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deraxeman

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Sep 1, 2004, 3:53:30 PM9/1/04
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A question re. clerics, domains and positive/negative energy. I hope
this makes sense to you all ...

The character is a Chaotic Neutral cleric of a Neutral deity with the
Destruction domain. If the player opts to have this neutral cleric
wield positive energy (i.e., have the ability to spontaneously cast
cure spells), can he also use the Inflict Light Wounds domain spell?
(For the moment, let's put aside the question of whether or not it
makes sense in roleplaying terms.) Thanks.

Doug Lampert

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Sep 1, 2004, 5:09:24 PM9/1/04
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"deraxeman" <dera...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why in the name of god (any god) would he not be able to?

Good clerics of Good deities can cast Inflict Light Wounds, the spell does
not have the Evil descriptor. So he can clearly cast the spell. And if it is
on his domain list he can cast it as a domain spell.

DougL


Nikolas Landauer

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Sep 1, 2004, 4:37:25 PM9/1/04
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deraxeman wrote:
>
> The character is a Chaotic Neutral cleric of a Neutral deity
> with the Destruction domain. If the player opts to have this
> neutral cleric wield positive energy (i.e., have the ability to
> spontaneously cast cure spells), can he also use the Inflict
> Light Wounds domain spell? (For the moment, let's put aside
> the question of whether or not it makes sense in roleplaying
> terms.) Thanks.

Nothing about choosing to channel positive or negative energy prevents
you from using the other type of spell. A LG cleric of a LG god can
prepare /inflict/ spells as much as she wants. A CE cleric of a CE god
can prepare /cure/ spells as much as he wants. Thus, his domain spells
are always available to him. The only time they wouldn't, is if a
Neutral cleric of a Good deity wanted to cast [Evil] domain spells...
Which is unlikely, since I can't think of a Good deity that has [Evil]
spells in any of their domains (except /deathwatch/ for the Repose
domain, now that they decided it has to be [Evil]).

As for your comment about roleplaying terms: Casting these spells has
no relation to alignment, except as you choose to use them. It is
completely valid for a LG cleric to /inflict/ wounds on a demon, as it
is also completely valid for a CE cleric to /cure/ himself.

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Nik

Ubiquitous

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Sep 2, 2004, 12:57:56 PM9/2/04
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deraxeman <dera...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: The character is a Chaotic Neutral cleric of a Neutral deity with the


: Destruction domain. If the player opts to have this neutral cleric
: wield positive energy (i.e., have the ability to spontaneously cast
: cure spells), can he also use the Inflict Light Wounds domain spell?

No. Please try to read the book before asking questions.

Ubiquitous

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Sep 2, 2004, 1:00:00 PM9/2/04
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Nikolas Landauer <daci...@hotmail.diespam.com> wrote:

: Nothing about choosing to channel positive or negative energy prevents


: you from using the other type of spell. A LG cleric of a LG god can
: prepare /inflict/ spells as much as she wants. A CE cleric of a CE god
: can prepare /cure/ spells as much as he wants.

He was asking if a cleric could mix and match turning/rebuking with
spontanious healing/inflicting spells.

deraxeman

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Sep 2, 2004, 2:48:35 PM9/2/04
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Thank you both for clearing that up. It seems I was overanalyzing
rather than just taking the rules at face value.

Chad Lubrecht

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Sep 2, 2004, 8:06:49 PM9/2/04
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No he wasn't, he was asking whether he could prepare and cast Inflict
Wounds when he took the option to spontaneously cast cure spells. He
never mentions turning/rebuking at all.

Ed Chauvin IV

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Sep 2, 2004, 9:41:52 PM9/2/04
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Mere moments before death, Ubiquitous hastily scrawled:

Physician, heal thyself. Of course a cleric who chooses to channel
positive energy can also cast Inflict spells. He just can't cast them
*spontaneously*.

Ed Chauvin IV

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deraxeman

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Sep 3, 2004, 12:46:20 AM9/3/04
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web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote in message news:<ch7jif$l77$1...@news.utelfla.com>...

Uh, no I wasn't. Please try to read the question before spewing forth
an irrelevant comment. Thanks.

Helpful GM

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Sep 3, 2004, 1:46:27 AM9/3/04
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In article <010920041637258118%daci...@hotmail.diespam.com>,
Nikolas Landauer <daci...@hotmail.diespam.com> wrote:

> As for your comment about roleplaying terms: Casting these spells has
> no relation to alignment, except as you choose to use them. It is
> completely valid for a LG cleric to /inflict/ wounds on a demon, as it
> is also completely valid for a CE cleric to /cure/ himself.

True of the inflict spells -- but just to clarify that spells with the
[evil] descriptor ARE evil to cast, and can have an impact on alignment
-- even if you're (for example) desecrating a demon's hide-out, with
good intentions.

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Jeff Heikkinen

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Sep 3, 2004, 4:35:31 AM9/3/04
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Ubiquitous, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...

Uh... YOU are the one who needs to RTFM (that or read the question more
carefully). Being able to spontaneously cast Cure spells (and that's
what he said, nothing about turning in there at all) does not prevent
you from casting Inflict spells by other means (and that's waht he said,
nothing about spontaneously casting them in there at all).

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Keith Davies

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Sep 3, 2004, 8:14:33 AM9/3/04
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On 2004-09-03, Helpful GM <HelpfulGM@*NO-SPAM*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> In article <010920041637258118%daci...@hotmail.diespam.com>,
> Nikolas Landauer <daci...@hotmail.diespam.com> wrote:
>
>> As for your comment about roleplaying terms: Casting these spells has
>> no relation to alignment, except as you choose to use them. It is
>> completely valid for a LG cleric to /inflict/ wounds on a demon, as it
>> is also completely valid for a CE cleric to /cure/ himself.
>
> True of the inflict spells -- but just to clarify that spells with the
> [evil] descriptor ARE evil to cast, and can have an impact on
> alignment -- even if you're (for example) desecrating a demon's
> hide-out, with good intentions.

That's why you use Consecrate rather than Desecrate.


Keith
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Ed Chauvin IV

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Sep 3, 2004, 11:45:40 AM9/3/04
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Mere moments before death, Jeff Heikkinen hastily scrawled:
>Ubiquitous, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...
>> deraxeman <dera...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> : The character is a Chaotic Neutral cleric of a Neutral deity with the
>> : Destruction domain. If the player opts to have this neutral cleric
>> : wield positive energy (i.e., have the ability to spontaneously cast
>> : cure spells), can he also use the Inflict Light Wounds domain spell?
>>
>> No. Please try to read the book before asking questions.
>
>Uh... YOU are the one who needs to RTFM (that or read the question more
>carefully). Being able to spontaneously cast Cure spells (and that's
>what he said, nothing about turning in there at all) does not prevent
>you from casting Inflict spells by other means (and that's waht he said,
>nothing about spontaneously casting them in there at all).

I predict a round of Ubispaz with follow-ups set to alt.test and/or
alt.dev.null. Give it a couple of days.

Bradd W. Szonye

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Sep 3, 2004, 2:08:54 PM9/3/04
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Helpful GM <HelpfulGM@*NO-SPAM*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> True of the inflict spells -- but just to clarify that spells with the
> [evil] descriptor ARE evil to cast, and can have an impact on alignment
> -- even if you're (for example) desecrating a demon's hide-out, with
> good intentions.

It normally isn't an issue for divine casters, because good clerics &c
simply can't cast [Evil] spells.
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd

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