What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D
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Ken Andrews
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>What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
One that I saw from Grimtooth's a number of years ago.
A chest, sitting on a dirt floor. You pick the lock and then try to
lift the lid. The lid is very heavy (actually coated with thick
lead). When the lid finally flips back, it turns out to be heavy
enough to make the entire box flip over backwards.
That's when you find out about the 2X4 nailed to the underside of the
box, sticking forward about 4 feet, and just barely covered by the
dirt.
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Illusion traps kick uberass if no one has the forethought to consider
it's an illusion.
Perfect example: create the illusion of a 10 x 10 x 100+ foot pit in a
hallway, right in front of a REAL 10 x 10 x whatever pit that has an
illusion over it to make it look like a floor. If the characters jump,
they fall into the real pit. If the party throws someone over, they
throw their comrade into the pit.
Fun eh?
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Clangador wrote:
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> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
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Tome of Horrors. IMHO this is not an adventure, it's a death trap to
kill off high level characters with (nearly) no possible reward, or
reason to do so.
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Scott Schimmel
>What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
The pressure plate.
DM: "As you walk forward along the hallway, one section of the floor
depresses slightly, making an audible clicking noise."
[Players scramble to dive for cover. Time passes.]
Player: "Well? What happens?"
DM: "Nothing, as far as you can tell."
[Players spend more time searching around, trying to figure it out.]
Player: "I guess something else must have set it off first. Lucky
us."
Ten minutes later, *click*.
Half an hour after that, *click*.
And so forth. The first few will incite that panic reaction. But
that's not the insidious part. The insidious part is that, sooner or
later, they'll start ignoring those clicks.
And eventually, they'll hit one that actually triggers a trap. ^_^
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D.J.
schi...@voicenet.com (Scott Schimmel) wrote:
] And eventually, they'll hit one that actually triggers a trap. ^_^
Or them finding a secret door and open it. Which opens a long deep
pit blocking the way out. And none of them have the spell, etc. Fly
or Levitate.
Or a stairs, that when they say 'Open Sesame', parts vertically in
such a was as to block the way out completely. The only way left to
go is to go down the passageway that just opened. No, they didn't
have stone to mud, etc. available.
JimP.
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Douglas Bailey
> >clan...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Clangador) wrote:
> ...create the illusion of a 10 x 10 x 100+ foot pit in a
> hallway, right in front of a REAL 10 x 10 x whatever pit that has an
> illusion over it to make it look like a floor. If the characters jump,
> they fall into the real pit. If the party throws someone over, they
> throw their comrade into the pit.
Along similar lines: I always liked the simple hallway-width pit (of
acid, spikes, or whatever) with a _wall of force_ on the other side,
parallel to the far wall of the pit but blocking the hallway.
If the party bothers to _detect magic_, they'll know better than to try
jumping it. But if not... *jump* *bounce* *fall* *scream*.
It's the simple things in life that make us happy. :-)
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Tim Fitzmaurice
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> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
Cleverly designed teleport zones in long straight corridors.....everyone
teleports instantly, ideally backed up with illusions to show what they
would see beyond the corridor.
Plays all hell with mapping, and really allows some nasty surprises...but
is detectable but assorted psi abilites and if done right with a dwarf or
similar undergroundy.
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Piotr Kapis
> On 20 Aug 2002, Clangador wrote:
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> > What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
>
> Cleverly designed teleport zones in long straight
corridors.....everyone
> teleports instantly, ideally backed up with illusions to show what
they
> would see beyond the corridor.
There is only one trouble. The only spell that allows teleporting
unwilling creatures is Teleportation Circle, and it costs a lot to
cast, and IIRC 4000 XP to make it permanent. If you want to have
several such things, you will spend a lot of power.
> Tim
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Tim Fitzmaurice
1) Its a trap....specially made most likely so perfectly acceptable to
have non standard magic in it. This is a routine phenomenon in DnD. Whats
presented in the PHB isnt the full extent of magic...just what the PCs
have iniital access to as standard...
2) So its expensive...does this make it less insidiously evil.
Gordon Emore
Clangador wrote:
> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
Background details thrown in for color.
Gordon
Firelock
> Fun eh?
Of course.
A variation on Doug Bailey's variation on pit traps...
a nasty corridor-width trap that the characters can
jump over. While a Wall of Force at the far end of
the pit is fun, it is also detectable by magic. How
about stringing a fine, strong wire at the appropriate
height across the middle of the pit? In the dim lights
of a dungeon, it ought to be quite hard to spot.
