Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk Merge?
Jackhammer John
coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I make the continent the
size of Asia or even North America where travel is difficult could the two
exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I am thinking in another year
introducing my players to the Forgotten Realms lands.
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Jackhammer John
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"Jackhammer John" <johnw...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR
shows a west
> coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I make the
continent the
> size of Asia or even North America where travel is difficult could
the two
> exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I am thinking in another
year
> introducing my players to the Forgotten Realms lands.
Sure. The cosmology is different, but that's not a huge factor in most
games. The Gods are also different, but again, it you go by what they
represent, not name, it's not that huge.
In fact, TSR did that, sort of. Kara-Tur was originally set in
Greyhawk, but was later set into the FR.
Also, Blackmoor, by Arneson, was originally on it's one planet, but
got shoved into the Known World/Mystara. The works of Clark Ashton
Smith got shoved into Mystara as well. As did at least two clones of
Michael Moorcock's Melnibone...
Jackhammer John
Thanks for the reply. The different gods don't bother me as I can approach
them as the same gods going by different names or just different gods that are
known by different people. My main concern was if the characters would have
problems with their stats and such. I don't have the FR book yet. I figure it
wouldn't be like trying to stick a Jedi Knight in Greyhawk.
Different calendars don't bother either since in my verison of GH, there can
more than one race or region that can follow a different calendar though there
is a main one that we use (I kept strict logs on dates and such).
Varl
> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR shows a west
> coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I make the continent the
> size of Asia or even North America where travel is difficult could the two
> exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I am thinking in another year
> introducing my players to the Forgotten Realms lands.
An interesting idea. I have also considered doing something similar. How far would
you have the two continents from one another? If you use Kara-Tur, how far off its
eastern shore would you place Greyhawk? Should it be close or halfway around the
world?
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> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR shows a west
> coast configuration and GH shows an east coast.
FR has an estabilished east coast. It's called Kara-Tur, which was,
ironically enough, originally intended to be in Greyhawk.
Of course, you can always just overwrite Kara-Tur with Greyhawk. Or
keep Kara-Tur and just put Greyhawk on another continent on the
planet. The FRCS gives a nice map of the (more or less) entire planet
including heretofore completely undetailed continents.
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game, you can go from one to the other if you know how though.
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Bryan Maloney
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> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR
> shows a west coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I
> make the continent the size of Asia or even North America where travel
> is difficult could the two exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I
> am thinking in another year introducing my players to the Forgotten
> Realms lands.
If you're the DM, yes they can. How to explain the different cosmologies
and deities? No problem--who's to say that anybody living in either half
actually have a *real* handle on "the Truth". It'll be amusing for the
Cuthbertians and the Tyrians to have a go at each other over which one is
the "real" God of Justice.
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Bryan Maloney
> Jackhammer John <johnw...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR
>> shows a west coast configuration and GH shows an east coast.
>
> FR has an estabilished east coast. It's called Kara-Tur, which was,
> ironically enough, originally intended to be in Greyhawk.
Indeed, making it a "Far West" was less hackneyed than what TSR actually
ended up doing.
Of course, I doubt that "Aquaria" was a Mesoamerica ripoff, either...
KingPutz
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This is what I also plan on doing. I am taking Greyhawk (the world we are
currently campaigning in) as it is and adding FR as another continent to the
west. I don't have any maps of what GH looks like on the west side so I am
going to make it up and make it an oriental theme so that if you were in FR
and traveled east towards GH you would reach another oriental area and then
continuing on you would reach GH.
I think that I will have the continents far apart so I can develop some
legends about the "lost tribes" or something like that. Try to make it
mysterious.
KingPutz
Bryan Maloney
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> "Varl" <bsm...@premier1.net> wrote in message
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>> Jackhammer John wrote:
>>
>> > Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR
>> > shows a west coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I
>> > make the continent the size of Asia or even North America where
>> > travel is difficult could the two exist on the same world? I favor
>> > GH, but I am thinking in another year introducing my players to the
>> > Forgotten Realms lands.
>>
>> An interesting idea. I have also considered doing something similar.
>> How far would you have the two continents from one another? If you use
>> Kara-Tur, how far off its eastern shore would you place Greyhawk?
