Encyclopedia magica HORRIBLE MISTAKE!
A PASSANTE
looking through the first when I started noticing
something strange...
Every now and then the book said that for some cause
or other the chatacter would suffer XdY of dawizard.
Dawizard??????
Then I realized.
DAMAGE
DA MAGE
DA WIZARD
DAWIZARD!!!!!!!!!
ARGHHH!
Zante
"It was reckoned to be very healthy there.
Very few germs were able to survive"
TSRJIM
Every now and then the book said that for some cause
or other the chatacter would suffer XdY of dawizard.
Dawizard??????
Then I realized.
DAMAGE
DA MAGE
DA WIZARD
DAWIZARD!!!!!!!!!
>>>
Yes, we noticed this as soon as it was printed. Unfortunately, it was too
late to fix the problem. Such is the danger of making global changes... :(
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++ Jim Butler, Editor/Designer +++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++ TSR, Inc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++
=================== Email: TSR...@aol.com==================
Bryan Maloney
>Yes, we noticed this as soon as it was printed. Unfortunately, it was too
>late to fix the problem. Such is the danger of making global changes... :(
Next time, do " mage" to "wizard" instead of "mage" to "wizard". Or maybe
you should specify "whole word only"?
The Amorphous Mass
Better still, do " mage" to " wizard" :) Otherwise thewizard will find
himself glued to every word that preceded the wordwizard. :)
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TSRJIM
Next time, do " mage" to "wizard" instead of "mage" to "wizard". Or maybe
you should specify "whole word only"?
>>>
Agreed. 100%.
The Amorphous Mass
> >>>
> Next time, do " mage" to "wizard" instead of "mage" to "wizard". Or maybe
> you should specify "whole word only"?
> >>>
>
> Agreed. 100%.
NO!!! NO!!! " mage" to " wizard" PLEASE!!! Don't forget that widdle biddy
space in front ofwizard or you'll end up withwizard glued to every word
in front of the wordwizard!!!
You have a chance to correct your error! Don't blow it again!
:) :) :)
-Amorph, the word processorwizard
HotelEcho
>Dawizard??????
>
>Then I realized.
>
>DAMAGE
>DA MAGE
>DA WIZARD
>DAWIZARD!!!!!!!!!
>
reminds me of a little joke someone pulled on me. Our party was in travel
mode from Shadowdale to elsewhere when suddenly we were jumped by a
dozen something-or-others. During the ensuing battle there were many
cries of Pig-tree! Pig-tree! I was confused. When I asked I was told;
Ambush
Ham-Bush
Pig-tree
I had been Pig-treed! Needless to say, I was not amused.
David Whiteley
corrected? And, to formally ask something a lot of people have been
asking, will there ever be a similar product focusing on spells?
Dave Whiteley
John Michael Martz
> >>>
> Every now and then the book said that for some cause
> or other the chatacter would suffer XdY of dawizard.
>
> Dawizard??????
>
> Then I realized.
>
> DAMAGE
> DA MAGE
> DA WIZARD
> DAWIZARD!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
>
> Yes, we noticed this as soon as it was printed. Unfortunately, it was too
> late to fix the problem. Such is the danger of making global changes... :(
COME ON! Don't you spell check the documents before going to press --
especially after having made changes to the document? DAH! There is
simply no excuse.
JOHN
* John M. Martz: Psychology Dept, UNC-CH * *
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* JOHN_...@UNC.EDU * *
TSRJIM
So, will there be a second printing, and if so will the error be
corrected? And, to formally ask something a lot of people have been
asking, will there ever be a similar product focusing on spells?
>>>
I'm guessing that the errors will be fixed, but I haven't been told fior
sure. As to the second portion, "we have heard and obey..."
TSRJIM
COME ON! Don't you spell check the documents before going to press --
especially after having made changes to the document? DAH! There is
simply no excuse.
>>>
The changes were made when the product was being prepared for shipment to
the printer. If a final spellcheck had been run, the errors would have
been caught. Unfortunately, it wasn't and the error got away.
Curtis Frye
> >>>
> COME ON! Don't you spell check the documents before going to press --
> especially after having made changes to the document? DAH! There is
> simply no excuse.
> >>>
> The changes were made when the product was being prepared for shipment to
> the printer. If a final spellcheck had been run, the errors would have
> been caught. Unfortunately, it wasn't and the error got away.
Yeah, it's inexcusable, but at least Jim was up front about what
happened. Considering the dancing that Rob Repp did vis-a-vis copyright,
Jim's availability (which he takes from his money-making time or, more
importantly, his personal time) is most welcome.
Curt
--
"If there's an idea that's too dangerous to be discussed, I want to hear
about it!"
