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southpaw

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Aug 13, 2004, 1:48:03 PM8/13/04
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Hey all, I just have a few questions regarding artificers. I am just
starting to play one and am enjoying it so far but there are still a few
odd points that I haven't quite figured out:

When an artificer makes a scroll of a spell that is not normally on his
spell list, he needs to make a UMD roll. When he then proceeds to
actually cast that spell from the scroll, does he need to make a second
UMD roll?

When the same artificer makes a scroll of a wizard spell, can his wizard
friend use it? Can his wizard friend copy it into his spell book?

Thanks in advance!

Mark Blunden

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Aug 13, 2004, 2:10:45 PM8/13/04
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southpaw wrote:
> Hey all, I just have a few questions regarding artificers. I am just
> starting to play one and am enjoying it so far but there are still a
> few odd points that I haven't quite figured out:
>
> When an artificer makes a scroll of a spell that is not normally on
> his spell list, he needs to make a UMD roll. When he then proceeds to
> actually cast that spell from the scroll, does he need to make a
> second UMD roll?

Yes.

> When the same artificer makes a scroll of a wizard spell, can his
> wizard friend use it? Can his wizard friend copy it into his spell
> book?

From the Ask Keith Baker FAQ in the WotC Eberron forums:

Having had more discussions with the development team, here are a few
answers to a few common artificer questions:

1. When an artificer makes a magic item such as a scroll, it is considered
to be arcane or divine based on the spells involved; if it could go either
way, the artificer decides. It is up to the DM to decide if an arcane scroll
created in this way can be copied by a wizard; if a DM wants to deny this to
restrict access to spells, that's his privilege.

2. "Infusions never allow saving throws" is in error. Infusion saving throw
DCs should be based on Intelligence.

3. Item creation feats cannot be applied to infusions, so no wand of weapon
augmentation for you.

4. The craft reserve cannot be used to pay the cost of spell storing item.

5. Craft Homunculus will allow you to create any type of homunculus,
including those in the Eberron book.

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Mark.


southpaw

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Aug 13, 2004, 4:53:08 PM8/13/04
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Mark Blunden wrote:

> southpaw wrote:
>
>>When an artificer makes a scroll of a spell that is not normally on
>>his spell list, he needs to make a UMD roll. When he then proceeds to
>>actually cast that spell from the scroll, does he need to make a
>>second UMD roll?
>
>
> Yes.

That clears things up quite a bit, thanks. I think I'll mosey off in
search of that FAQ you mentioned...

Mark Blunden

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Aug 13, 2004, 6:52:14 PM8/13/04
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http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=503

That's Eberron General. The Ask Keith Baker FAQ is a summary of the answers
from the Ask Keith Baker thread, and they're both stickied at the top of the
page.

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Mark.


Dirk Collins

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Aug 14, 2004, 3:06:45 PM8/14/04
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southpaw wrote:
> Hey all, I just have a few questions regarding artificers. I am just
> starting to play one and am enjoying it so far but there are still a few
> odd points that I haven't quite figured out:
>
> When an artificer makes a scroll of a spell that is not normally on his
> spell list, he needs to make a UMD roll. When he then proceeds to
> actually cast that spell from the scroll, does he need to make a second
> UMD roll?

Yes...

> When the same artificer makes a scroll of a wizard spell, can his wizard
> friend use it? Can his wizard friend copy it into his spell book?

No... The Wizards spells are quite different from infusions.
Infusions are not spells, but they function like spells and follow
all the rules for spells.

Infusions can't be used on living creatures either, only on
inanimate objects or constructs.

Re,
Dirk

Mark Blunden

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Aug 15, 2004, 4:59:40 AM8/15/04
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Dirk Collins wrote:
> southpaw wrote:

>> When the same artificer makes a scroll of a wizard spell, can his
>> wizard friend use it? Can his wizard friend copy it into his spell
>> book?
>
> No... The Wizards spells are quite different from infusions.
> Infusions are not spells, but they function like spells and follow
> all the rules for spells.
>
> Infusions can't be used on living creatures either, only on
> inanimate objects or constructs.

True, but not what he was asking about - an artificer can scribe scrolls of
any spell using a UMD check to simulate the spell, and using his XP or Craft
Points to cover the experience cost. This is separate from his infusions.

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Mark.


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