Name of curved-blade dagger?
Len Pitre
sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and what
were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade would
come in very handy.
Thanks,
Len
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Len Pitre wrote:
> I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think) about a
> sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
> ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and what
> were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade would
> come in very handy.
>
I think you mean a scimitar. . . A single curve, right? A wavy blade would be a
kris. I give a scimitar the same stats as a regular longsword, unless it's in the
PHB (I don't have it in front of me at the moment).
>
> Thanks,
> Len
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> Len Pitre wrote:
>
> > I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think)
about a
> > sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
> > blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> > Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats,
and the
> > curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
> > ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called
and what
> > were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that
blade would
> > come in very handy.
> >
>
> I think you mean a scimitar. . . A single curve, right? A wavy blade
would be a
> kris. I give a scimitar the same stats as a regular longsword, unless
it's in the
> PHB (I don't have it in front of me at the moment).
Not in the least. A scimitar is a sword, not a dagger.
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>Kukri. 1d4. Crit, 18-20/x2.
That's what I was thinking.
It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
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john v verkuilen
>On Tue, 8 May 2001, Jeff Wilder wrote:
>>Kukri. 1d4. Crit, 18-20/x2.
>That's what I was thinking.
>It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
>by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
Or by the Gurka regiments in the service of the British. :)
>I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
>lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
It's really more like a hand axe, though, for chopping, given the way the
blade is. Sure the original poster isn't thinking of the jambiya?
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> I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think)
about a
> sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a
Middle-East-type
> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and
the
> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
> ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and
what
> were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade
would
> come in very handy.
>
> Thanks,
> Len
After some searching on Yahoo, it seems to come up most often refered to as
a "jambia", with alternate spellings returned such as: jambiya, jumbae, and
jambyah.
Hope that's what you were looking for.
gummiwulf :)
Tom Syson
mind as well.
Like a kukri, the edge is on the inside of the curve, but as he said, it's
shaped like a sabretooth tiger's fang, a nice gradual curve. The idea was,
you could plunge it into the side of the neck and the shape of it would
guide it toward the front (or in the front, out the side I suppose.) I think
they said it was used in the middle east for assassination, so probably not
much bigger than would be required to cut a throat.
Gene Ha
There are a wide variety of curved knives in the world.
The Kukri is famous as the knife of the Gurkhas. It's a forward curved knife of
great size, and is used more as a hacking machete than a subtle weapon of
assassination. I seriously doubt they named this knife. For one thing, the
Gurkas are neither middle-eastern nor Muslim.
'Jambiya' is probably the term used. It's the classic curved Arab knife, usually
with a very large sheath and a very expensive handle. Both edges are sharp, so
it's good for a long slashing motion, or for cutting throats. Popular from
Morocco to India.
Kindjals are sometimes curved, but are usually straight.
Gene Ha
Len Pitre wrote:
> ... At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice.
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caine
>It's really more like a hand axe, though, for chopping, given the way the
>blade is. Sure the original poster isn't thinking of the jambiya?
I believe you're right.
My bad. :)
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Ron Copeland
>I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
>lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
D&D damages always seem kind of low. 1d4 for a weapon that can cut
your throat, 1d8 for one that can impale you, and so on.
Since I've gone to the WP/VP system, I've been thinking of doubling
D&D weapon damages, i.e. 2d8 for a longsword. The current damages are
fine when a 0-level person has 1d4 hit points, but now that every
adult human in my campaign has 3d6 wound points, the weapon damages
need to be scaled upward.
Ron
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Not the same weapon as what the original poster meant, though. The kukri
has a sudden and sharply angling blade, no? Whereas the jambiyya is
actually curved, and also was indeed designed to cut throats and slashes
quite excellently. It also is specifically Middle Eastern (Arab) as
opposed to the Nepalese (Indian subcontinent) kukri; I believe the
original post referred to a Discovery channel special on Middle Eastern
weaponry, but perhaps I misremember....
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Len Pitre wrote:
>
> I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think) about a
> sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
> ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and what
> were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade would
> come in very handy.
This is most likely a jambiyya. The al-Qadim sourcebook lists its stats
(for 2nd ed.) as follows:
Weight: 1 lb Size: S Type: Piercing/Slashing Speed: 3 Damage: 1d4
I have one myself I bought in Cairo. It's kept its edge these past 9
years without any help from me (don't know if that's typical or if I
just lucked out when I chose mine!).