He leaps...he trips!...the DM scores! ;-)
For more entertainment, have the wire be a "tripwire"
as well - got to give the rest of the party something
to do while their comrade is boiling alive, don't we?
Walt Smith
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Tim Fitzmaurice
> A variation on Doug Bailey's variation on pit traps...
> a nasty corridor-width trap that the characters can
> jump over. While a Wall of Force at the far end of
I had a variation once...nasty pit trap in an area populated by really
short monsters...controlled by a taller (ie man sized) group. The trap
being the alleged entry way....
The way across was a swing-rope...which just happened to be a rope of
entangling with non detection cast on it and permanenced.
Oh the fun.....
Mr. M.J. Lush
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>What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
(a grimtooth trap)
A bog standard pit trap filled with whipped cream
if you fall in you can't see the way out its too slippery to
climb and your drowning in whipped cream....
Add a light sprinkle of hundreds and thousands
for humiliation and death in equal measure.
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Kirby Kuah
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>What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
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Just came up one... game last weekend...
The PCs went into a gnome shop filled with their latest inventions. A
horde of gnome sorcerers stayed in the background and kept on casting
suggestion spells.
"Buy! Buy! Buy! Buy! Buy!"
The PC ran, long and hard...
K.
Willie
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Gorgolunds Gauntlet I believe was the adventure. The trap was a web
of fine fishing line complete with tiny fishhooks. Of course, never one to
leave well enough alone, I put a mild poison on the tip of the hooks. The
look on the faces of the people caught in the trap was priceless. They
were lower level characters (as well as lower level players! hehe) and
all I had to do was have a giant spider (actually a husk of one) swing
down from the ceiling to scatter them into the next room! While they were
trapped in the "web" small critters plinked them with tiny javelins. It was
totally unexpected and a GREAT time! Noone died, but everyone re-
membered it for a LONG time.
Kershek
tj...@cus.cam.ac.uk says...
> I had a variation once...nasty pit trap in an area populated by really
> short monsters...controlled by a taller (ie man sized) group. The trap
> being the alleged entry way....
>
> The way across was a swing-rope...which just happened to be a rope of
> entangling with non detection cast on it and permanenced.
Put a skeleton hanging from the rope and see if they get the hint :)
William Travis
> >What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
I like one of the simple ones adapted from Traps & Treachery (a D20 add on).
The trap appears to be a simple pit trap covered by a thin false floor, easy
enough to find and then work around, the pit drops down to a set of poison
coated spikes. Nothing new, nothing hard the characters think, however on
the far side of this corridor wide, 10 foot long, 30 foot deep pit is a nice
10 feet wide by 5 feet long pressure plate which triggers a 10 feet long, 3
feet diameter log that falls from the ceiling hanging longways on chains
that swings back towards the pit knocking anything it its path backwards
5-10 feet. The pull of the chains in turn triggers a set of spike to rise
from the floor in front of the pressure plate, not a lot of them but they
cover a nice 10 foot section.
Thus leaping, vaulting, or in anyway crossing the pit that involves touching
the floor on the other side will drop the swinging log on a chain that
knocks the character backwards into the pit trap they just avoided. Reflex
save DC 20 to avoid being hit by the log (jumping over it or under it,
failure requires a DC30 Fortitude save to avoid being knocked backwards into
the pit, if the person makes the 1st reflex save they have to make a second
set to avoid getting knocked forward on the back-swing into the fresh set of
spikes.
No magic needed, just pulleys and poisons.
Zarchery
> Clangador wrote:
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> > What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
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> Tome of Horrors. IMHO this is not an adventure, it's a death trap to
> kill off high level characters with (nearly) no possible reward, or
> reason to do so.
I hear the Tomb of Horrors is pretty nasty too. The traps are so
deadly that even the most talented rouge will get tripped up.
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A 10x10x10 pit filled with whipped cream.
Too much to eat.
Too thin to swim in (even if the PC's remove their armor).
Too thin to "dig" your way out of.
IIRC, no *known* spells work on whipped cream. Airy Water? Nope.
Transmute Mud to Rock? Nope...
'Course there's teleporting out, and so forth, but the idea that they'd TRY
to swim or eat their way out is amusing in an of itself. IIRC the trap is
from a Grimtooth book (Traps Too?)
