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UncleanOne

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I am thinking of getting into this system. Is this the place to discuss this
game?

If so, does Hogshead publish a list of what is coming out for WHFRP? And does
someone have a list of what is already available?

Many thanks......Mike

James Wallis

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In article <19980307154...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, UncleanOne

<uncle...@aol.com> wrote:
>I am thinking of getting into this system. Is this the place to discuss this
>game?

This, or the Warhammer FRP mailing list.

>If so, does Hogshead publish a list of what is coming out for WHFRP?

Yup. At the risk of being accused of blatant advertising (and I tell
you, we publishers *pray* for straight lines like "what is coming out
for WHFRP?"), for this year we have the following delights:

March/April: "Middenheim: City of Chaos". Pretty much a straight reprint
of the old "Warhammer City" by Carl Sargent. With poster-map.

April/May: "The Enemy Within vol. 3: Power Behind the Throne". A reprint
of the classic Carl Sargent adventure, with 14 new pages added by a
talented British games designer whom I am far too modest to name. Plus
new art by Russ Nicholson, and a great Fangorn cover to replace the old
Les Edwards one.

Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated
sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big. Chunky.
With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've ever seen,
by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.

Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic
campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.

>And does
>someone have a list of what is already available?

To save myself from being drummed out of this newsgroup altogether, I've
emailed this separately.

--
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Publishers of WARHAMMER FANTASY ROLEPLAY (wf...@hogshead.demon.co.uk)
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Company motto: "Brevior vita est quam pro futumentibus negotium agendo"

Jonas Whitespore

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On Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:36:47 +0000, James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic
>campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
>in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
>Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.

Shouldn't that be "Doomstones _5_:..." ?

And, can you tell us if you had to take this one from scratch, or were there
notes and stuff laying about to work from? Just curious.

Jonas Whitespore

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athol-brose

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In article <3501f468...@enews.newsguy.com>, Jonas Whitespore wrote:
>On Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:36:47 +0000, James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic
>>campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
>>in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
>>Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.
>Shouldn't that be "Doomstones _5_:..." ?

Since Hogshead's been reprinting Doomstones two to a book so far, the
fifth module is in book three. Confused?

--
r. n. dominick -- cinn...@one.net

Anthony Ragan

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edc...@newsguy.com (Jonas Whitespore) screamed into the Void:

>Shouldn't that be "Doomstones _5_:..." ?

By the old count, yes. But the reprints have combined two volumes
under one cover, so the conclusion is Doomstones 3.
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John Fiala

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James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<FmNG92B$OZA1...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>...

> In article <19980307154...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, UncleanOne
> <uncle...@aol.com> wrote:
> >If so, does Hogshead publish a list of what is coming out for WHFRP?
>
> Yup. At the risk of being accused of blatant advertising (and I tell
> you, we publishers *pray* for straight lines like "what is coming out
> for WHFRP?"), for this year we have the following delights:

<De-lights de-leted>

> Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated
> sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
> Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big. Chunky.
> With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've ever seen,
> by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.

Why do I feel like this sounds like Anch-Morpok (from Diskworld) with all
the humor taken out of it? Maybe I should buy it as a supplement for GURPS
Diskworld. :)

> Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic
> campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
> in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
> Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.

Oh, hell. First 'The Great Maze' forces me into Deadlands, and now
'Doomstones 3' may force me into Warhammer FRG. I've *got* to find someone
less prolific to idolize.
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Juergen Hubert

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John Fiala wrote:
>
> James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> <FmNG92B$OZA1...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>...
> > In article <19980307154...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, UncleanOne
> > <uncle...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >If so, does Hogshead publish a list of what is coming out for WHFRP?
> >
> > Yup. At the risk of being accused of blatant advertising (and I tell
> > you, we publishers *pray* for straight lines like "what is coming out
> > for WHFRP?"), for this year we have the following delights:
>
> <De-lights de-leted>
>
> > Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated
> > sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
> > Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big. Chunky.
> > With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've ever seen,
> > by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.
>
> Why do I feel like this sounds like Anch-Morpok (from Diskworld) with all
> the humor taken out of it?