Sir Bob
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Ibn Tumart
Sir Bob wrote:
>
> Why wouldn't it keep its edge? Have you been... using it?
>
> - Sir Bob.
>
> P.S. Nih!
Um... no, of course not, heh, why on earth would I use such a thing??
Seriously I did show it to a friend once, who, well, let's say there was
an unfortunate accident and he received stitches for a minor injury (a
finger was cut). I'm much more attentive when showing off my blade
collection nowadays....
I did buy the jambiyya used. It had been used to slit a few animal
throats.
Sir Bob
>
>
> Sir Bob wrote:
> >
> > Why wouldn't it keep its edge? Have you been... using it?
> >
> > - Sir Bob.
> >
> > P.S. Nih!
>
> Um... no, of course not, heh, why on earth would I use such a
thing??
>
> Seriously I did show it to a friend once, who, well, let's say
there was
> an unfortunate accident and he received stitches for a minor
injury (a
> finger was cut). I'm much more attentive when showing off my
blade
> collection nowadays....
<snip>
I'll second that. I've got a bone-deep gash on my left pinkie
right now 'cause I wasn't watching here I set the knife down
while dicing strawberries. You know that some plastic-handled
kitchen knives these days are weighted such that if you're not
careful when setting 'em down they come to rest with the edge
upright? Nasty.
Fitz
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The khukri isn't really a dagger, since it's not primarily a stabbing
weapon. I'd put it in a similar class with the parang or machete.
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<snip>
> Since I've gone to the WP/VP system, I've been thinking of doubling
> D&D weapon damages, i.e. 2d8 for a longsword. The current damages are
> fine when a 0-level person has 1d4 hit points, but now that every
> adult human in my campaign has 3d6 wound points, the weapon damages
> need to be scaled upward.
1d4->3d6 is approximately a factor of 4.
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For example if you had a knife witha 1d4 and you rolled a 4 you would get another d4 to roll. If you were lucky enough to roll another 4 well then roll another d4...and so on.
This put a stop to the fighter's just shrugging off characters with daggers or crossbows.
It makes the low level magic user casting magic missile useful, and a mid level one casting fireball scarry.
Suddenly the players started to respect weapons that do 1d4, 1d6, or 2d4 damage.
This reroll rule was used on each die. So if there was a 5d6 any of the die that came up 6 would mean add another d6.
And yes we allow the x2 multiplier on crits. And the backstab multipliers as well.
This does work both ways (healing spell, skill, potions).
Tom Garnett
> right now 'cause I wasn't watching here I set the knife down
> while dicing strawberries. You know that some plastic-handled
> kitchen knives these days are weighted such that if you're not
> careful when setting 'em down they come to rest with the edge
> upright? Nasty.
I had a friend with a cheap katana-type sword (sort of guy with shaved head
and a pierced eyebrow, not the martial artist sort), he was showing off
throwing it around, and caught it by the sharp end...
Severed the tendon on his right hand, between the thumb and the forefinger -
to the bone...
Having said that, I knew a guy who did the same, on a cheap computer case!
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>
> Kukri. 1d4. Crit, 18-20/x2.
No.A kukri is one of those "bent" looking daggers with s real serious
heft to them. They are the favoured weapon of the dreaded Gurkas.
The weapon in question is the Kirpan, traditionaly carried by Sikhs.
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Ron Copeland
>> Since I've gone to the WP/VP system, I've been thinking of doubling
>> D&D weapon damages, i.e. 2d8 for a longsword. The current damages are
>> fine when a 0-level person has 1d4 hit points, but now that every
>> adult human in my campaign has 3d6 wound points, the weapon damages
>> need to be scaled upward.
>
>1d4->3d6 is approximately a factor of 4.
Yes it is. But to multiply weapon damages by 4 would make them very
deadly indeed, which is not what I want to do here. I think it's good
that a crit hurt badly, with a possibility but not a guarantee of
death (you can be impaled but still be alive, barely). The *average*
damage from a 4d8 longsword would kill and 18 con/WP character
outright.
Ron
caine
>The way we got around the low damage was to have open ended rolls on all damage.
Rolemaster fan eh?
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Len Pitre
>No, not the kukri, I saw the show too, and damned if it hasn't slipped my
>mind as well.
