Drizzt vs. Arilyn : Who'd win?
Victor Leung
Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
Victor Leung
(aka Callirrus "Tattercloak" Eldorynn, high elven ranger)
The Amorphous Mass
vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering.
Da Bears.
> Oh, and I'm
>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
Which makes it that much easier to whip out a calculator and figure
it out yourself, assuming that the two are just going to try to hack
each other into the ground. If you don't use critical hits, then it's
even easier. :-)
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james-r...@uiowa.edu in your promised land." -- L. Cohen
Melf
vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
>
>(aka Callirrus "Tattercloak" Eldorynn, high elven ranger)
Ye gods, I was hoping all the xyz vs. zyx threads died a _long_ time ago!
But to answer your question, I think that Drizzt would win. I think that
in one of the FR accessories (Hall of Heroes, I think), TSR published
Drizzt's stats, and he has a special ability (percentage chance) that
allows him to automatically kill any opponent. So it would only take him a
few hits --- and considering his THAC0 of 6, +4 and +3 scimitars,
two-weapon fighting style at no penalty, etc., it shouldn't take long.
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Phase
vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) writes:
> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
once. ;)
If you're curious about Drizzt and Entreri, read the books.
They've fought against each other, and together, numerous times.
And forget about fights determined by swordcraft, or by stats.
Strategy, luck, and the use of _all_ skills would tell who won,
and since we're not the authors of those characters, we could
only speculate.
Phase FX
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Robert McEwen
Somebody wrote:
>> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering.
Whoever the DM wants to win. Unless they're being played as PCs, in
which case my answer becomes: "Whoever's player is smartest."
Rob
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
Robert McEwen
rob...@idirect.com
Victor Leung
In <177F289C2S...@VM.SC.EDU> I170...@VM.SC.EDU (Phase) writes:
>
>vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) writes:
>
>> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
>>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
>
>Oh come on usenet gods of r.g.f.d, let's ignore the FAQ just this
>once. ;)
>
>If you're curious about Drizzt and Entreri, read the books.
>They've fought against each other, and together, numerous times.
>
>And forget about fights determined by swordcraft, or by stats.
>Strategy, luck, and the use of _all_ skills would tell who won,
>and since we're not the authors of those characters, we could
>only speculate.
>
>Phase FX
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>Phase's Pages have moved to http://www.cs.sc.edu/~jason-e
>
> "Be careful with me... I'm sensitive,
> and I'd like to stay that way." - Jewel Kilcher
>-
First of all, thanks to everybody who even glanced at the original
post.
*GETTING DOWN TO BUSINESS...*
I would just like to take this opportunity to say that I had no
idea that the vs. questions were _that_ annoying or frequently asked
enough to be included in a FAQ file. In fact, I had no idea that there
_was_ a FAQ file (perhaps gut feeling but no proof). From now on,
nobody will have to worry about me posting vs. questions ever again as
after my first week or so, I've gained a bit more knowledge and
experience when it comes to newsgroups (ok very little compared to the
vast amount of knowledge there is). I'll just stick to questions like:
*QUESTION* If a Vocalize spell (see Complete Wizard's Handbook or Pages
from the Mages - it basically removes the need for a verbal component
for any spells cast after it) is cast before a Power Word spell (or
heck, any spell with a verbal-only component), are there any signs of
spellcasting (PO: Spells & Magic talks about subtlety but I want to
keep things from getting _too_ carried away)?
*YET ANOTHER QUESTION* In spells with no somatic component but _with_ a
material one, what does one do to the material? Nothing? Leave it in
the component pouch where it may be and it mystically vanishes?
Feel free to comment on, I guess, anything.
*BEFORE I FORGET...* Would someone kindly tell me where I may be able
to d/l a copy of the FAQ for this newsgroup (I don't want to make
anymore errors like the versus question)? Thanks in advance,
Terry Austin
vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
>who'd win in such a fight
Does *anyone* really care?
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Matthew R Blackwell
In <Edina1996Aug3...@news3.idirect.com.compulink.com>
rob...@idirect.com (Robert McEwen) writes:
>Somebody wrote:
>>> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>>>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>>>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>>>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering.
>
Ting-Ting. Definitely Ting-Ting.
Evil Cat
Melf <Sergey...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
>> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
>>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
>>
>>Victor Leung
>>(aka Callirrus "Tattercloak" Eldorynn, high elven ranger)
Actually if you really want know all of Drizzt's stat's and abilities
were published in the Menzo... boxed set. This is an updated version
of the " Hall of Heros " publication. Including new equipment that he
aquired in subsequent books. If you really want it e-mail me.