Oh, I dunno. I guess there will be _some_ humor in it. Some of it might
be unintentional, if the names will still sound as silly in German as
they did in other supplements...

-- Juergen Hubert

JamesG

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James Wallis wrote:

> Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated
> sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
> Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big.
> Chunky. With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've
> ever seen, by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.

YES! I've been waiting for this for... Something like six years now.

I don't even play WFRP at the moment, but I still want this book.

JamesG,
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Thin Lines

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Juergen Hubert wrote:
> > > Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated
> > > sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
> > > Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big. Chunky.
> > > With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've ever seen,
> > > by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.
> >
> > Why do I feel like this sounds like Anch-Morpok (from Diskworld) with all
> > the humor taken out of it?
>
> Oh, I dunno. I guess there will be _some_ humor in it. Some of it might
> be unintentional, if the names will still sound as silly in German as
> they did in other supplements...
>
> -- Juergen Hubert

Knowing a little German did help a little in playing through the "Enemy
Within" campaign. But I nearly lost it when in "Something Rotten in
Kislev" the GM, who didn't know any German, said with a completely
straight face, that the evil wizard's name was "Teufelmist" (trans:
"Demon sh*t")

-T.L.(ME)

Thin Lines

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Anthony Ragan wrote:
>
> Thin Lines <thin...@earthlink.net> screamed into the Void:

>
> >Knowing a little German did help a little in playing through the "Enemy
> >Within" campaign. But I nearly lost it when in "Something Rotten in
> >Kislev" the GM, who didn't know any German, said with a completely
> >straight face, that the evil wizard's name was "Teufelmist" (trans:
> >"Demon sh*t")
>
> He must have made that up himself. WFRP has some pretty awful puns in
> it, but I don't recall a "Teufelmist" in SRiK.

> *****
> --Anthony Ragan
> Snotling in Chief, Staadtholder van Marienburg
> iris...@mindspring.com (primary) & Iris...@aol.com (secondary)
> The Warhammer FRP FAQ is at:
> ftp://ftp.westfalen.de/warhammer/FAQ3.3

Maybe it wasn't SRiK, but it WAS a published adventure. He showed it to
me in the book when I starting laughing and told him what it meant.
Hmm... I'll have to look through his old books to find it, though I'm
pretty sure it was in Kislev.

-T.L.(ME)

Anthony Ragan

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Christian Rickwardt

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Thin Lines (thin...@earthlink.net) wrote:

: Knowing a little German did help a little in playing through the "Enemy


: Within" campaign. But I nearly lost it when in "Something Rotten in
: Kislev" the GM, who didn't know any German, said with a completely
: straight face, that the evil wizard's name was "Teufelmist" (trans:
: "Demon sh*t")

Teufelmist = DEVILshit, demon = Daemon.
(Sorry, could not resist to explain something, that might come in
handy in future WFRP supplements ;-).

Want some more ? I think in "Power Behind ..." there is a lady of
the court called 'Liebkosen', which translates into 'cuddle',
somewhere else appears an inventor called 'Kugelschreiber', which
is 'pen', and some of the names are real giveaways as to the role
the person plays in the adventure.
Perhaps all German WFRP-lovers online should collect a list of all
the funny/weird/giveaway names in the published WFRP stuff and put
it up someplace on the net ?
Ciao

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On 8 Mar 98 04:47:38 GMT, cinn...@shell.one.net (athol-brose) wrote:

>In article <3501f468...@enews.newsguy.com>, Jonas Whitespore wrote:
>>On Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:36:47 +0000, James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>
>>wrote:

>>>Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic
>>>campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
>>>in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
>>>Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.

>>Shouldn't that be "Doomstones _5_:..." ?
>

>Since Hogshead's been reprinting Doomstones two to a book so far, the
>fifth module is in book three. Confused?

