I know I have seen a name for the leader of UNTIL somewhere. Anyone know
> what it is?
Scrap UNTIL. Replace it with UNIT. UNIT is far and away much cooler than
UNTIL.
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Walt Smith
bj...@cornell.edu (Bryan J. Maloney) wrote:
> Scrap UNTIL. Replace it with UNIT. UNIT is far and away much
> cooler than UNTIL.
Granted, but then you have all those rogue Gallifreyans to
deal with.
Walt Smith
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NotAsSuch
did more than die in an orderly fashion. I prefer SHIELD but I hear that Old
Nick got himself wasted so that kinda takes the fun out of it.
NotAsSuch
for that information ... and I'm sure to misuse it.
Thanks for the info.
NotAsSuch
Did Super Agents have a section about a sub?
Bryan J. Maloney
<No...@notreally.org> wrote:
There was actually a short-lived UNIT series (K-9 and Company, if I recall
aright)...
Theala Sildorian
wrote:
>Thank you.
>
>Did Super Agents have a section about a sub?
>
>
Yes. The Swordfish II, tho Phil Masters in Hero Almanac II renames it
the Mako (much better name, IMHO--in my campaign it was called the
Deep Sea 9, after DS9). There's a writeup, and layout of the sub, as
well as character briefs on the officers and crew. HAII updates the
characters, but not the sub. I run the sub with a kinda SeaQuest
feel, basing Capt McNally on the first captain from the show.
Theala Sildorian
wrote:
>In article <bjm10-30080...@potato.cit.cornell.edu>,
> bj...@cornell.edu (Bryan J. Maloney) wrote:
>> Scrap UNTIL. Replace it with UNIT. UNIT is far and away much
>> cooler than UNTIL.
>
>Granted, but then you have all those rogue Gallifreyans to
>deal with.
But an unlimited source of free jellibabies :D
David Crowe
: Hmmm... By what standard? I don't know of any situation where UNIT personnel
: did more than die in an orderly fashion. I prefer SHIELD but I hear that Old
: Nick got himself wasted so that kinda takes the fun out of it.
He's back now, but on vacation. Sharon Carter is the current agency head.
LLWatts
>personnel
>> did more than die in an orderly fashion.
>There was actually a short-lived UNIT series (K-9 and Company, if I recall
>aright)...
K-9 and Company was a one-shot -- might have been intended as a pilot episode.
I don't recall UNIT getting involved, just Sarah Jane Smith and K-9.
Leah
Tarsier
NotAsSuch wrote:
> Hmmm... By what standard? I don't know of any situation where UNIT personnel
> did more than die in an orderly fashion. I prefer SHIELD but I hear that Old
> Nick got himself wasted so that kinda takes the fun out of it.
We used UNCLE to replace them in the earliest Champs game I was in. (one of the
GM's was an UNCLE fan)
Bryan J. Maloney
llw...@aol.com.nospam (LLWatts) wrote:
Lethbridge-Stewart and hist indefataguable Sergeant were intended to also
be regulars.
sbe...@dowco.com
There were several video-only UNIT productions that were released about
five to ten years ago, featuring some of the original characters (such
as Mike Yeats). I've never seen them, though.
Scott Bennie
maxxlingo
UNCLE,and even THUNDER but have never heard of UNIT.
What do the letters stand for?
sbe...@dowco.com
United Nations Intelligence Task force. From Dr. Who. A special
terrestrial task force meant to investigate the unexplained (usually
aliens of some sort) and neutralize them (usually by blowing them to
bits). The Doctor was their scientific advisor.
Scott Bennie
Walt Smith
United Nations Intelligence Taskforce. They're a
special investigations/paramilitary organization from the
Doctor Who stories, founded in mid 1968. UNIT is absorbed
into the United Nations military structure sometime between
2030 and 2068.
ref Cris Lawrence's attempt at UNIT dating,
http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~lawrencr/novels/unitdate.html
Mr Bunraku
>UNCLE,and even THUNDER but have never heard of UNIT.
>What do the letters stand for?
>
See, I'd say scrap UNTIL and use THUNDER. Or at least use the support for
UNTIL as background for T.H.U.N.D.E.R., since it's really not fleshed out that
much in the comics.
Mr Bunraku
NotAsSuch
stand for?
Mr Bunraku
>stand for?
>
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. is The Higher United Nations Defense Enforcement Reserves. The
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents comic was published by Tower Comics during the late 60's.