>> Should it be close or halfway around the world?
>
> This is what I also plan on doing. I am taking Greyhawk (the world we
> are currently campaigning in) as it is and adding FR as another
> continent to the west. I don't have any maps of what GH looks like on
> the west side so I am going to make it up and make it an oriental theme
That's easy: Do an east-west flip of Kara Tur. Kara Tur is the "Far West"
of Greyhawk.
Grandmaster E
underdeveloped FR "Maztica". IMC I made a bridge between FR and Kallamar
(kenzerco's world) with a secret portal that my players discovered. There
are a Lot of portals in FR anyways - so what the heck.
It might be simpler than combining - but you can do whatever you want - you
are the head ramrod!
Have fun!
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>
> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR shows a west
> coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I make the continent the
> size of Asia or even North America where travel is difficult could the two
> exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I am thinking in another year
> introducing my players to the Forgotten Realms lands.
One potential problem:
In Greyhawk's solar system the planet is at the center of
the solar system and the sun orbits it. In the Forgotten Realms
the Sun is at the center and the planet orbits it. It seems
improbable that both contradictory cosmologies could be true.
Suggested Fix: One of these two beliefs (probably the Greyhawkers)
is wrong.
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>> we are currently campaigning in) as it is and adding FR as another
>> continent to the west. I don't have any maps of what GH looks like
>> on the west side so I am going to make it up and make it an oriental
>> theme
Bryan Maloney <bj...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>That's easy: Do an east-west flip of Kara Tur. Kara Tur is the "Far
>West" of Greyhawk.
In fact, if you do an east-west flip of Greyhawk itself, it looks
suspiciously like Europe, including major cultural features.
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Jackhammer John
Yes, I was thinking portals too, but if there is one, it will be far away and
hard to get there. I was thinking of a large overland and underground trip.
One thought I was playing with was that FR has a strong magical flavor while
GH is a bit more realistic in its approach. I was considering that the world
has strong mana lines around it (like Earth's magnetic fields) and FR area is
smack dab in the middle of an mana line therefore making magic a tad more
frequent and powerful If so, the portal could only exist on the outskirts of
the mana line..
If the FR magic is actually more powerful statwise, then I may have my
player's spells reflect accordly by having them cast a level or two higher than
normal. I still need to work on that as I become more familiar with FR new
rules.
It would be interesting if a GH character meets his demise in FR and decides to
roll up a character from FR. If magical he or she may lose a level of magic if
they decide to travel back to GH. Or they could leave that character there and
created a new one back in GH. Hmmm, if they choose to leave thier characters
in FR, I would have two campaigns running at the same time? Hmmm. No, but it
is a thought. hehehehe.
Jackhammer John
>>
>> Can FR and GH merge into one world? The maps are perfect since FR shows a
>west
>> coast configuration and GH shows an east coast. If I make the continent
>the
>> size of Asia or even North America where travel is difficult could the two
>> exist on the same world? I favor GH, but I am thinking in another year
>> introducing my players to the Forgotten Realms lands.
>
>One potential problem:
>
>In Greyhawk's solar system the planet is at the center of
>the solar system and the sun orbits it. In the Forgotten Realms
>the Sun is at the center and the planet orbits it. It seems
>improbable that both contradictory cosmologies could be true.
>
>Suggested Fix: One of these two beliefs (probably the Greyhawkers)
>is wrong.
>
The two cosmologies don't bother me. How many different beliefs did we have on
Earh about the way the solar system worked? Some believed that stars was
heaven showing through holes in the sky. I believe that the Flat Earth society
still exists today.
In fact, I think WotC should make easy for folks who want the various DnD
worlds the same planet (as well as give others the choice to place them in
different alternate planets or dimensions). I see no reason why GH, FR, OA and
even Kalamar couldn't exist on the same planet. I think it would make is a
stronger and more cohesive world like the Marvel or DC universe.
There would more incentives for players to buy books like OA because it is
possible to link the background and character types into their existing world
or leave them alone because they exist so far away.