Not anymore, but since I've got the original 4 books from Flame I never bothered
to check out Hogshead's version. Thanks.

MCV Fenderson

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Anthony Ragan (iris...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: Thin Lines <thin...@earthlink.net> screamed into the Void:

: >Knowing a little German did help a little in playing through the "Enemy
: >Within" campaign. But I nearly lost it when in "Something Rotten in
: >Kislev" the GM, who didn't know any German, said with a completely
: >straight face, that the evil wizard's name was "Teufelmist" (trans:
: >"Demon sh*t")

: He must have made that up himself. WFRP has some pretty awful puns in


: it, but I don't recall a "Teufelmist" in SRiK.

It does make it easy to think of suitable names for instant NPCs,
though. Recently, I needed a wizard in Boegenhafen.
Well, Hans Zaubermann sounds very reasonable if you don't know German.
Unfortunately, almost everybody in my group is better at German than
I am.


ttfn,
mcv. <><

Christian Hanisch

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Christian Rickwardt <rick...@pirsig.physik.uni-mainz.de> wrote:

> Perhaps all German WFRP-lovers online should collect a list of all
> the funny/weird/giveaway names in the published WFRP stuff and put
> it up someplace on the net ?

One of my players was Bernhard Diener, a servant (Diener = servant -
Bernhard = male christian name - Bernhardiner = St Bernard dog)

But for a german gm it's not very useful, if the npcs have names like
traitor or killer.

Christian

James Wallis

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In article <3503E67A...@physik.stud.uni-erlangen.de>, Juergen

Hubert <Juergen...@physik.stud.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
>Oh, I dunno. I guess there will be _some_ humor in it. Some of it might
>be unintentional, if the names will still sound as silly in German as
>they did in other supplements...

Dutch, not German. Marienburg is based loosely on Renaissance Rotterdam.

James Wallis

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In article <3501f468...@enews.newsguy.com>, Jonas Whitespore
<edc...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>And, can you tell us if you had to take this one from scratch, or were there
>notes and stuff laying about to work from? Just curious.

There was the original proposal (by Graeme Davis and Mike Brunton), left
over in the Flame archives which we inherited. Neither Graeme nor Mike
had the time to write Doomstones 5, so I approached other writers --
notably Robin Laws. I sent him a copy of the proposal but naturally he
was eager to bring many of his own ideas to the project, so the final
result will be an amalgam of the two.

Personally I reckon it's an extremely good blend, and a fitting epic
climax to the campaign, but then I would say that.

Jonas Whitespore

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On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:59:32 +0000, James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <3501f468...@enews.newsguy.com>, Jonas Whitespore


><edc...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>And, can you tell us if you had to take this one from scratch, or were there
>>notes and stuff laying about to work from? Just curious.
>
>There was the original proposal (by Graeme Davis and Mike Brunton), left
>over in the Flame archives which we inherited. Neither Graeme nor Mike
>had the time to write Doomstones 5, so I approached other writers --
>notably Robin Laws. I sent him a copy of the proposal but naturally he
>was eager to bring many of his own ideas to the project, so the final
>result will be an amalgam of the two.
>
>Personally I reckon it's an extremely good blend, and a fitting epic
>climax to the campaign, but then I would say that.

Of course you would. ; )

In any case, I await it with baited breath. I've always been a fan of WFRP, and
I really like what you guys have been putting out so far. I hope you can
continue to put out good material for some time to come.

And thanks for satisfying my curiosity.

Anthony Ragan

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James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> screamed into the Void:

>Dutch, not German. Marienburg is based loosely on Renaissance Rotterdam.

And I had the help of a couple of very kind Netherlanders (is
"Dutchman" considered a pejorative term these days?) with names, so
most German/Dutch readers shouldn't be rolling their eyes at them.

Place names, on the other hand... Well, leaving me alone with a
dictionary is a dangerous thing to do.