Been a while. I can still picture the shot of the guy sitting there saying
where he found the blade, but that's it.:\
>Like a kukri, the edge is on the inside of the curve, but as he said, it's
>shaped like a sabretooth tiger's fang, a nice gradual curve. The idea was,
>you could plunge it into the side of the neck and the shape of it would
>guide it toward the front (or in the front, out the side I suppose.) I think
>they said it was used in the middle east for assassination, so probably not
>much bigger than would be required to cut a throat.
Yeah. About a 7 inch blade, I'd say.
Len Pitre
>After some searching on Yahoo, it seems to come up most often refered to as
>a "jambia", with alternate spellings returned such as: jambiya, jumbae, and
>jambyah.
>
>Hope that's what you were looking for.
(Looks around.) Like this?
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/ah3.htm
Yeah, so far of all the posts, this is the closest to what I'm talking about.
The one I remember seeing was a bit plainer, but otherwise had the same
general shape. Thanks!
Len Pitre
(Snip)
>'Jambiya' is probably the term used. It's the classic curved Arab knife,
> usually
>with a very large sheath and a very expensive handle. Both edges are sharp, so
>it's good for a long slashing motion, or for cutting throats. Popular from
>Morocco to India.
Yep, this seems to be it, unless there's a weapon of similar shape. Thanks!
Len Pitre
>> I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think) about
> a
>> sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
>> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
>> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
>> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
>> ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and
> what
>> were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade
> would
>> come in very handy.
>
>This is most likely a jambiyya. The al-Qadim sourcebook lists its stats
>(for 2nd ed.) as follows:
>
>Weight: 1 lb Size: S Type: Piercing/Slashing Speed: 3 Damage: 1d4
Excellect! Just what I needed, unless some other similarly-shaped weapon
appears somewhere.:) Thanks very much!
Len Pitre
So far, it looks like the "jambia" (
http://www.liongate-armsandarmour.com/ah3.htm for I picture I just found) is
the one that I'm looking for. Still, thanks to everyone for the (continuing)
discussion. There's tons of exotic weapons I didn't know about, that's for
sure.
krusherjoe
Fitz wrote in message
> >>Kukri. 1d4. Crit, 18-20/x2.
> >
> >That's what I was thinking.
> >It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
> >by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
> >
> >I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
> >lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
>
> The khukri isn't really a dagger, since it's not primarily a stabbing
> weapon. I'd put it in a similar class with the parang or machete.
I looked up the kukri in a weapons encyclopedia that I have. It lists the
kukri as a short sword used by the Gurkha troops in the British, Indian, and
Nepalese armies since the 19th century. It also states that contrary to
popular belief the kukri was not a thrown weapon. The encyclopedia also
displays 3 different version of this weapon.
krusherjoe
http://www.case.sk/noze/Burza/kirpan/kirpan.html
Kenny
> > >
> > >That's what I was thinking.
> > >It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
> > >by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
> > >
> > >I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
> > >lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
<heh> Actually seeing weapons up close is always a real
eye-opener and you realise how arbitrary and puny the damage dice
in DnD assigned to these weapons really are.
Apparently the Ghurkas used to sneak into Japanese camps in during
WWII and slit the throats of the sentries but leave the rest of the camp
alone. The next morning, the surviving Japanese would find out *just* how
exposed they were the previous night.
K
Dr Nuncheon
Kenny <kc...@well.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >That's what I was thinking.
>> > >It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
>> > >by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
>> > >
>> > >I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting it
>> > >lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
>
> <heh> Actually seeing weapons up close is always a real
>eye-opener and you realise how arbitrary and puny the damage dice
>in DnD assigned to these weapons really are.
Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points, remember!), a
longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost certain
to...what more do you need?
If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in the wrong
game.
> Apparently the Ghurkas used to sneak into Japanese camps in during
>WWII and slit the throats of the sentries but leave the rest of the camp
>alone.
Sounds like the very definition of a Sneak Attack to me...and Ghurkas,
special forces, etc would all probably have some Rogue levels in D&D
terms.
There's also the coup de grace action, which could also possibly be used.
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>
>Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points, remember!), a
>longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost certain
>to...what more do you need?
>
>If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in the wrong
>game.
One of the things that gave my group a few chuckles was how a housecat
can kill a man. The average commoner has 2 hit points, and a cat has 2
attacks per round, doing 1 point each.
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caine
<snip>
>Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points, remember!), a
>longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost certain
>to...what more do you need?
>If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in the wrong
>game.