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>Tome of Horrors. IMHO this is not an adventure, it's a death trap to
>kill off high level characters with (nearly) no possible reward, or
>reason to do so.
The Tomb of Horrors works on only one level: A one-shot where the players know,
going in, that this is a death trap and the real challenge is seeing how long
they can survive. At that level, it's a blast.
Justin Bacon
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Neosaurus
>know,
>going in, that this is a death trap and the real challenge is seeing how long
>they can survive. At that level, it's a blast.
The Tomb of Horrors is great as a tourist trap, too. "Oooh, it's the idol
mouth! Quick, throw a coin in and make a wish!"
--Sean Curtin
Jason Tamez
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>Thus leaping, vaulting, or in anyway crossing the pit that involves touching
>the floor on the other side will drop the swinging log on a chain that
>knocks the character backwards into the pit trap they just avoided. Reflex
>save DC 20 to avoid being hit by the log (jumping over it or under it,
>failure requires a DC30 Fortitude save to avoid being knocked backwards into
>the pit, if the person makes the 1st reflex save they have to make a second
>set to avoid getting knocked forward on the back-swing into the fresh set of
>spikes.
This sounds suspiciously like a "Home Alone" movie....
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Karkadinn
>The Tomb of Horrors works on only one level: A one-shot where the players
>know,
>going in, that this is a death trap and the real challenge is seeing how long
>they can survive. At that level, it's a blast.
Okay... now I just HAVE to ask. I've been repressing the query for quite some
time now but can't do it anymore.
What makes tToH so much more deadly than any other adventure published? I
tried a google search to find a review of the product, but came up with "Return
to the Tomb of Horrors", which probably isn't quite the same thing. I'm REALLY
curious now....
Tim Fitzmaurice
Pah...what are you, a soft DM?... :) Put the skeleton in the pit where it
would fall, right in the middle under the rope..a pile of skeletons with
the lower ones crushed if you really want to give a clue :)
Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y
Karkadinn <kark...@aol.com> wrote:
>Justin Bacon said:
>
>>The Tomb of Horrors works on only one level: A one-shot where the players
>>know,
>>going in, that this is a death trap and the real challenge is seeing how long
>>they can survive. At that level, it's a blast.
>
>Okay... now I just HAVE to ask. I've been repressing the query for quite some
>time now but can't do it anymore.
>What makes tToH so much more deadly than any other adventure published?
It's classic Gygax at his best/worst, with the dial set to 11.
Full of instant-death minimal-warning traps and "puzzles".
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>>> The Tomb of Horrors works on only one level: A one-shot where the
>>> players know, going in, that this is a death trap and the real
>>> challenge is seeing how long they can survive. At that level, it's a
>>> blast.
> Karkadinn <kark...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Okay... now I just HAVE to ask. I've been repressing the query for
>> quite some time now but can't do it anymore. What makes tToH so much
>> more deadly than any other adventure published?
Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y <lei...@pvv.ntnu.no> wrote:
> It's classic Gygax at his best/worst, with the dial set to 11. Full
> of instant-death minimal-warning traps and "puzzles".
In the introduction to Return to the Tomb of Horrors, Gary Gygax wrote:
Why then the scenario in the first place? ... I developed the
material that was to become the /Tomb of Horrors/, and I admit to
chuckling evilly as I did so. There were several very expert players
in my campaign, and this was meant as yet another challenge to their
skill -- and the persistence of their theretofore-invincible
characters. Specifically I had in mind foiling Rob Kuntz's PC,
Robilar, and Ernie Gygax's PC, Tenser. [Robilar], by expending a lot
of orc servants, managed to get through to the final encounter ....
[He and Tenser] managed to attain the ultimate, destroyed Acererak,
and ... left laden with loot ....
Although most who dared the hazard failed, at least on the first
go-round, there were those exceptional few who managed to play
through and succeed to some degree.
So there you have it: He originally conceived it as a "killer dungeon"
to finally kill off Robilar and Tenser, but they managed to win against
the incredible odds.
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> A 10x10x10 pit filled with whipped cream.
> IIRC, no *known* spells work on whipped cream. Airy Water? Nope.
> Transmute Mud to Rock? Nope...
A cold spell should freeze the whipped cream, and it has so many
air bubbles that it should then be easily shattered.
A fire spell should evaporate the liquids from it and carmelize the
rest into a sticky, but survivable mess.
If spells for controlling water work on any water-based liquid,
then they should work in this situation - whipped cream could be
seen as just a thick liquid beaten to a froth.