Evil Cat
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" He said he would eat my soul, but all he ate was his words"
Geoff Beaston
vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
>Victor Leung
>(aka Callirrus "Tattercloak" Eldorynn, high elven ranger)
The Answer is Drizzt. This is because Arilyns speed is completely
derived from the moonblade. She is not nearly as fast without it, as
shown in Silver Shadows. Drizzt however depends more on his inate
speed. against Wulfgar the answer is again Drizzt. this was shown many
times in all the books. But Drizzt would not fight either one of them
nor would they fight Drizzt.
Joshua Jasper
In article <505v8o$3...@news1.ni.net>,
Terry Austin <tau...@hyperbooks.com> wrote:
>
>---------------------------------
>Terry Austin
>Hyperbooks Online Bookstore
>
>New at Hyperbooks:
>Character Constructor for CORPS, by Bruce Kvam
>
>http://www.well.com/user/taustin
>---------------------------------
>
Naw, what we're _realy_ interested in is, who'd win in a fight,
Hulk or Superman?
Sinboy
Bertil Jonell
In article <177F289C2S...@VM.SC.EDU>, Phase <I170...@VM.SC.EDU> wrote:
>vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) writes:
>>Subject: Re: Drizzt vs. Arilyn : Who'd win?
Why should they *fight*? I mean, the idea of a half-drow moon blade
wielder is bizarre enough to make me like it:)
"That rapid popping sound is the Evermeet nobility dying from acute
high blood pressure."
-bertil-
--
"It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or
strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
exercise for your kill-file."
Phase
buf...@cpcnet.com (Geoff Beaston) writes:
>The Answer is Drizzt. This is because Arilyns speed is completely
>derived from the moonblade. She is not nearly as fast without it, as
>shown in Silver Shadows. Drizzt however depends more on his inate
>speed. against Wulfgar the answer is again Drizzt. this was shown many
>times in all the books. But Drizzt would not fight either one of them
>nor would they fight Drizzt.
In any case, that moonblade would not harm an innocent.
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Matthew R Blackwell
In <sinboyDx...@netcom.com> sin...@netcom.com (Joshua Jasper)
writes:
That's old news. Superman won that one. How about Crow vs Twiggy in the
battle of robot sidekicks?
Heath Saunders
Victor Leung wrote:>
> *QUESTION* If a Vocalize spell (see Complete Wizard's Handbook or Pages
> from the Mages - it basically removes the need for a verbal component
> for any spells cast after it) is cast before a Power Word spell (or
> heck, any spell with a verbal-only component), are there any signs of
> spellcasting (PO: Spells & Magic talks about subtlety but I want to
> keep things from getting _too_ carried away)?
>
> *YET ANOTHER QUESTION* In spells with no somatic component but _with_ a
> material one, what does one do to the material? Nothing? Leave it in
> the component pouch where it may be and it mystically vanishes?
>
depends upon whether you are the DM or not
if you look at Dragon Kings (from Dark Sun) there is a nice set of
optional rules that basically say that for every spell no matter how
subtle there is some visual, aural, tactile and/or olfactory side effect
this is nice if you are the DM otherwise dont let the bugger hear about
it and argue your point ruthlessly
Q2
again up to the DM but usally I would say that at the very least you
would need to be touching the component and be aware of if not holding it
in your hands.
RaynMan
From what I've read and seen in of the character's stats, I would say that the
rankings in an all out tournament would be:
1: Drizzt
2: Entreri/Jarlaxle (either one)
3: Arilyn/Cattibrie (either one)
It is realy a toss-up in the case of the above four.
4: Elaith/Wulfgar/Bruenor (Any)
5: Thibbledorf(?) Pwent (amusing little character)
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The Falcon's Claw
Melf <Sergey...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>vle...@netcom.ca(Victor Leung) wrote:
>> Just out of curiousity, as I've never seen their stats (I just
>>know that Drizzt is a 15th level ranger and Wulfgar is a 9th level
>>fighter), who'd win in such a fight (or Drizzt vs. Elaith OR Entreri
>>vs. Elaith OR Entreri vs. Arilyn)? Just wondering. Oh, and I'm
>>talking about a fight determined by swordcraft, not the use of any of
>>Drizzt's innate spell abilities or Guenhwyvar nor the use of the
>>special abilities of the moonblade. Just one-on-one fighting.
>>
>>Victor Leung
>>(aka Callirrus "Tattercloak" Eldorynn, high elven ranger)
>Ye gods, I was hoping all the xyz vs. zyx threads died a _long_ time ago!
