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UPDATE: The Geek Code 2.1

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Robert A. Hayden

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Jul 18, 1994, 11:36:24 AM7/18/94
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Thanks to many quick and helpful responses, I have corrected most of the
glaring errors in version 2.0 of the geek code. Hopefully it will now at
least be internally consistent with itself.

Enjoy

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Suggestions welcome.

Send them to:
Robert A. Hayden: <hay...@krypton.mankato.msus.edu>
GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$
3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+
b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++**

------------------- The Code of the Geeks v2.1 ---------------------------
---------------------- July 18, 1994 ------------------------------

So you think you are a geek, eh? The first step is to admit to yourself
your geekiness. No matter what anyone says, geeks are people too; geeks
have rights. So take a deep breath and announce to the world that you are
a geek. Your courage will give you strength that will last you forever.

How to tell the world you are a geek, you ask? Use the universal Geek
code. By joining the geek organization, you have license to use this
special code that will allow you to let other un-closeted geeks know who
you are in a simple, codified statement.

The single best way to announce your geekhood is to add your geek code to
signature file and announce it far and wide. But be careful, you may give
other geeks the courage to come out of the closet. You might want to hang
on to your copy of the code in order to help them along.

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BACKGROUND:
The first version of the Geek Code was 0.1 and consisted of only
about five categories. 0.2 was mostly a spelling and bug fix.
0.3 added a couple more categories.

1.0 was released about 4 months after 0.3 on July 17, 1993 and
added several more categories as well as the rules for cross-overs
and variables. 1.0.1 was a bug-fix released later that day.

Over the course of the next year or so, I received some 75 or so
various suggestions for improvements and changs in the Geek Code.
Due to time, I wasn't able to sit down and collect and sort all of
the suggestions and put everything together. Finally, in early
July, 1994, I found the time and decided that I would release
version 2.0 on July 17, 1994, one year after version 1.0. Version
2.0 and represents the recommendations of many dozens of people
too numerous to mention in here.

This version, 2.1, represents the fixing of several serious bugs
that slipped through while I was in a hurry to get 2.0 out the
door.

I hope you like the Geek Code and find it an entertaining and
useful file.

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INSTRUCTIONS:
The geek code consists of several categories. Each category is labeled
with a letter and some qualifiers. Go through each category and determine
which set of qualifiers best describes you in that category. By stringing
all of these 'codes' together, you are able to construct your overall geek
code. It is this single line of code that will inform other geeks the
world over of what a great geek you actually are.

Some of the qualifiers will very probably not match with you exactly.
Simply choose that qualifier that MOST CLOSELY matches you. Also, some
activities described in a specific qualifier you may not engage in, while
you do engage in others. Each description of each qualifier describes the
wide range of activities that apply, so as long as you match with one, you
can probably use that qualifier.

Also, pay particular attention to case-sensitivity, there can be a big
difference between a 'u' and a 'U'.

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VARIABLES:
Geeks can seldom be quantified. To facilitate the fact that within any
one category the geek may not be able determine a specific rating,
variables have been designed to allow this range to be included.

@ for variable, said trait is not very rigid, may change with
time or with individual interaction. For example, Geeks
who happen to very much enjoy Star Trek: The Next Generation,
but dislike the old 60's series might list themselves as
t++@.
() for indicating "cross-overs" or ranges. Geeks who go from
C+ to C--- depending on the situation (i.e. mostly "c+") could
use C+(---). Another example might be an m++(**). This
would be a person who mostly listens to classical music, but
also has an extensive collection of other types of works.
> for 'wannabe' ratings. Indicating that while the geek is
currently at one rating, they are striving to reach another.
For example, C->++
$ Indicates that this particular category is done for a
living. For example, UL+++$ indicates that the person
utilizes unix and gets paid for it. Quite a lucky geek,
for sure.

@ is different from () in that () has finite limits within the
category, while @ ranges all over.

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Type:
Geeks come in many flavors. The flavors relate to the vocation of the
particular geek. To start a code, a geek must declare himself or herself
to be a geek. To do this, we start the code with a "G" to denote "GEEK",
followed by one or two letters to denote the geeks occupation or field of
study. Multi-talented geeks with more than one vocational training should
denote their myriad of talents with a slash between each vocation
(example: GCS/MU/T).