Kershek
> > > I had a variation once...nasty pit trap in an area populated by really
> > > short monsters...controlled by a taller (ie man sized) group. The trap
> > > being the alleged entry way....
> > >
> > > The way across was a swing-rope...which just happened to be a rope of
> > > entangling with non detection cast on it and permanenced.
> >
> > Put a skeleton hanging from the rope and see if they get the hint :)
>
> Pah...what are you, a soft DM?... :) Put the skeleton in the pit where it
> would fall, right in the middle under the rope..a pile of skeletons with
> the lower ones crushed if you really want to give a clue :)
Ah, that's a better idea :)
Justin Bacon
>Okay... now I just HAVE to ask. I've been repressing the query for quite some
>time now but can't do it anymore.
>What makes tToH so much more deadly than any other adventure published? I
>tried a google search to find a review of the product, but came up with
"Return
>to the Tomb of Horrors", which probably isn't quite the same thing. I'm
>REALLY curious now....
A module with, essentially, random death traps. Traps on the variety of: "The
PCs walk into a room which they can have absolutely no idea is trapped. Roll
1d6. On a roll of 1-5, the PCs die."
Classic Gygaxian DM vs. Player.
Justin Bacon
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Roland Steiner
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> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
That's EASY: it involves a simple wooden door, a few rabid rats, some
glue and a one-legged Dwarf. It allegedly resulted in four PC deaths,
two failed attempts at resurrection, and a decapitation!!!
</obscure reference>
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>>Fun eh?
>>
>
> Of course.
>
<snip>
> He leaps...he trips!...the DM scores! ;-)
>
> For more entertainment, have the wire be a "tripwire"
> as well - got to give the rest of the party something
> to do while their comrade is boiling alive, don't we?
Hrmmm another variation.
imagine a corridor (10' wide, and 30'+ long)
in the middle of the dust covered floor is a very obvious pit (with a
rope allowing characters to swing across)
however, when the characters swing across, they land on thin wooden
planks which are lightly covered in dirt - instead of a stone floor like
they are expecting)
this leads the characters to plummet into a pit (not spiked as they are
expecting) lined with wet hay. When the characters try to light a fire
so they can see, they soon discover that the hay is soaked in oil (or
some other flamable substance)
To make it more dramatic, have the characters stumble on this pit after
chasing a kobold (or goblin - or other similarly smaller creature) as
the planks will support 30 - 50 lbs, but nothing much heavier.
I can't remember where we encountered that one...
Kits, yep scary thought (kobolds with torches)
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I kind of enjoyed that sphere of annihilation though, made for some
rather humourous death scenes. ;O)
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>I kind of enjoyed that sphere of annihilation though, made for some
>rather humourous death scenes. ;O)
Yeah, one group played the module. When they found the demon mouth on
the wall at the very beginning of the adventure, they formed a line,
and jumped through the mouth. Game over.
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> Franklin Bratcher <ach...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>I kind of enjoyed that sphere of annihilation though, made for some
>>rather humourous death scenes. ;O)
>
> Yeah, one group played the module. When they found the demon mouth on
> the wall at the very beginning of the adventure, they formed a line,
> and jumped through the mouth. Game over.
The cube cylinder is my invention... and entry way into a high level monk's
home.
100 foot high, 3 foot diameter shiny metal cylinder with a trapdoor at the
top and bottom that both open in towards the inside.
Stretching the entire length of the cylinder are 8 fine wires against the
surface of the inside of the cylinder recessed into fine indentations in the
cylinder. They are equally spaced around the cylinder.
if any wire is touched, all eight wires spiral in and out again (in pairs)
within 2 seconds doing 20d6 points of damage per pair.
A reflex saving throw per move action at DC 35 avoids touching any wires.
Climb rolls may also need to be made - a failed climb roll gives you a faster
movement rate, but a -20 on your save.
If you move at faster than 100 feet in one round you get an additional reflex
save to take half damage (as you leave the cylinder before the wires snap
fully in).
Finally magic is dampened (read anti-magic) in the entire cylinder.
Neither trapdoor is locked, but they do open toward the inside (so it is a
little difficult to open the bottom one ...).
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D.J.
n...@horus.co.jyu.fi (Niilo Paasivirta) wrote:
] Yeah, one group played the module. When they found the demon mouth on
] the wall at the very beginning of the adventure, they formed a line,
] and jumped through the mouth. Game over.