-- Curtis Frye
Robert Machin
>>>>
>>Every now and then the book said that for some cause
>>or other the chatacter would suffer XdY of dawizard.
>>Dawizard??????
>>Then I realized.
>>DAMAGE
>>DA MAGE
>>DA WIZARD
>>DAWIZARD!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>Yes, we noticed this as soon as it was printed. Unfortunately, it was too
>late to fix the problem. Such is the danger of making global changes... :(
So rather than admit your mistake and junk the printing you distributed your
shoddy, second-rate work for sale. It's nice to know that you really don't
give a damn about the quality of what you publish and that you have no
consideration for your customers.
Thanks, your arrogance is appreciated because now I have a reason to
learn a different system.
Rob
--
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== It is easier to pretend that you're in love ==
== than to admit that you're alone. ==
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TSRJIM
So rather than admit your mistake and junk the printing you distributed
your
shoddy, second-rate work for sale. It's nice to know that you really
don't
give a damn about the quality of what you publish and that you have no
consideration for your customers.
>>>
Get real. If we would have had the option to trash the book and do a
complete reprint, we would have done so. By the time we noticed the
change, the product was already printed (that is, on its way to
distributors). The Creative Services staff gets their copies at about the
same time as Random House gets their initial shipment.
p...@nslsilus.org
>tsr...@aol.com (TSRJIM) writes:
>>>>>
>>>Every now and then the book said that for some cause
>>>or other the chatacter would suffer XdY of dawizard.
>>>>>
>>Yes, we noticed this as soon as it was printed. Unfortunately, it was too
>>late to fix the problem. Such is the danger of making global changes... :(
>So rather than admit your mistake and junk the printing you distributed your
>shoddy, second-rate work for sale. It's nice to know that you really don't
>give a damn about the quality of what you publish and that you have no
>consideration for your customers.
I suspect "too late" means "after it had already been on store shelves for a
week." Besides, we flamed TSR for this when the 1st volume came out. No need
to keep on flaming and flaming. (Unless the mistake gets repeated in later
volumes...;) )
>Thanks, your arrogance is appreciated because now I have a reason to
>learn a different system.
Will the last one out please turn off the lights?
Aardy R. DeVarque
Feudalism: Serf & Turf
Eric Mukogawa
: >>>
: So rather than admit your mistake and junk the printing you distributed
: your
: shoddy, second-rate work for sale. It's nice to know that you really
: don't
: give a damn about the quality of what you publish and that you have no
: consideration for your customers.
: Get real. If we would have had the option to trash the book and do a
: complete reprint, we would have done so. By the time we noticed the
: change, the product was already printed (that is, on its way to
: distributors). The Creative Services staff gets their copies at about the
: same time as Random House gets their initial shipment.
: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
: +++++++++++++++ Jim Butler, Editor/Designer +++++++++++++++
: ++++++++++++++++++++++++ TSR, Inc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++
: =================== Email: TSR...@aol.com==================
Personally, I think its sorta funny. Knowing 'dawizard' = 'damage' I
think that I can live with it... the mind will just translate. Thanks
for the info, and realise that some people out here can accept mistakes -
especially when someone is kind enough to point em out and explain why. :)
John Michael Martz
> Personally, I think its sorta funny. Knowing 'dawizard' = 'damage' I
> think that I can live with it... the mind will just translate. Thanks
> for the info, and realise that some people out here can accept mistakes -
> especially when someone is kind enough to point em out and explain why. :)
If it was a rare mistake, I could tolerate it. However, TSR is notorious
for the number of dumb mistakes the make. As I've mentioned to the TSR
rep in personal notes, there is simply no excuse for such an error. The
_last_ thing you do before sending a document to the printers is a final
error check, which includes a final spellcheck -- especially AFTER HAVING
MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging as a global search & replace
where you don't witness every change being made. I can just see trying to
explain such a mistake to my dissertaion chair upon getting the bound copy
of my dissertation back from the printer -- "Well, you see um . . ., I did
a global search & replace on the document, and um . . . I didn't bother to
spellcheck it afterwards." She'd have my head on a spit -- and rightly
so.
Dru A Smith
>>for the number of dumb mistakes the make.
>
>
>>MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging <--- ranging maybe?
>
>>explain such a mistake to my dissertaion <-- dissertation?
>
>People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Look, this nit-picky argument has arisen before and it holds no
water with me. Bruce is NOT charging you money to read his post,
nor is it a professional document.
Most newsreaders don't have a spell-checker for a reason -- the
document is not going to press.
If, however, someone were to publish a book about gaming, in which
they discussed TSR's spell-checking problems, then it might be appropriate
to point out that person's own spelling problems.
