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Justisaur

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:48:10 AM4/27/12
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It's a strange observation, but burning webs is ingrained in D&D, the
web spell even does more damage as it burns... But I found that webs
don't hold a flame... Silk, pretty much the same thing won't hold a
flame. It will burn leaving behind ash, but will not continue to burn
when a flame is removed.

Thus one should be able to clear away webs with a flame easily, but it
shouldn't continue to burn.

Dust on webs will burn quickly, holding a flame though, so if the webs
are old and covered in it it could burn, but the web spell shouldn't.

Of course we can say "It's magic" in the case of the spell, and make
up something about giant D&D spiders spinning flammable webs if you
still want it to work that way.

- Justisaur

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Apr 27, 2012, 5:17:38 AM4/27/12
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That's how giant spiders cook their food after they catch it.

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El Rico D

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:40:13 PM4/27/12
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It started as a misunderstanding by Gary, and spread from there.

tussock

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Apr 27, 2012, 7:35:01 AM4/27/12
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Justisaur wrote:

> It's a strange observation, but burning webs is ingrained in D&D, the
> web spell even does more damage as it burns... But I found that webs
> don't hold a flame... Silk, pretty much the same thing won't hold a
> flame. It will burn leaving behind ash, but will not continue to burn
> when a flame is removed.

Lamp oil doesn't hold a flame either, it needs a wick. Hell, you can
(but never ever should) throw a match in gasoline to put it out, it takes
vaporised fuel to burn (most fuel has a vaporised layer just above the
surface, so seriously, don't). Of course, it takes vaporised wood to burn
too, so that's not as clever as it sounds.

> Thus one should be able to clear away webs with a flame easily, but it
> shouldn't continue to burn.

People also don't burn, neither does medieval armour, nor anything else
they wear. Burning clothes is mostly what happens since we started making
them from oils. Hair doesn't burn properly either, unless you cover it in
flammable spray.

Still, exposure to fire can make your skin melt, which isn't good.

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tussock

Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Apr 27, 2012, 4:51:24 PM4/27/12
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Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Mostly, I suspect, the meme comes from scary movies, where the
cobwebs burn nicesly. Of course, they're not actual spider webs, and
what they're made of isn't spider silk.

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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

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Apr 27, 2012, 4:54:00 PM4/27/12
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tussock <sc...@clear.net.nz> wrote in
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> Justisaur wrote:
>
>> It's a strange observation, but burning webs is ingrained in
>> D&D, the web spell even does more damage as it burns... But I
>> found that webs don't hold a flame... Silk, pretty much the
>> same thing won't hold a flame. It will burn leaving behind
>> ash, but will not continue to burn when a flame is removed.
>
> Lamp oil doesn't hold a flame either, it needs a wick. Hell,
> you can
> (but never ever should) throw a match in gasoline to put it out,
> it takes vaporised fuel to burn (most fuel has a vaporised layer
> just above the surface, so seriously, don't).

Er, no, not really. You can put a cigarette out in gasoline, but
throwing matches at gas is extremely likely to light it up.

> Of course, it
> takes vaporised wood to burn too, so that's not as clever as it
> sounds.
>
>> Thus one should be able to clear away webs with a flame easily,
>> but it shouldn't continue to burn.
>
> People also don't burn,

Strictly speaking, actually, with a proper wick, yes, people do burn,
or at least, human fat does. It's called the "wick effect," and it's
what causes so-called spontaneous human combustion.

Justisaur

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Apr 27, 2012, 5:52:12 PM4/27/12
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On Apr 27, 4:35 am, tussock <sc...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> Justisaur wrote:
> > It's a strange observation, but burning webs is ingrained in D&D, the
> > web spell even does more damage as it burns... But I found that webs
> > don't hold a flame... Silk, pretty much the same thing won't hold a
> > flame.  It will burn leaving behind ash, but will not continue to burn
> > when a flame is removed.
>
>     Lamp oil doesn't hold a flame either, it needs a wick. Hell, you can
> (but never ever should) throw a match in gasoline to put it out, it takes
> vaporised fuel to burn (most fuel has a vaporised layer just above the
> surface, so seriously, don't). Of course, it takes vaporised wood to burn
> too, so that's not as clever as it sounds.

Depends what you mean by lamp oil. Kerosene will burn quite well
(could AD&D lamp oil be all kerosene?). So will even cooking oil - if
you heat it enough first.

Well it does jive with one of my other contentions about AD&D land -
that the atmosphere must be much higher in Oxygen.

>     Still, exposure to fire can make your skin melt, which isn't good.

No... I don't want my skin to melt. I've seen too many pictures of
burn victims, just on TV.

- Justisaur

David Trimboli

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Apr 27, 2012, 9:47:16 PM4/27/12
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On 4/27/2012 5:52 PM, Justisaur wrote:
> On Apr 27, 4:35 am, tussock<sc...@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>> Justisaur wrote:
>>> It's a strange observation, but burning webs is ingrained in D&D, the
>>> web spell even does more damage as it burns... But I found that webs
>>> don't hold a flame... Silk, pretty much the same thing won't hold a
>>> flame. It will burn leaving behind ash, but will not continue to burn
>>> when a flame is removed.
>>
>> Lamp oil doesn't hold a flame either, it needs a wick. Hell, you can
>> (but never ever should) throw a match in gasoline to put it out, it takes
>> vaporised fuel to burn (most fuel has a vaporised layer just above the
>> surface, so seriously, don't). Of course, it takes vaporised wood to burn
>> too, so that's not as clever as it sounds.
>
> Depends what you mean by lamp oil. Kerosene will burn quite well
> (could AD&D lamp oil be all kerosene?). So will even cooking oil - if
> you heat it enough first.

You don't need to heat it first. Pour some room-temperature cooking oil
into a dish, dip a piece of string in the oil, then prop it upright in
the oil with a bent paperclip. Light the string. It'll burn just fine.

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David Trimboli
http://www.trimboli.name/

dr...@bin.sh

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Apr 27, 2012, 11:42:23 PM4/27/12
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Alien mind control rays made tussock <sc...@clear.net.nz> write:
> Hell, you can (but never ever should) throw a match in gasoline
> to put it out, it takes vaporised fuel to burn (most fuel has a
> vaporised layer just above the surface, so seriously, don't).

on the other hand, a big mess of maggots mixed with gasoline and
dumped in the middle of the street makes for a merry little bonfire.
not that i'd know anything about it, officer.

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