Michael Lo

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Will Hogshead come out with the Realms of Sorcery? Also I heard rumors
that you guys want to come out with a Warhammer 40k rpg and a realms of
chaos reprint for Warhammer rpg, is this true?
If so I for one hope you guys stick to old Warhammer world and not the
kinder, gentler Warhammer (what happened to the Slann and Brettonians?)
if you do make a Warhammer 40k rpg, hopefully it'll be from the Rogue Trader
days. Also will there ever be an improved bestiary? Wouldn't mind getting
some more creatures in the rpg (not just add ons from the battle system).

Now a question outside of Warhammer, in 1987 there was a gamebooks series
from Knight books, Bloodsword! written by Dave Morris and Oliver Johnson.
There were five books in all: Battlepits of Krarth, Kingdom of Wyrd,
The Demon's Claw, Doomwalk, and The Walls of Spyte. They were a really
good series (very dark world, though not Warhammer-level nastiness) and
allowed up to 4 players as well as having tactical map designs inside for
each battle. Unfortunately they are out of print and if they are hard
to find in the UK they are next to impossible in North America. So I
was wondering if there are any UK second-hand bookstores, game stores
or really helpful book companies that can help? Would really love
to get all 5 in very good or perfect condition (like having no one
write inside them) but I've been looking for years and can't even
find a semi-decent copy. Can you help or better yet can Hogshead
get the rights and reprint them. They were only five books compared
to the 50+ Fighting Fantasy books.

Glad to see you guys keep the old Warhammer world alive. Thanks

James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> writes:

>In article <19980307154...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, UncleanOne
><uncle...@aol.com> wrote:

>>I am thinking of getting into this system. Is this the place to discuss this
>>game?

>This, or the Warhammer FRP mailing list.

>>If so, does Hogshead publish a list of what is coming out for WHFRP?

>Yup. At the risk of being accused of blatant advertising (and I tell
>you, we publishers *pray* for straight lines like "what is coming out
>for WHFRP?"), for this year we have the following delights:

>March/April: "Middenheim: City of Chaos". Pretty much a straight reprint


>of the old "Warhammer City" by Carl Sargent. With poster-map.

>April/May: "The Enemy Within vol. 3: Power Behind the Throne". A reprint
>of the classic Carl Sargent adventure, with 14 new pages added by a
>talented British games designer whom I am far too modest to name. Plus
>new art by Russ Nicholson, and a great Fangorn cover to replace the old
>Les Edwards one.

>Late summer: "Marienburg: Sold Down the River". The much-anticipated


>sourcebook for the largest, busiest and most corrupt port-city in the
>Old World: all new material by r.g.f.m's own Anthony Ragan. Big. Chunky.
>With possibly the finest poster-map of a fantasy city you've ever seen,
>by the awesome Ralph "Inferno" Horsley.

>Autumn: "Doomstones 3: Heart of Chaos", the final chapter of the epic


>campaign, which was never properly concluded by Flame Publications back
>in 1990. This suitably cataclysmic climax is provided by Robin D. "Feng
>Shui" Laws, with art by someone we haven't chosen yet.

>>And does


>>someone have a list of what is already available?

>To save myself from being drummed out of this newsgroup altogether, I've
>emailed this separately.

>--

James Wallis

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In article <6e66p2$l9c$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo

<m...@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>
>Will Hogshead come out with the Realms of Sorcery?

We have people working on it right now. In fact we've had people working
on it for two years. Personally I reckon that when a supplement is
already eleven years late, another year here or there isn't going to
make too much difference, so long as it ensures that the book ends up
being worth the wait.

>Also I heard rumors
>that you guys want to come out with a Warhammer 40k rpg

Not a true rumour. Alas.

>and a realms of
>chaos reprint for Warhammer rpg, is this true?

Not a reprint, but a rewrite. At some point. It's not on our schedules
yet.

>If so I for one hope you guys stick to old Warhammer world and not the
>kinder, gentler Warhammer (what happened to the Slann and Brettonians?)