GB -- Geek of Business
GC -- Geek of Classics
GCA -- Geek of Commercial Arts
GCM -- Geek of Computer Management
GCS -- Geek of Computer Science
GE -- Geek of Engineering
GED -- Geek of Education
GFA -- Geek of Fine Arts
GG -- Geek of Government
GH -- Geek of Humanities
GJ -- Geek of Jurisprudence (Law)
GL -- Geek of Literature
GM -- Geek of Math
GMD -- Geek of Medicine
GMU -- Geek of Music
GP -- Geek of Philosophy
GPM -- Geek of Pre-Med
GS -- Geek of Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, etc.)
GSS -- Geek of Social Science (Psychology, Sociology, etc.)
GT -- Geek of Theater
GTW -- Geek of Technical Writing

GO -- Geek of Other. Some types of geeks deviate from the
normal geek activities. This is encouraged as true geeks
come from all walks of life.
GU -- Geek of 'Undecided'. This is a popular vocation with
incoming freshmen.

GAT -- Geek of All Trades. For those geeks that can do
anything and everything. GAT usually precludes the use
of other vocational descriptors.

G! -- Geek of No Qualifications

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S E C T I O N I
APPEARANCE
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Dress:
Geeks come in many different types of dress.

d++ I tend to wear conservative dress such as a business
suit.
d+ I tend to wear trendy political messages like "Save the
Whales" or "Free South Africa".
d I dress a lot like those found in catalog ads. Bland,
boring, without life or meaning.
d- I tend to wear trendy political messages like "Nuke the
Humans", "Question Authority", or "Big Brother's Watching".
d-- I wear jeans to work just to piss off my boss
d--- At work, I have holes in my jeans and/or obscenities on
my shirt.
d---- Punk dresser

dx Cross Dresser
d? I have no idea what I am wearing right now, let alone
what I wore yesterday.
!d No clothing. Quite a fashion statement, don't you think?
-d+ I wear the same clothes all the time, no matter the
occasion, often forgetting to do laundry between wearings.

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Hair:
Just as geeks have a stylish dress appearance, a geek's hair can also be an
important statement. Add an 'h' rating to tell about your hair.

H+++ My hair goes down past my waist
H++ My hair dangles to my mid-back
H+ It's down to about my shoulders
H It's just pretty normal hair
H- It's cut above the neck
H-- Above the neck AND ear (flattop)
H--- It's about 1/8" long.
H---- I shave my head daily, otherwise it gets too long

!H I'm bald
H? I have wigs that allow me to vary my hair
H* My hair is dyed funky flavors (add the '*' to one of the
above)

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Shape:
Geeks come in many shapes and sizes. Shape code is divided into two parts.
The first indicates height, while the second indicates roundness. Mix each
section to fit yourself. Examples include: s:++, s++:, s++:--.

s+++:+++ I usually have to duck through doors/I take up
three movie seats.
s++:++ I'm a basketball/linebacker candidate.
s+:+ I'm a little taller/rounder than most.
s I'm an average geek
s-:- I look up to most people. Everyone tells me to gain
a few pounds.
s--:-- I look up to damn near everybody. I tend to have
to fight against a strong breeze.
s---:--- I take a phone book with me when I go out so I can
see to eat dinner. My bones are poking through my
skin.

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Glasses:
Geeks have traditionally worn glasses.

g+++ I have coke-bottle classes that I can use to start leaves
on fire in the hot sun.
g++ I've got four eyes and tape in the middle.
g+ I've got four eyes, what's your point?
g- I have contacts
g-- I have colored contacts
g--- I have those funky contact that have interesting designs on
them such as happy faces or some such.

!g I have no glasses.
g? I can't find my glasses.

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Pens:
Geeks have lots of pens (and pen-like things) in their shirt pockets. Look
down at your shirt pocket and count them. Add a p(number) into your code,
where p stands for pen-count.

p# Average number of pens or pencils in a geek's pocket at
any given moment in time.
p? I can't find a writing instrument
!p pens are obsolete. I have a newton.

If there is also a calculator (or slide rule) often attached to your belt or
in your pocket or you carry a portable computer around with you, add a plus
sign, i.e. p4+.