Dru Smith
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Bruce Pierpont
the make. <--- do you mean "they make."
>MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging <--- ranging maybe?
>explain such a mistake to my dissertaion <-- dissertation?
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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James Zecca
products and I cannot think of a single one where there
isn't at least one stupid spelling or grammatical error.
The latest printings of the PHB and DMG are a good case
in point.
Also, is it just me or is it annoying that in the Encyclopedia
they always list "of Invisibility", for example, and you have
to read the text or look at the top of the page to see if they
are referring to a ring, potion, etc.?
JJZ
Matt Hurd
>>for the number of dumb mistakes the make.
>
>the make. <--- do you mean "they make."
>
>>MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging <--- ranging maybe?
>
>>explain such a mistake to my dissertaion <-- dissertation?
>
>People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
he didn't market his letter and in fact i didn't have to pay $20.00 plus tax
to read his mistakes. i much prefer it that way...
we all make typos on things that are relatively unimportant. TSR should
consider their products important...
have fun,
matt h.
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"I am not a man ... I am a magician |"Come dance with the West Wind and touch
without magic, and that's no one | all the mountain tops. Sail over the
at all." - Schmendrick the Magician | canyons and up to the stars." - j. denver
Scuminus
: Also, is it just me or is it annoying that in the Encyclopedia
: they always list "of Invisibility", for example, and you have
: to read the text or look at the top of the page to see if they
: are referring to a ring, potion, etc.?
Not to back up TSR on anything (don't much care, as I've been playing Ars
Magica of late, anyway) but this isn't really a problem for most users, I
think. The way in which the Encyclopedia is normally used is to find the
category of item (Ring, Potion, etc.) first, *then* look among the item
listings.
Of course, I also support your god-given right to be annyed at whatever
the hell you like. ;)
- Scuminus Dregg
--
"There are two great sins; the refusal to love and the refusal to forgive.
All else is petty evil." - Barthomier Tulsan
matt shaner
>I can't agree more. I have a great number of different TSR
>products and I cannot think of a single one where there
>isn't at least one stupid spelling or grammatical error.
>The latest printings of the PHB and DMG are a good case
>in point.
>Also, is it just me or is it annoying that in the Encyclopedia
>they always list "of Invisibility", for example, and you have
>to read the text or look at the top of the page to see if they
>are referring to a ring, potion, etc.?
That content is for 'ease of use' it makes it easier to search for the
certain items. and also, I don't usually go though a enclopedia reading
the 'center' and not the the top :)
--
Dorgan, Ambassador of Darch. Loyal devout to the DemiGod Doom
dor...@netcom.com
John Michael Martz
> In article <3srkr9$j...@linus.mitre.org>, Bruce Pierpont <pierpont> wrote:
> >>for the number of dumb mistakes the make.
> >
> >the make. <--- do you mean "they make."
> >
> >>MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging <--- ranging maybe?
> >
> >>explain such a mistake to my dissertaion <-- dissertation?
> >
> >People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
>
> Look, this nit-picky argument has arisen before and it holds no
> water with me. Bruce is NOT charging you money to read his post,
> nor is it a professional document.
Actually, I believe these mistakes are mine -- I've never claimed to be a
superior typist, and I know I'm far from the world's best speller (and I
know I should use my spellchecker, but I'm usually in too much of a rush
-- but when I do it, you haven't spent $25, or whatever the encyclopedia
costs, on shoddy merchandise). Nevertheless, I feel I have a perfect
right to complain about TSR's error. TSR made a stupid error and tried
to "explain" it away. An informal post, such as this one, is a far cry
from a "professional" document that you will sell to the public.
Jim Sisolak
>> for the number of dumb mistakes the make.
BP> the make. <--- do you mean "they make."
>> MADE CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT as far raging <--- ranging maybe?
>> explain such a mistake to my dissertaion <-- dissertation?
BP> People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
People in glass houses shouldn't charge money for their stuff. The poster
did not. For what purpose are you flaming someone with a legit beef?
I'd have mailed this, but it bounced, owing to the fact that you have no
email address in the From line. I'd look into that, were I you.
--
Jim Sisolak | University of Wisconsin - Madison
http://trans4.neep.wisc.edu/~sisolak | Department of Nuclear Engineering
SakiB
stupid errors from TSR..(Probably not good.. oh well)..
Anyways, I really like the lists under sub-catagories such as Dagger,
Armor, etc, etc.. The only porblem is WHERE do I find the stats for some
of it (like the Lorica Segmenta), considering the encyclopedia lists stuff
from the dawn of time through Dec of 1993...
The specific magic items list the source, but I have no idea where to find
some of this other stuff. Am I just being stupid??
Saki