Games Workshop brought them back in WFB5 -- albeit slightly changed.
Blame Chaos.

>Also will there ever be an improved bestiary? Wouldn't mind getting
>some more creatures in the rpg (not just add ons from the battle system).

Actually it's Hogshead policy that the Warhammer world has quite enough
large predators, spectral entities and humanoid races already, and we
have no plans to introduce any new ones. This ain't AD&D. Warhammer FRP
adventures rely on more than new-things-to-kill to provide excitement,
tension and horror. On the other hand, we are thinking about doing an
expanded bestiary which would go into a lot more detail about the more
interesting races and species.

Michael Lo

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Aye, thanks for all the info. Do you have any words of help for
me and my search for the Bloodsword! series. I've been hunting
that one forever it seems (okay 11 years).

Vos MC

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Christian Hanisch (christia...@tu-clausthal.de) wrote:
: Christian Rickwardt <rick...@pirsig.physik.uni-mainz.de> wrote:

: > Perhaps all German WFRP-lovers online should collect a list of all
: > the funny/weird/giveaway names in the published WFRP stuff and put
: > it up someplace on the net ?

: One of my players was Bernhard Diener, a servant (Diener = servant -
: Bernhard = male christian name - Bernhardiner = St Bernard dog)

One of my players plays a female rustler called Maedchen Fietieb (sp?),
which translates to Girl Cattle-thief. Another plays a tunnelfighter
called Uchan Schachtkriecher (or something like that; my German isn't
too good). Uchan doesn't mean anything (as far as I know), but
Schachtkriecher means tunnel-crawler. (He could have called him
Schachrkrieger, which would be tunnel-warrior.)


ttfn,
mcv. <><

Vos MC

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James Wallis (Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <6e66p2$l9c$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo
: <m...@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:

: >Also will there ever be an improved bestiary? Wouldn't mind getting


: >some more creatures in the rpg (not just add ons from the battle system).

: Actually it's Hogshead policy that the Warhammer world has quite enough
: large predators, spectral entities and humanoid races already, and we
: have no plans to introduce any new ones. This ain't AD&D. Warhammer FRP
: adventures rely on more than new-things-to-kill to provide excitement,
: tension and horror. On the other hand, we are thinking about doing an
: expanded bestiary which would go into a lot more detail about the more
: interesting races and species.

That would be a much better idea, indeed. I don't know what to do
with the lists of stats in the bestiary in the basic rules already,
so just more faceless creatures would hardly interest me.
A book with more background info on the Skaven, what the Moot looks
like, stuff about what the life of an average Dwarf looks like, details
on Elven society, and perhaps a little bit on how and where to use
Fimir, for example, would be really useful.


ttfn,
mcv. <><

Peter Meilinger

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James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6e66p2$l9c$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo
> <m...@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
> >
> >Will Hogshead come out with the Realms of Sorcery?

> We have people working on it right now. In fact we've had people working
> on it for two years. Personally I reckon that when a supplement is
> already eleven years late, another year here or there isn't going to
> make too much difference, so long as it ensures that the book ends up
> being worth the wait.

My question is how different will this be from the Realms of Sorcery
I printed off the web? That was damned good. I believe I've heard
your ROS will be completely different, but I'm not sure.

Pete


James Wallis

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
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In article <6e8qjf$ddm$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo

<m...@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>
>Aye, thanks for all the info. Do you have any words of help for
>me and my search for the Bloodsword! series. I've been hunting
>that one forever it seems (okay 11 years).

I've never seen a copy of any of these books, to my knowledge, I'm
afraid. But Dave Morris lives just down the road from me, so I'll ask
him about them the next time I see him.

Christian Hanisch

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:

> One of my players plays a female rustler called Maedchen Fietieb (sp?),

Mädchen Viehdieb. But as far as I know, the only girl named Madchen is
an american actress. (Well, maybe there is an anonymous family "scout",
who name their children "boy" and "girl" :)

> which translates to Girl Cattle-thief. Another plays a tunnelfighter
> called Uchan Schachtkriecher (or something like that; my German isn't
> too good). Uchan doesn't mean anything (as far as I know), but
> Schachtkriecher means tunnel-crawler. (He could have called him
> Schachrkrieger, which would be tunnel-warrior.)

yep. Uchan doesn't mean anything. And tunnel-crawler is right.