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Automobile:
There is an old saying that one's wheels define a person. Tell the world
about yours.

au++++ I have my chauffeured limo take me everywhere.
au+++ I own four different colored Mercedes.
au++ I drive a brand new car that cost more than most houses
au+ I have a sporty-looking car which would be a babe-mobile
if I wasn't such a geek.
au I drive a car which I bought from my parents. It has four
doors even though I'm the only one who ever rides in it.
au- I drive my parents' car. Hey, if I could afford my own I
wouldn't be living at home with them (see section on
housing).
au-- My car has rust everywhere and the muffler drags along
the ground.
au--- I drive a '77 Pinto which went over 100,000 miles two
years ago.
au---- I have a Yugo

!au I don't have a car
au* I have a motorcycle

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Age:
The only way to become a true geek is through practice and experience. To
this end, your age becomes an important part of your geekiness. Use the
qualifiers below to show your age (in Terran years).

a+++ 60 and up
a++ 50-59
a+ 40-49
a 30-39
a- 20-29
a-- 10-19
a--- 9 and under
a? ageless
!a it's none of your business how old I am

In addition, if you wish to give your exact age, you can place the number
after the 'a' identifier. For example: a42

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Weirdness:
Geeks have a seemingly natural knack for being "weird". Of course, this is
a subjective term as one person's weirdness is another person's normalness.
As a general rule, the following weird qualifiers allow a geek to rate their
weirdness.

w+++ Mainstream? I heard of that once, I think.
w++ I am so weird, I make Al Yankovic look sane.
w+ so? what's your problem with weird.
w I am not weird. I'm perfectly normal.
w- I'm more normal that most people normally are.
w-- I am so incredibly boring...

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Verbage:
A geeks mastery of the spoken language is an important attribute. Tell us
about it.

v--- I don't talk. I just type.
v-- When I talk, people usually look mildly embarrassed.
v- I use words like 'grok' in everyday conversation.
v At least I speak in complete sentences. Usually.
v+ People compliment me on my vocabulary.
v++ People compliment me on my eloquence.
v+++ I was the regional forensics champ.

!v Speech is irrelevant, I use telepathy
v? I mumble
v* I babble

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S E C T I O N II
COMPUTERS
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Computers:
Most geeks identify themselves by their use of computers and computer
networks. In order to quantify your geekiness level on computers, consult
the following (consider the term 'computers' synonymous with 'computer
network'):

C++++ I'll be first in line to get the new cybernetic interface
installed into my skull.
C+++ You mean there is life outside of Internet? You're shittin'
me! I live for muds. I haven't dragged myself to class in
weeks.
C++ Computers are a large part of my existence. When I get up
in the morning, the first thing I do is log myself in. I
mud on weekends, but still manage to stay off of academic
probation.
C+ Computers are fun and I enjoy using them. I play a mean
game of DOOM! and can use a word processor without resorting
to the manual too often. I know that a 3.5" disk is not a
hard disk. I also know that when it says 'press any key to
continue', I don't have to look for a key labeled 'ANY'.
C Computers are a tool, nothing more. I use it when it serves
my purpose.
C- Anything more complicated than my calculator and I'm
screwed.
C-- Where's the on switch?
C--- If you even mention computers, I will rip your head off!

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Unix:
It seems that a Unix-based operating system is the OS of choice among most
geeks. In addition to telling us about your unix abilities, you can also
show which specific unix OS you are using. To accomplish this, you include
a letter showing the brand with your rating. For example: UL++++ would
indicate a sysadmin running Linux.

B BSD (use this unless your BSDish system is mentioned below)
L Linux
U Ultrix
A AIX
V SysV
H HPUX
I IRIX
O OSF/1
S Sun OS/Solaris
C SCO Unix
X NeXT
? Some other one not listed

U++++ I am the sysadmin. If you try and crack my machine don't be
surprised if the municipal works department gets an
"accidental" computer-generated order to put start a new
landfill on your front lawn.
U+++ I don't need to crack /etc/passwd because I just modified
su so that it doesn't prompt me. The admin staff doesn't
even know I'm here. If you don't understand what I just
said, this category does NOT apply to you!
U++ I've get the entire admin ticked off at me because I am
always using all of the CPU time and trying to run programs
that I don't have access to. I'm going to try cracking
/etc/passwd next week, just don't tell anyone.
U+ I not only have a unix account, but I slam VMS any chance I
get.
U I have a unix account to do my stuff in
U- I have a VMS account.
U-- I've seen unix and didn't like it. DEC rules!
U--- Unix geeks are actually nerds in disguise.

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Perl:
If you enjoy at least U++ status you have to know about Perl, so you
might as well rate yourself in this sub-category. Non-unix geeks don't
know what they're missing.