My players went through part of Tomb of Horrors with the characters
that came with the module. They didn't jump in because they had run
into plenty of non-obvious traps in dungeons I ran before that one.
JimP.
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I think you mean the silly teleporters that teleport you, and your
possessions (including clothing), to separate locations.
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Overdose Underpants
> imagine a corridor (10' wide, and 30'+ long)
> in the middle of the dust covered floor is a very obvious pit (with a
> rope allowing characters to swing across)
Out of curiosity:
If your character came upon something that obvious, how many of you *would*
use the rope to swing across?
Or am I just too paranoid?
Anivair
>
>If your character came upon something that obvious, how many of you *would*
>use the rope to swing across?
>
>Or am I just too paranoid?
I would if the kobald I was chasing did. You're running downa hall after a
kobald. he leaps onto a rope and swings across a pit and then ducks around a
corner. Wouldn't you use the rope to follow? No reason not to.
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Tim Fitzmaurice
In the appropriate setup then it should appear to be a used method by the
normal inhabitants....part of the problem with these things and the
metagaming that players put on top of it is that dungeon adventures
were all to often written as static box by box traesure sites and trap
hordes...so any pit was a trap...not part of a real ecology...
As such a 'pit trap' is spotted and treated as such...also the non trap
ones were few and far between so you wouldnt waste time.....
This promotes the idea that if you see something out of place...unusual in
the real world you assume its targetted at you....placement becomes an
issue.
Willie
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quality
setting on a raised platform that requires a bit of a climb to get on. As
the
character(s) step up to get the item(s) a pressure plate opens secret doors
with rust monsters. The characters will have to get thru the rust monsters
to escape the room (only way in is the way they came). Very seldom do
characters prepare for rust monsters. Nothing makes a fighter cringe like
having to take a swing at a rust monster with his new, shiny, obviously
magic
sword and hope it doesn't connect! And just for giggles, add some
skunks into the mix. Maybe make them drop onto the platform. Lets see
the party sneak up on monsters when they can be smelled from 20' Not
deadly, but evil just the same!
8-)
Kitsune
You're too paranoid.
Then again, it depends on how often your party encounters traps...
I've noted that in the campaigns I've been involved with, traps are used
primarily to guard something valuable.
The trap I described above, was used in a corridor leading to an empty
room (probably an old vault that was cleared ages ago "campaign time")
but not something we'd expected
As an aside, the first one over the rope was our halfling rogue and due
to the halfling's weight - not much more/less than a kobold - the trap
wasn't set off.
It wasn't until the party cleric (played by me) swung across. (followed
by our impatient fighter who jumped across) that we noticed the trap...
So with our halfling rogue on one end, and our mage & druid on the
other, we had the heavyest characters stuck in a 20' deep hole. (with
kobolds then charging the rogue, and throwing burning torches into the hole)
Suffice to say, we found the trap infuriating, and ended up checking
every bit of floor for the next four game sessions (which didn't help in
the next adventure - as we had a deadline)
Kits, I say good trap placement counts for higher ELs
Rob Bruce
"Clangador" <clan...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
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>
> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
Corridor about 1' deep with water.
Actually, make that 6" deep with green slime and 6" of water in top of
that.........
R
Rob Bruce
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>
> In the introduction to Return to the Tomb of Horrors, Gary Gygax wrote:
>
> Why then the scenario in the first place? ... I developed the
> material that was to become the /Tomb of Horrors/, and I admit to
> chuckling evilly as I did so. There were several very expert players
> in my campaign, and this was meant as yet another challenge to their
> skill -- and the persistence of their theretofore-invincible
> characters. Specifically I had in mind foiling Rob Kuntz's PC,
> Robilar, and Ernie Gygax's PC, Tenser. [Robilar], by expending a lot
> of orc servants, managed to get through to the final encounter ....
> [He and Tenser] managed to attain the ultimate, destroyed Acererak,
> and ... left laden with loot ....
>
> Although most who dared the hazard failed, at least on the first
> go-round, there were those exceptional few who managed to play
> through and succeed to some degree.
>
> So there you have it: He originally conceived it as a "killer dungeon"
> to finally kill off Robilar and Tenser, but they managed to win against
> the incredible odds.
Well, personally I'd phrase that as "Gary Gygax says Tenser and Robilar made
it through...."
But that may just be me being paranoid AND cynical!
R
Grant Gainey
"White Plume Mountain", anyone?
(Ow - I think I just dated myself...)