CH

Michael Lo

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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Aye thank you very much. 11 years gets a bit frustrating (took me that
long to find a Rogue Trader and Slaves to Darkness as well).

I also have to agree with you that an expanded detailing on the various
beings is much better than the standard new monster of the day bestiary.
Will it be as detailed as say the old Realms of Chaos where actual
stories were involved? I for one would like to see more of the skaven
clans and the chaos dwarves.

PS: If you involve the Slann, will it be the storyline used in WHRPG or
the Lizardman unit? I hope for the WHRPG version as I don't feel like
using a fat frog in Aztec regalia.

James Wallis

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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In article <6e8ukk$5rb$1...@star.cs.vu.nl>, Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
>A book with more background info on the Skaven, what the Moot looks
>like, stuff about what the life of an average Dwarf looks like, details
>on Elven society, and perhaps a little bit on how and where to use
>Fimir, for example, would be really useful.

We have authors already working on three of your five suggestions -- not
for an expanded bestiary, but for complete sourcebooks of their own. We
aim to please.

James Wallis

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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In article <6e8vqt$cvr$4...@nntp-3.io.com>, Peter Meilinger

<mell...@io.com> wrote:
>My question is how different will this be from the Realms of Sorcery
>I printed off the web? That was damned good. I believe I've heard
>your ROS will be completely different, but I'm not sure.

Our Realms of Sorcery will, as you've heard, be completely different.
The one you got off the net is Ken Rolston's manuscript from the late
1980s, originally commissioned by GW but subsequently rejected. I've
heard various tales about why that happened, but my personal view is
that although it's an excellent fantasy magic system, it's not a
*Warhammer* magic system: it doesn't reflect the game-world, and it's
not compatible with what's been said about Warhammer magic before or
since. It overlaps but it doesn't run Microsoft Flight Simulator, if you
know what I mean. We did approach GW about releasing a revised version
of Ken's work but they refused, so we commissioned our own.

Our edition is being written by Ken Walton, best known for "GURPS Celtic
Myth" and his work for Hogshead's "Dying of the Light" adventure. It's
not a completely new magic system, it's an expansion and rationalisation
of what's gone before -- so you won't have to completely re-stat your
spellcasters to use the material in it. It's got new careers, new types
of magic, magic item creation, familiars, huge amounts of background...
I could be here all night describing what's in it. But it looks great so
far, and I'm really excited about it.

Thomas Biskup

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98
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Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
> One of my players plays a female rustler called Maedchen Fietieb
^^^^^^^

That would have to be 'Viehdieb' :-)

--
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MCV Fenderson

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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James Wallis (Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk) wrote:

: In article <6e8ukk$5rb$1...@star.cs.vu.nl>, Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
: >A book with more background info on the Skaven, what the Moot looks
: >like, stuff about what the life of an average Dwarf looks like, details
: >on Elven society, and perhaps a little bit on how and where to use
: >Fimir, for example, would be really useful.

: We have authors already working on three of your five suggestions -- not
: for an expanded bestiary, but for complete sourcebooks of their own. We
: aim to please.

And it looks like you're doing it well. This is gonna cost me a lot of
money, though. (Oh well, just buy a couple of GURPS books less.)


ttfn,
mcv. <><

MCV Fenderson

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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James Wallis (Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <6e8vqt$cvr$4...@nntp-3.io.com>, Peter Meilinger

: <mell...@io.com> wrote:
: >My question is how different will this be from the Realms of Sorcery
: >I printed off the web? That was damned good. I believe I've heard
: >your ROS will be completely different, but I'm not sure.

: Our Realms of Sorcery will, as you've heard, be completely different.