Jackhammer John
comet that destroys a far off city of Mordheim (yes, I want to use the
GamesWorkshop setting) and as the players get closer to the city they encounter
refugees by the thousands and tales of wrydstone. By using the wrydstone they
could create a portal or perhaps a portal was created under the sewers of the
city and buried beneath the ruins. After some interesting adventures they
encounter the portal gate that leads to FR.
Hehehe, I was thinking that the portal was created by an evil wizard in search
of wrydstone (a source of power that with long term exposure mutates you) and
the portal actually pulls the comet toward the city by accident. Hmmmm.
Excuse me, I must get back to my notes. I must write while this is still fresh
in my mind.
Hong Ooi
>
>That's easy: Do an east-west flip of Kara Tur. Kara Tur is the "Far West"
>of Greyhawk.
A historical question: was Kara-Tur originally intended to be set in
Greyhawk? The impression I got from the 1E OA was that it was meant to be a
completely separate game world, at least at first.
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Mad Hamish
<hong...@maths.anu.edu.au> wrote:
>On 20 Oct 2001 18:04:19 GMT, Bryan Maloney <bj...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>That's easy: Do an east-west flip of Kara Tur. Kara Tur is the "Far West"
>>of Greyhawk.
>
>A historical question: was Kara-Tur originally intended to be set in
>Greyhawk? The impression I got from the 1E OA was that it was meant to be a
>completely separate game world, at least at first.
>
That's my impression too.
It was later pulled into the FR world iirc.
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Ubiquitous
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>Can FR and GH merge into one world?
Hell no! I outga sic the D&D cops on you for even thinking about
sullying Oerth with that idea! :-)
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Ubiquitous
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>Different calendars don't bother either since in my verison of GH, there can
>more than one race or region that can follow a different calendar though there
>is a main one that we use (I kept strict logs on dates and such).
Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
Ubiquitous
hong...@maths.anu.edu.au wrote...
>A historical question: was Kara-Tur originally intended to be set in
>Greyhawk? The impression I got from the 1E OA was that it was meant to be a
>completely separate game world, at least at first.
Kara-Tur was originally planned to be the "Far West" of Oerth.
I think that changed when Lorraine and her campaign to destroy
Greyhawk began.
Jackhammer John
>johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>
>>Can FR and GH merge into one world?
>
>Hell no! I outga sic the D&D cops on you for even thinking about
>sullying Oerth with that idea! :-)
>
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Ubiquitous
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>>Jackhammer John wrote:
>>In Greyhawk's solar system the planet is at the center of
>>the solar system and the sun orbits it. In the Forgotten Realms
>>the Sun is at the center and the planet orbits it. It seems
>>improbable that both contradictory cosmologies could be true.
>>
>>Suggested Fix: One of these two beliefs (probably the Greyhawkers)
>>is wrong.
>
>The two cosmologies don't bother me. How many different beliefs did we have
>on Earh about the way the solar system worked? Some believed that stars was
>heaven showing through holes in the sky. I believe that the Flat Earth
>society still exists today.
But if you remember basic astronomy, you cannot have both be true.
The reason we discarded the geocentric model was that it did not explain
the retrograde motion of the planets (or at least very well). As far as I
know, there is no retrograde motion in the skies of Oerth.
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Jackhammer John
>In article <20011020054248...@mb-md.aol.com>,
>johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>
>>Different calendars don't bother either since in my verison of GH, there can
>>more than one race or region that can follow a different calendar though
>there
>>is a main one that we use (I kept strict logs on dates and such).
>
>Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
>
>Geoff Miller
Hmmm, I don't remembe FR calendar of if has been changed, but GH has a calendar
of 28 days a month. Of course, this earth has had different calendars from
different cultures and even different years depending on which city you lived
in.
Hong Ooi
>In article <20011020170007...@mb-mn.aol.com>,
>johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>>>Jackhammer John wrote:
>
>>>In Greyhawk's solar system the planet is at the center of
>>>the solar system and the sun orbits it. In the Forgotten Realms
>>>the Sun is at the center and the planet orbits it. It seems
>>>improbable that both contradictory cosmologies could be true.
>>>
>>>Suggested Fix: One of these two beliefs (probably the Greyhawkers)
>>>is wrong.