P++++ I don't write Perl, I speak it. Perl has superseded all
other programming languages. I firmly believe that all
programs can be reduced to a Perl one-liner. I use Perl to
achieve U+++ status.
P+++ Perl is a very powerful programming tool. Not only do I no
longer write shell scripts, I also no longer use awk or
sed. I use Perl for all programs of less than a thousand
lines.
P++ Perl is a powerful programming tool. I don't write shell
scripts anymore because I write them in Perl.
P+ I know of perl. I like perl. I just haven't learned much
perl, but it is on my agenda.
P- What's Perl got that awk and sed don't have?
P-- Perl users are sick, twisted programmers who are just showing
off.
P--- Perl combines the power of sh, the clarity of sed, and the
performance of awk with the simplicity of C. It should be
banned.

P? What's Pearl?
!P Our paranoid admin won't let us install perl! Says it's a
"hacking tool".

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Linux
Linux is a hacker-written operating system virtually identical to unix. It
originally and continues to run on your standard 386/486/Pentium PC, but is
also being ported to other systems. Because it is still a young OS, and
because it is continually evolving from hacker changes and support, it is
important that the geek list his Linux ability.

L++++ I am Linus, hear me roar.
L+++ I am a Linux wizard. I munch C code for breakfast and have
enough room left over for a kernel debugging. I have so
many patches installed that I lost track about ten versions
ago. Linux newbies consider me a net.god.
L++ I use Linux almost exclusively on my system. I monitor
comp.os.linux.* and even answer questions some times. I've
aliased Linux FTP sites to make getting new software easier.
L+ I've managed to get Linux installed and even used it a few
times. It seems like it is just another OS.
L I know what Linux is, but that's about all
L- I have no desire to use Linux and frankly don't give a rats
patootie about it.
L-- Unix sucks. Because Linux = Unix. Linux Sucks. I worship
Bill Gates.
L--- I am Bill Gates.

!L I don't even know what Linux is!

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386bsd:
386bsd is another version of Unix written for 80x86 like systems. Often
there is a friendly (and periodically not-so-friendly) rivalry between the
forces of Linux and the forces of 386bsd. Identify your BSDish rating
below.

3+++ I am a 386bsd wizard. I munch C code for breakfast and have
enough room left over for a kernel debugging. I have so
many patches installed that I lost track about ten versions
ago. 386bsd newbies consider me a net.god.
3++ I use 386bsd almost exclusively on my system. I monitor
comp.os.386bsd.* and even answer questions some times. I've
aliased BSD FTP sites to make getting new software easier.
3+ I've managed to get 386bsd installed and even used it a few
times. It seems like it is just another OS.
3 I know what it is, but that's about all
3- I have no desire to use 386bsd and frankly don't give a rats
patootie about it.
3-- Unix sucks. Because 386bsd = Unix. 386bsd Sucks. I worship
Bill Gates.
3--- I am USL's lawyer.

!3 I don't even know what 386bsd is!

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Emacs:
GNU Emacs is the do-all be-everything editor available for just about
every computer architecture out there.

E+++ Emacs is my login shell!! M-x doctor is my psycologist!
I use emacs to control my TV and toaster oven! All you
vi people don't know what you're missing! I read
alt.relgion.emacs, alt.sex.emacs, and comp.os.emacs.
E++ I know and use elisp regularly!
E+ Emacs is great! I read my mail and news with it!
E Yeah, I know what emacs is, and use it as my regular
editor.
E- Emacs is too big and bloated for my tastes
E-- Emacs is just a fancy word processor
E--- Emacs sucks! vi forever!!!
E---- Emacs sucks! pico forever!!!

E? Emacs? What's that?

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Usenet News:
Usenet, a global collection of flaming opinions and senseless babble, was
designed as a way to eat up precious spool space on a system's hard drive.
It also is a way for people to talk about things.

N++++ I am Tim Pierce
N+++ I read so many news groups that the next batch of news
comes in before I finish reading the last batch, and I
have to read for about 2 hours straight before I'm caught
up on the morning's news. Then there's the afternoon...
N++ I read all the news in a select handful of groups.
N+ I read news recreationally when I have some time to kill.
N Usenet News? Sure, I read that once
N- News is a waste of my time and I avoid it completely
N-- News sucks! 'Nuff said.

N* All I do is read news
!N We don't have news.

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Kibo
Kibo is. That is all that can be said.

K++++++ I _am_ Kibo
K+++++ I've had sex with Kibo
K++++ I've met Kibo
K+++ I've gotten mail from Kibo
K++ I've read Kibo
K+ I like Kibo
K I know who Kibo is
K- I don't know who Kibo is
K-- I dislike Kibo
K--- I am currently hunting Kibo down with the intent of ripping
his still-beating heart out of his chest and showing it to
him as he dies
K--- I am Xibo

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MS-Windows:
A good many geeks use the MicroSoft windows program running on DOS to
operate their PCs. Rate your Windows Geekiness.