>But to answer your question, I think that Drizzt would win. I think that
>in one of the FR accessories (Hall of Heroes, I think), TSR published
>Drizzt's stats, and he has a special ability (percentage chance) that
>allows him to automatically kill any opponent. So it would only take him a
>few hits --- and considering his THAC0 of 6, +4 and +3 scimitars,
>two-weapon fighting style at no penalty, etc., it shouldn't take long.
Now you take a fighter that uses 1 longsword,give him weapon
specialization, At 3rd level he has 1attack-then 2 attacks.At 7th
level he has 2 attacks per Round.
Now you take a fighter that with his right hand he gets 2 attacks and
with his left he gets 2 attacks but with - to hit because he is not
ambidextrous.
Now you take Drizzt, a DARK ELF ranger,rangers being natually
ambidextrous,has 2 attacks with a +4 Defender in one hand and 3
attacks with + 3 Frostbrand at his 15th leve. Drow Elves in the
Forgotten Realms are the BEST fighters.They get special abilities at
High levels.Drizzt can Decapitate on a To Hit Roll of 16 or Better,or
Fataly wound him with only 3 Points of Damage on a 16 or better. Im
not sure the Percentage Chance though.
I hope this helps.
Scott.
Joe Feyas
RaynMan wrote:
>
> From what I've read and seen in of the character's stats, I would say that the
> rankings in an all out tournament would be:
>
> 1: Drizzt
> 2: Entreri/Jarlaxle (either one)
> 3: Arilyn/Cattibrie (either one)
>
> It is realy a toss-up in the case of the above four.
>
> 4: Elaith/Wulfgar/Bruenor (Any)
> 5: Thibbledorf(?) Pwent (amusing little character)
>
Who cares they are all munchkins anyway...:)
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"I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all
likewise perish." Luke 13:3
Cyber Denizen
RaynMan wrote:
>
> From what I've read and seen in of the character's stats, I would say that the
> rankings in an all out tournament would be:
>
> 1: Drizzt
> 2: Entreri/Jarlaxle (either one)
> 3: Arilyn/Cattibrie (either one)
>
> It is realy a toss-up in the case of the above four.
>
> 4: Elaith/Wulfgar/Bruenor (Any)
> 5: Thibbledorf(?) Pwent (amusing little character)
>
> "Man should live forever or die trying" - Spider Robinson
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From what I have read it would "definitley"? go as following:
1. Drizzt Do'Urden
2.Zanknafein Do'Urden (Drizzt's Father & teacher, responsible for the
good in Drizzt)
3.Artemis Entreri
4.Arilyn
5.Jarl Axle
6.Bruenor Battlehammer
7.Wulfgar
8.Thibbledorf Pwent
9.Catti-brie
10.Elaith
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Bertil Jonell
In article <322E05...@ix.netcom.com>,
An NPC can, by definition, never be a munchkin:)
They are 'special cases' for plot reasons, and who knows
how many wishes they've had to spend to get their powers anyway? :)
Simon Jones
Which orifice you pull that information out of.
1. Dark elves are not the best fighters in FR ; they average about 5th
level and are physically weaker than humans, other elves etc. They make
better clerics. As fighters they only end up with a few minor mgical
abilities. However all dark elves are natrually ambidextrous (though I
got that last piece of info out of unearthed arcanna rather than a second
edition product.
2. Here are Drizzt's abilities from the latest source which also matches
his Menzoberranzan entry
Double damage if he scores 3 higher than what he needs to hit, backstab
ability x5 damage, base 10% plus or minus 3% chance per lvl difference
Archbishop Munchkin
1) Elminster. Definitely Elminster!
"Oh! Ye don't like my sword-slinging eh?"
<VRRRRRRRRAAP>
Offending person is blasted to ash, turned to stone,
mangled beyond description, or deported to the nastiest
hole in the lower planes.
2) Drizzt Do'Urden (Daermon-Nashezzbaernon)
"Allow me to teach you the finer points of swordsmanship!"
<VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR>
"Did I mention that my nickname is Cuisinart?
Now leave me alone so I can brood on how alone I am!"
3) Artemis Entreri
"I'm gonna fight you, just cause you might be better than I am!"
4) Arilyn of the Moonblade
"I HATE MAGIC! Sic 'em moonshadow!"
5) Bruenor Battlehammer
"Ah stonebubbles! Swordplay is for childer!"
<BONK!>
"Never let a dwarf get his skull near ye!"
JHoltDMex
Drizzt is one of the most powerful characters in the Forgotten Realms.