My original point was 1d4 was a little soft (I'd accept 1d4+1 though).
It's not going to do as much as any type of "sword" due simply to it's
cutting length and size in _normal_ combat.
There are physical truths that aren't represented in the game in order to
make it more workable. In reality, though an axe might do less "damage"
than a longsword, it would have a greater chance of chopping off an arm or
other appendage. That's the type of advantage a Kukri would have over a
normal dagger, in addition to its size advantage. How you handle that
difference (if at all) is up to you.
Even though it's very difficult to down a hero(tm) with a single blow,
it's not impossible (vorpal weapons aside). Characters can be inflicted
with minor, yet lethal injuries (critical hits) that cause them to lose
blood at an accelerated rate. Called shots can take out the heros(tm)
sight, hearing, locomotion, or means of attack. So on and so forth.
That's why adventuring parties tend to do better than a single *hero* of
equivalent power in the D&D world.
-- Caine --
thomas jorgensen
Hong Ooi wrote:
> On Wed, 09 May 2001 13:43:39 GMT, je...@fnord.io.com (Dr Nuncheon)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points, remember!), a
> >longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost certain
> >to...what more do you need?
> >
> >If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in the wrong
> >game.
>
> One of the things that gave my group a few chuckles was how a housecat
> can kill a man. The average commoner has 2 hit points, and a cat has 2
> attacks per round, doing 1 point each.
Isn't that only for wizard fammilars? In which case it is actually kinda
appropriate..
Sir Bob
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> On Wed, 09 May 2001 13:43:39 GMT, je...@fnord.io.com (Dr
Nuncheon)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points,
remember!), a
> >longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost
certain
> >to...what more do you need?
> >
> >If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in
the wrong
> >game.
>
> One of the things that gave my group a few chuckles was how a
housecat
> can kill a man. The average commoner has 2 hit points, and a
cat has 2
> attacks per round, doing 1 point each.
Actually, a housecat *can* kill a man in reality - provided it
can get close enough. This is reflected in D&D - as Tiny
creatures, housecats have no reach, so to attack a Medium-size
target they must enter the target's square, drawing an attack of
opportunity. And even an unarmed AoO by the average commoner
will render a cat unconscious most o' the time.
Dr Nuncheon
caine <ca...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>On Wed, 9 May 2001, Dr Nuncheon wrote:
><snip>
>>Um? A dagger can kill a man (commoners have 1d4 hit points, remember!), a
>>longsword is more than likely to, a two-handed sword is almost certain
>>to...what more do you need?
><snip>
>>If you want a single sword blow to down a /hero/...you're in the wrong
>>game.
>
>My original point was 1d4 was a little soft (I'd accept 1d4+1 though).
I dunno why you think this...generally, a knife wound is not going to kill
a person unless you get in a good hit. The ghurkas from the example were
doing everything they could to maximize their chances of making that 'good
hit'.
>There are physical truths that aren't represented in the game in order to
>make it more workable. In reality, though an axe might do less "damage"
>than a longsword, it would have a greater chance of chopping off an arm or
>other appendage. That's the type of advantage a Kukri would have over a
>normal dagger, in addition to its size advantage. How you handle that
>difference (if at all) is up to you.
Maybe give it a crit of 20/x3 instead of x2? (Like an axe...)
caine
>>My original point was 1d4 was a little soft (I'd accept 1d4+1 though).
>I dunno why you think this...generally, a knife wound is not going to kill
Maybe in D&D terms. The reason I voted for the +1 is because the kukri is
larger and heavier than a normal dagger, even though it's still in the
same general weapon/size category. It could also stem from the fact that
it's primarily a slashing weapon, as opposed to a piercing weapon.
</snip>
>Maybe give it a crit of 20/x3 instead of x2? (Like an axe...)
That would work too.
<related topic>
In reality it all depends on the location hit. A slashing
weapon will do more "damage" than a piercing weapon on an appendage
because it's more likely to sever muscles/tendons/etc, while a piercing
weapon will deal more with the puncturing of veins and arteries, leaving
the muscles [relatively] unharmed. On the same note, for hits against the
torso a piercing weapon has a greater chance of hitting vital organs than
a slashing weapon. All of this gets muddled when you think about a
generalized critical hit system though, so it ends up being this nebulous
thing that we use for the sake of brevity. "It only takes an inch of
steel to kill a man" is absolutely true, but the current system doesn't
capture that level of detail - unless you use the optional critical hit
tables... and even then...