W++++ I have Windows, Windows NT, and Windows NT Advanced Server
all running on my SMP RISC machine. I haven't seen daylight
in six months.
W+++ I am a MS Windows programming god. I wrote a VxD driver to
allow MS Windows and DOS to share the use of my waffle iron.
P.S. Unix sux.
W++ I write MS Windows programs in C and think about using C++
someday. I've written at least one DLL.
W+ I have installed my own custom sounds, wallpaper, and screen
savers so my PC walks and talks like a fun house. Oh yeah,
I have a hundred TrueType(tm) fonts that I've installed but
never used.
W Ok, so I use MS Windows, I don't have to like it.
W- I'm still trying to install MS Windows and have at least one
peripheral that never works right
W-- MS Windows is a joke operating system. Hell, its not even an
operating system. NT is Not Tough enough for me either.
W--- Windows has set back the computing industry by at least 10
years. Bill Gates should be drawn, quarted, hung, shot,
poisoned, disembowelled, and then REALLY hurt.

!W I don't do Windows. Got a problem with that?

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Macintosh
Many geeks have abandoned the character-based computer and moved over to
the macintosh. It in important to give notification of your mac rating.

M++ I am a mac guru. Anything those dos putzes and unix
nerds can do, i can do better, and if not, I'll write
the damn software to do it.
M+ A mac has it's uses and I use it quite often.
M I use a mac, but I'm pretty indifferent about it.
M- Macs suck. All real geeks have a character prompt.
M-- Macs do more than suck. They make a user stupid by
allowing them to use the system without knowing what
they are doing. Mac weenies have lower IQs than the
fuzz in my navel.

M? What's a macintosh?

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VMS
Many geeks use the VMS operating system by DEC for all of their mainframe
and network activity.

V++ Unix is a passing fad compared to the real power in the
universe, my VMS system.
V+ I tend to like VMS better than Unix
V I've used VMS.
V- Unix is much better than VMS for my computing needs.
V-- I would rather smash my head repeatedly into a brick wall
than suffer the agony of working with VMS. It's
reminiscent of a dead and decaying pile of moose droppings.
Unix rules the universe.

!V I've not ever used VMS.

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S E C T I O N III
POLITICS
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Politics:
Geeks come from widely variant political backgrounds.

po+++ Fuckin' Minorities! Adolf Hitler is my hero! And so is
Rush Limbaugh!
po++ All in favor of eliminating free speech, say aye!
po+ Let's get the government off of big-business's back
po Politics? I've heard of that somewhere but in all honesty
I really don't give a shit.
po- Bring back the 60's
po-- I'm still living in the 60's
po--- No taxes through no government

-po+ Don't label me you moron! Both sides are equally fucked up!

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Cypherpunks:
With the birth of the overused buzzword "The Information Superhighway",
concerns over privacy from evil governmental bad-guys{tm} has led to the
formation of of an unofficial, loosely organized band of civil
libertarians who spend much of their time discussing how to insure privacy
in the information future. This group is known by some as "cypherpunks"
(to others, as anarchistic subversives). To this end, tell us how punkish
you are.

Y+++ I am T.C. May
Y++ I am on the cypherpunks mailing list and active around
Usenet. I never miss an opportunity to talk about the
evils of Clipper and the NSA. Orwells' 1984 is more than
a story, it is a warning to ours' and future generations.
I'm a member of the EFF.
Y+ I have an interest and concern in privacy issues, but in
reality I am not really all that active or vocal.
Y I'm pretty indifferent on the whole issue.
Y- It seems to me that all of these concerns are a little
extreme. I mean, the government must be able to protect
itself from criminals.
Y-- Get a life. The only people that need this kind of
protection are people with something to hide. I think
cypherpunks are just a little paranoid.
Y--- I am L. Detweiler.