>>
>>The two cosmologies don't bother me. How many different beliefs did we have
>>on Earh about the way the solar system worked? Some believed that stars was
>>heaven showing through holes in the sky. I believe that the Flat Earth
>>society still exists today.
>
>But if you remember basic astronomy, you cannot have both be true.
Of course they can both be true. It just depends on your frame of
reference.
Ubiquitous
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>>Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
>
>Hmmm, I don't remembe FR calendar of if has been changed, but GH has a
>calendar of 28 days a month. Of course, this earth has had different
>calendars from different cultures and even different years depending
>on which city you lived in.
But they were all incorrect, which is why we had day shifting and leap
years.
Ubiquitous
hong...@maths.anu.edu.au wrote...
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:56:17 GMT, web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
>>But if you remember basic astronomy, you cannot have both be true.
>
>Of course they can both be true. It just depends on your frame of
>reference.
No, you cannot. If one world has retrograde motion in the heavens
and another does not, they cannot be the same.
Helpful GM
> In article <20011021195716...@mb-mn.aol.com>,
> johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>
> >>Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
> >
> >Hmmm, I don't remembe FR calendar of if has been changed, but GH has a
> >calendar of 28 days a month. Of course, this earth has had different
> >calendars from different cultures and even different years depending
> >on which city you lived in.
Quick, which calendar is universally used in the "real" world?
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>In article <stlatt4t1tdpae42g...@4ax.com>,
>hong...@maths.anu.edu.au wrote...
>>On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:56:17 GMT, web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
>
>>>But if you remember basic astronomy, you cannot have both be true.
>>
>>Of course they can both be true. It just depends on your frame of
>>reference.
>
>No, you cannot. If one world has retrograde motion in the heavens
>and another does not, they cannot be the same.
Show me where in the published material it says that Greyhawk has
retrograde motion in the heavens, and Toril does not. Or the other way
around.
Ubiquitous
HelpfulGM@*NO-SPAM*PlayNaked.com wrote...
>> >>Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
>> >
>> >Hmmm, I don't remembe FR calendar of if has been changed, but GH has a
>> >calendar of 28 days a month. Of course, this earth has had different
>> >calendars from different cultures and even different years depending
>> >on which city you lived in.
>
>Quick, which calendar is universally used in the "real" world?
Ours is, but that's besides the point. You can't have calendars
with different numbers of days in a year in the same place without
one or another having to be adjusted occassionaly.
Helpful GM
web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
> In article <HelpfulGM-21633...@news.apple.com>,
> HelpfulGM@*NO-SPAM*PlayNaked.com wrote...
> >> In article <20011021195716...@mb-mn.aol.com>,
> >> johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>
> >> >>Do both worlds even have the same number of days in a year?
> >> >
> >> >Hmmm, I don't remembe FR calendar of if has been changed, but GH has a
> >> >calendar of 28 days a month. Of course, this earth has had different
> >> >calendars from different cultures and even different years depending
> >> >on which city you lived in.
> >
> >Quick, which calendar is universally used in the "real" world?
> Ours is, but that's besides the point. You can't have calendars
> with different numbers of days in a year in the same place without
> one or another having to be adjusted occassionaly.
Who's "us"? I'm gonna suggest that you & I use different calendars.
...And that one of us has a calendar that's more-accurate than the other
(probably you -- but that's ok.)
I see what you're saying -- but my point was that it's ok if FR and GH
don't use the same calendars. It's ok if one of them drifts. In fact,
in my current campaign (which takes place in FR), the kingdom that the
group is currently in uses a rather inaccurate calendar, with royal
"holidays" before the start of each year to sort-of even things out.
The further you get from Empire City, the more people use the "regular"
calendar -- but near the seat of the kingdom, they've got tradition,
dammit!
Peter Mork
Grayspace the heavens circle Oerth. In Realmspace (as in most crystal
spheres), Toril (or planets in general) circles its sun.
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Jackhammer John
>with different numbers of days in a year in the same place without
>one or another having to be adjusted occassionaly.
>
Yes, you can. My thinking was that on my world the two places are so far apart
the neither have heard of the other or just in rumors. So two calendars could
be in place with different years and months and such.