<end topic>
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Karl Knechtel
> Actually, a housecat *can* kill a man in reality - provided it
> can get close enough. This is reflected in D&D - as Tiny
> creatures, housecats have no reach, so to attack a Medium-size
> target they must enter the target's square, drawing an attack of
> opportunity. And even an unarmed AoO by the average commoner
> will render a cat unconscious most o' the time.
^^^^
>
... But until you actually *observe* the commoner's 5' square, the cat is in a
superposition of conscious and unconscious states, right? ;)
Sir Bob
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I did *not* say the commoner's name was Schrodinger.
Karl Knechtel
<snip>
> <related topic>
> In reality it all depends on the location hit. A slashing
> weapon will do more "damage" than a piercing weapon on an appendage
> because it's more likely to sever muscles/tendons/etc, while a piercing
> weapon will deal more with the puncturing of veins and arteries, leaving
> the muscles [relatively] unharmed. On the same note, for hits against the
> torso a piercing weapon has a greater chance of hitting vital organs than
> a slashing weapon. All of this gets muddled when you think about a
> generalized critical hit system though, so it ends up being this nebulous
Not at all. The critical hit with the slashing weapon simply hits somewhere
else than the critical with the piercing weapon. Both do a x times their
normal damage according to how much nastier the weapon is if placed properly.
> thing that we use for the sake of brevity. "It only takes an inch of
> steel to kill a man" is absolutely true, but the current system doesn't
> capture that level of detail - unless you use the optional critical hit
> tables... and even then...
> <end topic>
Karl Knechtel {:>
dave brohman & shoshana bir
The weapon indicated in the original question was indeed a Jambiya.
Guess I'm getting my curved daggers mixed up again. :)
Brian
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>
>
> caine wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001, Jeff Wilder wrote:
> > >Kukri. 1d4. Crit, 18-20/x2.
> >
> > It's also called a Gurkha knife, since it was used (obviously enough)
> > by the Gurkhas in Nepal against the British.
> >
> > I actually have one of these at home, and I think 1d4 might be putting
it
> > lightly. It's a shockingly effective weapon.
> >
>
> Not the same weapon as what the original poster meant, though. The kukri
> has a sudden and sharply angling blade, no? Whereas the jambiyya is
> actually curved, and also was indeed designed to cut throats and slashes
> quite excellently. It also is specifically Middle Eastern (Arab) as
> opposed to the Nepalese (Indian subcontinent) kukri; I believe the
> original post referred to a Discovery channel special on Middle Eastern
> weaponry, but perhaps I misremember....
I will never forget what a kukri is, i was sharpening one (yes, an
authentic) for a friend when I was
about 15. His dad gave it to him (and his dad got it while in the Rangers
in the 50's or 60's)..
What I remember most is the sudden shock and realization that scabbards on a
weapon like that
might not be of the same quality as the weapon, and that never again would I
grab the scabbard
at the little elbow while drawing or sheathing, or any time since then. 25
years later I still have visible scars, but
once is all it took.
juliu...@gmail.com
Spalls Hurgenson
>I know this is 16 years late but the knife is called a karabit it is used for cutting and stabbing. And is widely know in western Asian countries.
player whose character fought dual-wielded. He weapons of choice were
two long curved daggers. He named the one in his left hand "Gore",
which was arguably a fearsome and threatening name for a weapon
carried by such a thuggish character. The dagger in the right hand,
though, he named "Bush" (which may also give you an idea as to the
timeframe of this story). Needless to say, he held the blades so they
"leaned" (curved) appropriately to the left and right. Of course,
this was a role-playing-heavy group, so he had an in-game reason for
the names; the left-hand blade was all jagged and made a bloody mess,
whilst the right-hand blade had a filigreed shrubbery on its hilt.
<rolls eyes> Players.
gilloo...@gmail.com
> I was watching something on the Discovery Channel (last month I think) about a
> sabre-toothed tiger. At one point, they made reference to a Middle-East-type
> blade that has an uncanny resemblance to a sabre-tooth's large teeth.
> Apparently the blade was made primarily for cutting people's throats, and the
> curve in it helped improve the odds of a fatal slice. Has any D&D campaign
> ever made use of such a blade, and if so, what was it actually called and what
> were the stats for it? I just started writing something where that blade would
> come in very handy.
>
>
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