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S E C T I O N IV
ENTERTAINMENT
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Star Trek:
Most geeks have an undeniable love for the Star Trek television show (in
any of its four forms). Because GEEK is often synonymous with TREKKIE
(real geeks aren't so anal as to label themselves TREKKER), it is
important that all geeks list their Trek rating.

t+++ It's not just a TV show, its a religion. I know all about
warp field dynamics and the principles behind the
transporter. I have memorized the TECH manual. I speak
Klingon. I go to cons with Vulcan ears on. I have no life.
t++ It's the best show around. I have all the episodes and the
movies on tape and can quote entire scenes verbatim. I've
built a few of the model kits too. But you'll never
catch me at one of those conventions. Those people are
kooks.
t+ It's a damn fine TV show and is one of the only things
good on television any more.
t It's just another TV show
t- Maybe it is just me, but I have no idea what the big deal
with Star Trek is. Perhaps I'm missing something but I just
think it is bad drama.
t-- Star Trek is just another Space Opera. William Shatner
isn't an actor, he's a poser! And what's with this Jean-Luc
Picard? A Frenchman with a British accent? Come on. I'd
only watch this show if my remote control broke.
t--- Star Trek SUCKS! It is the worst crap I have ever seen!
Hey, all you trekkies out there, GET A LIFE! (William
Shatner is a t---)

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Babylon 5:
For many years, Sci-Fi geeks have wished for a television show that would
overcome the limitations of Star Trek. For many, a new show called
Babylon 5 has met that demand, with a deep storyline, exciting characters
and state-of-the-art computer generated effects.

5+++ I am a True Worshipper of the Church of Joe who lives
eats breathes and thinks Babylon 5, and has Evil toughts
about stealing Joe's videotape archives just to see
episodes earlier. I am planning to break into the bank
and steal the triple-encoded synopsis of the 5-year arc.
5++ Finally a show that shows what a real future would look
like. None of this Picardian "Let's talk about it and be
friends" crap. And what's this? We finally get to see a
bathroom! Over on that Enterprise, they've been holding
it for over seven years!
5+ Babylon 5 certainly presents a fresh perspective in the
Sci-Fi universe. I watch it weekly.
5 I've seen it, I am pretty indifferent to it.
5- This show is sub-par. The acting is wooden, the special
effects are obviously poor quality. In general, it seems
like a very cheap Star Trek ripoff.
5-- You call this Sci-Fi? That is such a load of crap! This
show is just a soap with bad actors, piss-poor effects,
and lame storylines. Puh-leese.

!5 I've never seen Babylon 5

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Jeopardy:
Simply the geekiest television show in the world.

j+++ I dress like Art Fleming, practice Alex Trebek's vocal
nuances, and make a pilgrimage to the Jeopardy studio
every six months to either take the contestant test or
to cheer from the audience.
j++ I watch Jeopardy regularly, and annoy others in the
college rec center by shouting out the answers.
j+ I watch Jeopardy regularly.
j Sure I watch it, but, hey, it's only a show.
j- Jeopardy? That's show's for a bunch of no-life eggheads.
j-- I annoy others in the college rec center by shouting out the
*wrong* answers.

!j I've never seen Jeopardy or don't watch it.
j# I've taken the Jeopardy test # number of times.
j$ I've won money on the show.
jP I've gotten the d*mn Lee Press-On Nails on the show (or some
other lame-o consolation prize).
jx I don't watch Jeopardy because it's too easy

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Role Playing:
Role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons have long been a part of the
traditional geek life. Because geeks often become so involved in their
role-playing that they lose touch with reality, include one of the following
role-playing codes.

R+++ I've written and publish my own gaming materials.
R++ There is no life outside the role of the die. I know all of
piddly rules of (chosen game). _MY_ own warped rules scare
the rest of the players.
R+ I've got my weekly sessions set up and a character that I
know better than I know myself.
R Role-Playing? That's just something to do to kill a
Saturday afternoon
R- Gosh, what an utter waste of time!
R-- Role-Players are instruments of pure evil.

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MAGIC: The Gathering:
Magic: The Gathering is taking over. If you haven't heard of it, it
involves collecting cards that summon creatures, cast spells, represent
artifacts, etc., for the purpose of reducing the opponent's life points
from 20 to 0 in the course of a game. Many of geeks have spent over $100
on these things, some a lot more.

G++++ I am considered a Magic(tm) god. I have nicknames for every
card and know just about every strategy there is.
G+++ I have a Lord of the Pit, a Black Lotus and a Reverse
Damage. I play for hours every night.
G++ I've spent almost $100 on cards. A good chunk of my spare time
goes into playing or constructing decks and keeping up my
checklist.
G+ Ok, ok, so I bought a few packs of cards. Big deal.
G I play Magic, if I can borrow a deck. It's an ok game.
G- I don't even play anymore. I just collect. My cards fill three
shoeboxes.
G-- I don't go to class/work anymore. Sometimes I don't sleep.
G--- I have 3 Lords of the Pit, Armageddon, Wrath of God, and two
Reverse Damages. I also have all five of the Elder
Dragon Legends. I can quote the exact wording and, in
some cases, casting cost, of any card on demand. I've
memorized the PPG. I am a Magic munchkin.
G---- Some friends and I are trying to get boxes of booster packs
at cost so we can sell them at a profit and buy more cards
at cost that we can sell for profit and buy more cards at....