Justin Bacon
>Ours is, but that's besides the point. You can't have calendars
>with different numbers of days in a year in the same place without
>one or another having to be adjusted occassionaly.
This is an overly broad statements. The Mayans, for example, had something like
a half dozen different calendars -- all of them with a different number of
days. Many of these calendars were *extremely* accurate. They just happened to
be calibrated to completely different things. (And I believe at least one of
their calendars was simply not calibrated to anything in particular. It just
meandered along for the sake of meandering along.)
This lack of convergence was, in fact, a feature. The Mayans were very
conscious of cycles, and very afraid of cycles coming to an end (moments at
which they believed that the world could potentially come to an end). By
monitoring a large number of different cyclical events in nature, they believed
they were minimizing the chances of the world coming to an end (because all of
the cycles would only synch up once in a very great while -- and only at that
point would the overall cycle come to an end, and risk ending the world).
(This summary is a vastly simplified version of my own, shallow knowledge of
the subject.)
JB
Justin Bacon
>Show me where in the published material it says that Greyhawk has
>retrograde motion in the heavens, and Toril does not. Or the other way
>around.
It doesn't, to my knowledge. However, we *do* know that the constellations
above the world of Greyhawk and Toril are different. This is highly suggestive.
(Although not conclusive -- any situation where you've got gods involved means
that any proof you'd like to proffer is ultimately dependent upon the clause
"presuming the gods didn't mess things up".)
Note, also, that in the new edition the multiverse Greyhawk inhabits is
different from the one which the Forgotten Realms inhabits.
JB
Hong Ooi
wrote:
>This was addressed in Spelljammer. It quite clearly indicates that in
>Grayspace the heavens circle Oerth. In Realmspace (as in most crystal
>spheres), Toril (or planets in general) circles its sun.
Spelljammer doesn't exist in 3E. ;)
Anyway, to recap, this issue merely restates the old Copernican vs
Ptolemaic controversy of which body is at the centre of the universe. As
far as I know, there is no reason why both theories can't be "correct", in
the sense that they give predictions that are consistent with physical
observations. The problem historically was that the Ptolemaic model, where
everything orbits the earth, needed lots of tinkering and fiddling to
explain the curious phenomenon of retrograde motion, which is where
individual planets would sometimes reverse direction in their orbits. The
Copernican model explained that much more elegantly by saying that the
planets orbited the sun, which is why most people prefer it today.
But that doesn't mean the Ptolemaic model is "wrong" in any real sense of
the word, any more than any scientific theory can be "wrong" (only
disproven). In fact, from a common-sense point of view, it's obviously much
better than the Copernican one. We perceive the earth as being solid and
immovable; we don't feel ourselves being flung off our feet as our planet
whizzes around in its orbit. (Yes, I'm aware that the reason for this is
because of the low rates of acceleration involved.) There's no reason that
I can see that the Oerth and Greyhawk cosmologies can't be reconciled.
Jackhammer John
>>Ours is, but that's besides the point. You can't have calendars
>>with different numbers of days in a year in the same place without
>>one or another having to be adjusted occassionaly.
>
Justin Bacon wrote:
>This is an overly broad statements. The Mayans, for example, had something
>like
>a half dozen different calendars -- all of them with a different number of
>days. Many of these calendars were *extremely* accurate. They just happened
>to
>be calibrated to completely different things. (And I believe at least one of
>their calendars was simply not calibrated to anything in particular. It just
>meandered along for the sake of meandering along.)
>
>This lack of convergence was, in fact, a feature. The Mayans were very
>conscious of cycles, and very afraid of cycles coming to an end (moments at
>which they believed that the world could potentially come to an end). By
>monitoring a large number of different cyclical events in nature, they
>believed
>they were minimizing the chances of the world coming to an end (because all
>of
>the cycles would only synch up once in a very great while -- and only at that
>point would the overall cycle come to an end, and risk ending the world).
>
>(This summary is a vastly simplified version of my own, shallow knowledge of
>the subject.)
>
>JB
>
>
>
Very well said. Thanks for the info. I had forgotten about the Mayan
calendars system until you brought it up. The calendar conflict should be the
least of my problems if I should choose to have both worlds of FR and GH as
different land masses or lands on the same continent.