[...]
: It's


: not a completely new magic system, it's an expansion and rationalisation
: of what's gone before -- so you won't have to completely re-stat your
: spellcasters to use the material in it. It's got new careers, new types
: of magic, magic item creation, familiars, huge amounts of background...
: I could be here all night describing what's in it. But it looks great so
: far, and I'm really excited about it.

A don't mind a serious rewrite of RoS, because some of the
rationalisations were a bit silly, IMO. But I really do like what they
did to alchemists, for example. In the basic book, alchemist are just
are just a kind of lesser wizards, or something, while in RoS they
really could do some things wizards couldn't. (And while I haven't
tried it yet, I think the Aethyr Salts are an improvement and help to
make alchemists different than other wizards.)


ttfn,
mcv. <><

Peter Meilinger

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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MCV Fenderson <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:

> James Wallis (Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : It's
> : not a completely new magic system, it's an expansion and rationalisation
> : of what's gone before -- so you won't have to completely re-stat your
> : spellcasters to use the material in it. It's got new careers, new types
> : of magic, magic item creation, familiars, huge amounts of background...
> : I could be here all night describing what's in it. But it looks great so
> : far, and I'm really excited about it.

> A don't mind a serious rewrite of RoS, because some of the
> rationalisations were a bit silly, IMO. But I really do like what they
> did to alchemists, for example. In the basic book, alchemist are just
> are just a kind of lesser wizards, or something, while in RoS they
> really could do some things wizards couldn't. (And while I haven't
> tried it yet, I think the Aethyr Salts are an improvement and help to
> make alchemists different than other wizards.)

This is a good point. Is there ANYTHING in the rule book to make
an alchemist worth playing? Until I got RoS it seemed they were just
wizards but not as good. Are there any potion descriptions in the
official rules?

Pete


MCV Fenderson

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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Thomas Biskup (bis...@saranxis.ruhr.de) wrote:

: Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
: > One of my players plays a female rustler called Maedchen Fietieb
: ^^^^^^^

: That would have to be 'Viehdieb' :-)

I've been told it's intentionally spellt wrong. (It's "Fietib" actually)
I'm pretty bad at foreign languages I'm afraid (except English), and
most of the others are a lot better at German.


ttfn,
mcv. <><

Michael Lo

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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Will there be anything on Dragon Ogres and Beastmen? I recall there
was quite a bit of interesting information on The Lost and The Damned
you could bring up some of that in your new book.


James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> writes:

>In article <6e8ukk$5rb$1...@star.cs.vu.nl>, Vos MC <mc...@cs.vu.nl> wrote:
>>A book with more background info on the Skaven, what the Moot looks
>>like, stuff about what the life of an average Dwarf looks like, details
>>on Elven society, and perhaps a little bit on how and where to use
>>Fimir, for example, would be really useful.

>We have authors already working on three of your five suggestions -- not
>for an expanded bestiary, but for complete sourcebooks of their own. We
>aim to please.

>--

Michael Lo

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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Hi have you talked to Dave Morris yet? Sorry if I'm impatient but
the books are long out of print and next to impossible to find.


James Wallis <Ja...@hogshead.demon.co.uk> writes:

>In article <6e8qjf$ddm$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo
><m...@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>>
>>Aye, thanks for all the info. Do you have any words of help for
>>me and my search for the Bloodsword! series. I've been hunting
>>that one forever it seems (okay 11 years).

>I've never seen a copy of any of these books, to my knowledge, I'm
>afraid. But Dave Morris lives just down the road from me, so I'll ask
>him about them the next time I see him.

>--

James Wallis

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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In article <6em27g$e5a$1...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Michael Lo

<m...@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>Will there be anything on Dragon Ogres and Beastmen? I recall there
>was quite a bit of interesting information on The Lost and The Damned
>you could bring up some of that in your new book.

We plan to cover them in more depth in the future, but we don't
currently have any commissioned projects which include the sort of
detail you're probably after. Sorry.

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