G? What the hell _IS_ Magic?

G' I don't play Magic on purpose. It doesn't seem worth it.
G'' I make fun of my Magic-playing friends. Magic's a scam.
G''' I shun those who play Magic. They are stupid sheep who
can't see what an abovious scam it is.
G'''' I go out of my way to warn others of the dangers of "Crack
for Gamers" aka Magic:the Gathering.

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Television
Many geeks have lives that revolve around television.

tv+++ There's nothing I can experience "out there" that I can't
see coming over my satellite dish. I wish there were MORE
channels.
tv++ I just leave the tv on, to make sure I don't miss anything.
tv+ I watch some tv every day.
tv I watch only the shows that are actually worth while.
tv- I watch tv for the news and 'special programming.'
tv-- I turn my tv on during natural disasters.

!tv I do not own a television.

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Books:
In addition, many geeks have lives that revolve around books.

b+++ I consume a few books a week as part of a staple diet.
b++ I find the time to get through at least one new book a month.
b+ I enjoy reading, but don't get the time very often.
b I read the newspaper and the occasional book.
b- I read when there is no other way to get the information.
b-- I did not actually READ the geek code, I just had someone
tell me.

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DOOM!:
There is a game out for the PC-class (and soon others) computers called
DOOM. It's a 3D virtual reality simulation where you race around and blow
things away with large-caliber weaponry. It can be quite fun. Tell us
about your DOOM experiences.

D+++ I crank out PWAD files daily, complete with new monsters,
weaponry, sounds and maps. I'm a DOOM God. I can solve
the original maps in nightmare mode with my eyes closed.
D++ I've played the shareware version and bought the real one
and I'm actually pretty good at the game. I occasionally
download PWAD files and play them too.
D+ It's a fun, action game that is a nice diversion on a lazy
afternoon.
D I've played the game and I'm pretty indifferent.
D- I've played the game and really didn't think it was all
that impressive.
D-- It's an overly-violent game and pure crap
D--- I've seen better on my Atari 2600

!D I've never played Doom!

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Barney:
Some people have heard of the Great Purple One. How do they feel about
him?

B+++ I worship the ground He walks on. I wish to erect a
shrine for Him in my front yard. I feel a need to sell
all my worldly belongings, shave my head, and go to
airports where I will hand out Barney dolls and spread
His message of universal love for everyone regardless of
race, creed, color, sexual preference, or species.
B++ I don't miss an episode, except when I have to work or
go in for a root canal. Barney loves me.
B+ I like him. He has a nice, wholesome message. He's
good for the country.
B Hey, the little tykes love him, they don't go around
karate-chopping each other any more; what's the big deal?
B- Barney is annoying
B-- Don't talk to me about him. I'm getting sick of his
smarmy message. He makes me ill.
B--- He's sick. He's polluting our children's minds with
this love and tolerance crap. Boycott any station or
store that carries him. His head would really look good
on my wall next to stuffed Smurfs.

B? Who's Barney?

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Education:
All geeks have a varying amount of education.

e++++ Still pretty stupid, over qualified to work any job, went and
got my Ph.D.
e+++ Had not learned enough to know better not to go back and try
for a master's degree.
e++ Managed to finish my bachelors.
e+ Started a degree, plan to finish it some day.
e K-12, been on a college campus.
e- Got my bachelors, escaped alive, and am making hoards of
money writing unmaintainable (except by me) software.
e-- The company I work for was dumb enough to fund my way through
a masters degree, then started paying me even more money.
e--- Achieved a Ph.D, have devoted my life to insignificant
research, which my employer pays dearly for.

!e Flunked high school, learned life the hard way
e* I learned everything there is to know about life from the
"Hitchhiker's Trilogy".