It was trying to capitalize on the superhero and spy craze of the times. The
Agents all had devices that gave them superpowers. Most of them had serious
limitations or weren't all that powerful.
age...@io.com
Walt Smith
I thought Noman (one of the THUNDER agents) was great. He had an
invisibility cape and an android body, and there was a pile of spare
bodies available. Whenever he was "killed", his conciousness would
immediately (and with all memories up to moment of "death") animate
the nearest body. He would sometimes stash an extra android body
nearby, so he could do a suicide attack and get the drop on
the bad guys while they were checking out his "corpse".
They even had one bit where his body was badly damaged, but
not "killed". A communications glitch caused another body to be
animated, and the original - now cut off from new bodies - went on
to become a mad supervillain.
Mr Bunraku
>not "killed". A communications glitch caused another body to be
>animated, and the original - now cut off from new bodies - went on
>to become a mad supervillain.
>
Yep, that was in the short lived JC Comics revival of the T.H.U.N.D.E.R.
Agents. That was in the 80's, I believe.
Since you've brought up NoMan, and this is a Super RPG newsgroup, can anyone
post a way to do NoMan with the HERO rules? I've asked this before, but I've
yet to get a satisfactory answer.
There are 2 ways, as I see it. Neither of them is totally "right" as the
character is portrayed in the comics.
First is to create NoMan as only having the mental attributes, sort of like an
AI in the Cyber Hero rules. Then create his bodies as vehicles or followers,
and mind link them. With this, he could go from body to body at will, but
buying as many bodies as NoMan had in the comics would get expensive quick, it
seems.
Second is to give him massive amounts of teleportation with a massive Aid
usable only at the point of "death." This way, the shows up in the next body,
probably fully healed. This works great, but NoMan was shown transferring his
consciousness from a moon base back to Earth. And this assumes that the body
he is currently in is totally destroyed. In the comics, he'd frequently jump
from one body to another.
I should point out that the android bodies were not really that remarkable.
They were a bit stronger and a little more resiliant than a human body, but
probably not to superhuman standards. The bodies did not need to eat or sleep,
but did need to breathe. And they apparently could survive in a vacuum, since
NoMan only wore an air tank when he was in space. No pressure suit.
And THEN there's the ONE invisibility cape to share among ALL the bodies!
Anyone else have any ideas?
Ed
Jubilation T. Cornpone
>I thought Noman (one of the THUNDER agents) was great. He had an
>invisibility cape and an android body, and there was a pile of spare
>bodies available. Whenever he was "killed", his conciousness would
>immediately (and with all memories up to moment of "death") animate
>the nearest body. He would sometimes stash an extra android body
>nearby, so he could do a suicide attack and get the drop on
>the bad guys while they were checking out his "corpse".
Best revival Noman story I read involved him making an assault on an island.
He dropped dozens (maybe up to a hundred) of bodies on the island and switched
among them as needed. His last body made it to his target, who captured
Noman. Being a villain, he had to gloat. That was when Noman's final body
was activated--it was a robotic wasp that stung the bad guy in his remaining
eye. His bodies don't HAVE to be humanoid...
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>
> Since you've brought up NoMan, and this is a Super RPG newsgroup, can anyone
> post a way to do NoMan with the HERO rules? I've asked this before, but I've
> yet to get a satisfactory answer.
I would use Duplication with a major Limitation, "Only one body can be in
use at once" (-2?).
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Mr Bunraku
>>invisibility cape and an android body, and there was a pile of spare
>>bodies available. Whenever he was "killed", his conciousness would
>>immediately (and with all memories up to moment of "death") animate
>>the nearest body. He would sometimes stash an extra android body
>>nearby, so he could do a suicide attack and get the drop on
>>the bad guys while they were checking out his "corpse".
>
>Best revival Noman story I read involved him making an assault on an island.
>
>He dropped dozens (maybe up to a hundred) of bodies on the island and
>switched
>among them as needed. His last body made it to his target, who captured
>Noman. Being a villain, he had to gloat. That was when Noman's final body
>was activated--it was a robotic wasp that stung the bad guy in his remaining
>eye. His bodies don't HAVE to be humanoid...
>
>
I always thought that this was one of the greatest unused potential of NoMan.
Iron Man had a dozen or more "specialized" armors depending on what he needed.
There's no reason they couldn't have done that with NoMan. A combat body, a
deep space body, an infiltration body (the one with the invisibility cape),
etc....
As a matter of fact, a friend of mine was going to put together a
T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents game in which NoMan was a villian and used lots of
specialized bodies.
Mr Bunraku