Grant
Paul Millington
only it's not a pit, its an open Portable hole and the party has a bag
of holding ...
or
another group favourite is a potion vial of white liquid ....milk
maybe or a potion of healing ?
Pressurized white pudding.
Jasin Zujovic
> > > What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
> >
> > Corridor about 1' deep with water.
> >
> > Actually, make that 6" deep with green slime and 6" of water in top of
> > that.........
>
> "White Plume Mountain", anyone?
>
> (Ow - I think I just dated myself...)
I'm DATING MYSELF rite now IYKWIM AITYD!
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Willie
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>
/Flame ON
Actually, IMHO the most insidiously evil trap in D&D is ........E-TOOLS!
hehehe
/Flame OFF
Katherine F.
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Ahem. I quote John Rowat, posting to
rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan:
"That's okay, I think that's still legal in your state. It's
your COUSINS that you have to watch out for."
Thankyouverymuch.
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Jackhammer John
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"Sometimes the question is more important than the answer."
Jasin Zujovic
> another group favourite is a potion vial of white liquid ....milk
> maybe or a potion of healing ?
> Pressurized white pudding.
"Gee, here's a strange vial we found in the dungeon. Maybe it's milk or a
healing potion!" Well, if the players think that... they have it coming.
--
Jasin Zujovic
jzuj...@inet.hr
Jason Tamez
wrote:
>> another group favourite is a potion vial of white liquid ....milk
>> maybe or a potion of healing ?
>> Pressurized white pudding.
>
>"Gee, here's a strange vial we found in the dungeon. Maybe it's milk or a
>healing potion!" Well, if the players think that... they have it coming.
You usually have to unstopper the bottle to even test it....
-- Jason
(replace the nonsense with druid816 to email me)
Certic
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I think I've posted these before, but...
1. a straight pit trap, except that halfway down the pit is a Prismatic
Sphere: make all the saves, take all the damage, reach the centre, then on
the way out repeat the procedure. At the bottom of the pit, there is a
trampoline...
2. a great big boulder rolls down the corridor towards you. At the end of
the corridor is a wall covered in spikes. A bit before that, there is an
alcove. If you dive inside, you got it wrong. The corridor narrows slightly
at this point, wedging the boulder in front of the alcove - which is covered
in brown mold.
--
You are Not entering Chapeltown.
We walk on two legs, the one abstract
the other surreal.
"No-one ever suddenly became depraved"
- Juvenal, Satires
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-Tempest-
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> I think I've posted these before, but...
> 1. a straight pit trap, except that halfway down the pit is a Prismatic
> Sphere: make all the saves, take all the damage, reach the centre, then on
> the way out repeat the procedure. At the bottom of the pit, there is a
> trampoline...
This reminds me of a spell combo our party mage came up with (which was very
effective with him in planetar form).
Time Stop
Reverse Gravity centered near your opponent
Prismatic Sphere centered 10' above your opponent
Grapple the opponent
Wait for the fun to begin
-Tempest-
Rob Bruce
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That's the one baby. An oldie and a damn fine goodie. Nothing beats it for
simplicity, undetectability and with a few mods sheer bastardry. eg The
party finally get the upper hand on the Drow archvillain they have been
hunting for several modules. Villain turns and runs disappearing around a
corner. PC's pursue and see he has crossed a bit of water. If you want to
be really nasty have him drop some rocks or caltrops or something to make
ripples so the PC's suspect NOTHING, or have a rope tethered across the far
side of the pit.
Muahahahahahahahahaha!!
R
DataPacRat
> On 20 Aug 2002 00:20:30 GMT, clan...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Clangador)
> wrote:
>> What is the most insidiously Evil Trap in D&D? I'd like to know...
>
> That's EASY: it involves a simple wooden door, a few rabid rats, some
> glue and a one-legged Dwarf. It allegedly resulted in four PC deaths,
> two failed attempts at resurrection, and a decapitation!!!
>
> </obscure reference>
Welp, I know about the gazebo, and Tucker's Kobolds, and a few others -
but where's this one from?
Thank you for your time,
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DataPacRat: amateur alchemist, agnostic Gnostic, and memetic engineer.
The Rrangoon species is at http://home.earthlink.net/~ryan_wynne/
Clangador
>> glue and a one-legged Dwarf. It allegedly resulted in four PC deaths,
>> two failed attempts at resurrection, and a decapitation!!!
KoDT?
~Clangador
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