With his intelligence application of magical items (placing bracers of
speed around his ankles so that his feet can keep up with his hands),
powerful allies (mainly Bruenor and Wulfgar...read the new novel for that
scoop), and just plain experience. All one needs to see is that with all
of Drizzt's resources, the only person I can see of beating him would be
Elminster or one of the Seven Sisters.
Robert McEwen
In article <50u973$g...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jhol...@aol.com? says...
Thanks for adding a spoiler to an already pointless thread...
Brett D Altschul
In article <50ov7n$h...@nyheter.chalmers.se>,
Bertil Jonell <d9be...@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:
> An NPC can, by definition, never be a munchkin:)
> They are 'special cases' for plot reasons, and who knows
>how many wishes they've had to spend to get their powers anyway? :)
I don't think that all of those FR characters really are NPCs, exactly. Whe-
ther they're actually played in campaigns or not, they are effectively char-
acters belonging to the novelist or designer who dreamed them up.
Demon Sultan of Khaipur
Brett Altschul
Laury or Marcel Parent
What do you mean spoiler? The book that he's referring to is 3 years old
or so.
Marcel
Dave Brohman
Laury or Marcel Parent (lpa...@softnc.com) wrote:
> > Thanks for adding a spoiler to an already pointless thread...
> What do you mean spoiler? The book that he's referring to is 3 years old
> or so.
Unless you get your books from Timewarp Press, Salvatore's new Drizzt
novel was just released in late August.
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Archbishop Munchkin
As Chas pulled his TCE on The Falcon's Claw he wrote:
>BUT what about Regis,Wulgar,and that Battlerager dude we love so much?
>You can't leave them out! By the way I thought this was very funny! Thanx!
>Scott Tack
>Sco...@intergate.bc.ca
>Only sometimes The falcon's Claw !!!!
Okay! Okay!
You asked for it! (And don't say I didn't warn you!
Regis
"Sure! I'll fight you! But first....Let me show you something"
<You wake up two days later in Calimport, possessionless and naked.> =)
Wulgar
<After uprooting a sapling to florentine Aegis-Fang with.>
"Take THAT!"
<You've always wondered what having your skull caved in was like!>
"Now before Cattie Brie notices I'm gone"
<Throws hammer into the nearest, unoffending ceiling. Squashes self.>
Battlerager (I kenna recall the lad's name at this juncture)
"BLEARGH!"
<Snippage of bad dwarvish singing>
SKRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE<The armor
dummy!>
Suddenly a large lump of very sharp metal is trying to burrow it's way
through
your chest.
Liriel Baenrae
"I'm an evil DROW! Leave me and my human lover alone!"
Goes and saves a town in retalliation for her fellow drow's coitus
interruptus.
"I'm a good Drow. NO! IAMEVIL! GOOD! EVIL!
GOODEVILGOODEVILGOODEVILGOOD!"
The Simbul
"Oh El-minster! Whaddya say we go kick some Red Wizard ass, then I'll rock
YOUR world!" =o
Storm Silverhand
"Awww. That's nothing! I've got TWO of them panting after ME!"
Male Harpers-"Hubba hubba! SCHWING!"
Shandril Shessair
"Magic? I don't need no STEEN-KING MAGIC!"
<Levels the surrounding countryside with spellfire.>
Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun
"LAERAL! I told you never to touch me there in PUBLIC!"
Danilo Thann
"Let me sing you the tale of "The Drunken Elf Lass."
"Oh. Hello Arilyn! Care to dance?"
Struts up with his "head" leading the way.
The Harpell Clan (The BIG family of mages?)
BAAAAAAA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
<Harpell Hall is reduced to ashes>
Cyric
"Do you want to read my book? It's really very good! I mean evil!"
Llira
"Hi! I'm BA-ACK! I was spent a few years on an alternate plane as
Billary Clinton!"
Manshoon
<Blasts your foolish ass to powder without batting an eyelash>
Worshippers of Bane, Myrkul, and Bhaal
"Our god's ain't dead! Oh! Sure! We'd like to hear about this Cyric
guy!"
<OOOOPS!>
The worshippers of Bhaal
" " They're all DEAD! (Assassins?)
Post on a pole:
Looking for dragon skeletons. $$$$$
Please contact the Cult of the Dragon
Worshippers of Moander
<Too busy cuddling slime to give a statement>
Alias
"I remember...... Oh yeah! That's right! I can't really remember that!
Finder Wyvernspur programmed that!"
Dragonbait
<You smell freshly baked bread>
Dr.Who (Hey! His TARDIS showed up in a Dragonlance painting!)
"Mr. Troll. Care for a jellybaby?"
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