Ubiquitous
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>Yes, you can. My thinking was that on my world the two places are so
>far apart the neither have heard of the other or just in rumors. So two
>calendars could be in place with different years and months and such.
But without a procession of dates or a different number of days per year?
Jackhammer John
>In article <20011024220532...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
>johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>
>>Yes, you can. My thinking was that on my world the two places are so
>>far apart the neither have heard of the other or just in rumors. So two
>>calendars could be in place with different years and months and such.
>But without a procession of dates or a different number of days per year?
>
>
>=================
I don't see it as a big problem, if the days are off by a drastic number, I can
adjust it easily. If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it. Not
every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
Justin Bacon
>If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it. Not
>every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
You can't do that. Sorry, but you can't. "A day or three" will very rapidly
send a calendar out of whack -- causing days which are supposed to fall during
the summer to fall during the winter, and vice versa.
Simply make the adjustment.
Justin Bacon
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CPRshark
>conscious of cycles, and very afraid of cycles coming to an end (moments at
>which they believed that the world could potentially come to an end)
Let's not forget that one the grand cycle is ending in the year 2012 or
something...fun, fun, fun..
the r.o.n.
Jackhammer John
Of course it would through it out of whack! That's the whole point! My next
adventure: IN SEARCH OF THE LEAP YEAR!
Jackhammer John
>>
>>Jackhammer John wrote:
>>>If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it. Not
>>>every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
>>
>>You can't do that. Sorry, but you can't. "A day or three" will very rapidly
>>send a calendar out of whack -- causing days which are supposed to fall
>>during
>>the summer to fall during the winter, and vice versa.
>>
>>Simply make the adjustment.
>>
>>Justin Bacon
>>tria...@aol.com
>
:Of course it would through it out of whack! That's the whole point! My next
>adventure: IN SEARCH OF THE LEAP YEAR!
>
>
>==============================
Correction: I meant to say, "Of course it would throw it out of whack," not
"through." Thanks.
Stephenls
> Let's not forget that one the grand cycle is ending in the year 2012
> or something...fun, fun, fun..
<not really funny>
Maybe we should sacrifice half the population of the world or something
to play it safe.
</not really funny>
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Ubiquitous
In article <20011025103155...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
johnw...@aol.comnospam wrote...
>>But without a procession of dates or a different number of days per year?
>
>I don't see it as a big problem, if the days are off by a drastic number, I
>can adjust it easily. If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it.
>Not every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
But neither the GH or FR calandars have leap years, and the reason leap
years were added because over time, months shifted seasons (and continue
to).
Lucius Chiaraviglio
>Jackhammer John wrote:
>>If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it. Not
>>every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
>
>You can't do that. Sorry, but you can't. "A day or three" will very rapidly
>send a calendar out of whack -- causing days which are supposed to fall during
>the summer to fall during the winter, and vice versa.
Calendars that drift relative to each other exist on Earth today and
are in noticeable use in some technologically advanced countries today. See
the Calendar FAQ, http://www.tondering.dk/claus/calendar.html (in particular,
see http://www.pauahtun.org/CalendarFAQ/cal/node5.html).
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Jackhammer John
>tria...@aol.com (Justin Bacon) wrote:
>>Jackhammer John wrote:
>>>If it is a day or three, well I would just leave it. Not
>>>every calendar is the same on earth. Hence Leap Years.
>>
>>You can't do that. Sorry, but you can't. "A day or three" will very rapidly
>>send a calendar out of whack -- causing days which are supposed to fall
>during
>>the summer to fall during the winter, and vice versa.
>
> Calendars that drift relative to each other exist on Earth today and
>are in noticeable use in some technologically advanced countries today. See
>the Calendar FAQ, http://www.tondering.dk/claus/calendar.html (in particular,
>see http://www.pauahtun.org/CalendarFAQ/cal/node5.html).
>
>--
>Lucius Chiaraviglio
WOW, very nice. Thanks for the links.
Brad Wallace
> years were added because over time, months shifted seasons (and continue
> to).
As I recall the FR calender does have a leap year. It is called Shieldmeet and
takes place right after the Midsummer holiday every 4 years.