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Music:
Musical interests vary widely, also.

u+++ I consider myself over-refined and grok that heavy-duty
elevator music.
u++ I consider myself refined and enjoy classical and new-age
selections
u+ I own a tape or CD collection (records also count, but you
would be admitting how old you really are).
u I occasionally listen to the radio
u- Just play it loud
u-- I play air-guitar better than anyone else.
u--- LISTEN! I SAID TO PLAY IT LOUD!

u* I listen to music that no one else has ever heard of
u** I listen to so many types of music that I can't even
keep them straight
-u I like _both_ kinds of music: Country AND Western

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Housing:
Tell us about your geeky home.

h++ Living in a cave with 47 computers and an Internet feed,
located near a Dominoes pizza. See !d.
h+ Living alone, get out once a week to buy food, no more than
once a month to do laundry. All surfaces covered.
h Friends come over to visit every once in a while to talk
about Geek things. There is a place for them to sit.
h- Living with one or more registered Geeks.
h-- Living with one or more people who know nothing about
being a Geek and refuse to watch 'Star Trek'.
h--- Married, with the potential for children. (persons living
with a fiance might as well label themselves h---, you're as
good as there already.)
h---- Married with children - Al Bundy can sympathize

h! I am stuck living with my parents!
h* I'm not sure where I live anymore. This lab/workplace seems
like home to me.

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Friends:
Yes, it's true; geeks do have friends. At least, some of them do.

f++ I have so many friends, I make other people jealous.
f+ I have quite a few really close friends. We get along great.
They are all other geeks, though.
f Yeah, I have friends. Who told you?
f- I have a few friends. They barely seem to speak to me
anymore.
f-- I've got about one friend left in the world, who probably
wants to shoot me.
f--- I used to have friends, but I didn't like it


f? I *think* I have friends.
f* Everyone is my friend.
!f I have no friends. Get lost.

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Relationships:
Many geeks are highly successful at having relationships, a good many
more are not. Give us the gritty details.

r+++ Found someone, dated, and am now married.
r++ I've dated my current SO for a long time
r+ I bounce from one relationship to another, but I have
quite a few.
r I date periodically
r- I have difficulty maintaining a relationship
r-- Most people aren't interested in dating me
r--- I'm beginning to think I'm a leper or something, the way
people avoid me like the plague

!r I've never had a relationship
r* signifying membership in the SBCA (Sour Bachelor(ette)'s
Club of America). The motto is 'Bitter, but not Desperate'.
First founded at Caltech.

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Nutrition:
Geeks usually consume food. Some eat everything they can grab while some
others are quite conscious of their food. (Note: 'n' is used for
nutrition as 'f' is used elsewhere.)

n+++ I graze like a bunny - pass me a carrot!
n++ I like the fibers in food
n+ I like food - especially when it is healthy.
n- Food? I just grab something from the shelves with meat in it.
n-- I eat only the cheap things - even with artificial meat and
vegetables.
n--- I eat meat - seen Jurassic Park?
n---- I _live_ on snacks and coke.

!n Eh what? never mind the menu, give me something to eat!

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Sex:
Geeks have traditionally had problems with sex (ie, they never have any).
Because geeks are so wrapped up in their sexuality (or lack of sexuality for
that matter), it is important that the geek be willing to quantify their
sexual experiences.

This code also is used to denote the gender of the geek. Females use 'x' in
this category, while males use 'y'. Those that do not wish to disclose
their gender can use 'z'. For example:
x+ A female who has had sex
y+ A male who has had sex.
z+ A person (gender undisclosed) who has had sex.

For those person who do not wish to give out any details of their sex life,
the use of x? (where x is the gender code) will allow you to so.

x++++ I have a few little rug rats to prove I've been there.
Besides, with kids around, who has time for sex?
x+++ I'm married, so I can get it (theoretically) whenever I
want.
x++ I was once referred to as 'easy'. I have no idea where that
might have come from though.
x+ I've had real, live sex.
x- I prefer computer sex to real sex.
x-- I was once referred to as a 'cyberslut', but I have no idea
where that might have come from.

x* I'm a pervert.
x** I've been known to make perverts look like angels.

!x Sex? What's that? I've had no sexual experiences.
x? It's none of your business what my sex life is like (this
is used to denote your gender only).
!x+ Sex? What's that? No experience, willing to learn!

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The Geek Code is copyright 1993,1994 by Robert A. Hayden. All rights
reserved. You are free to distribute this code in electronic format
provided that the file remains unmodified and this copyright notice
remains attached.

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P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++
j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++**

Michael McGovern

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Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

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Antony Richfield

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Le Grande Wazou (will...@halcyon.com) wrote:
: In article <1994Jul18....@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>,
: hay...@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden) wrote:

: > Thanks to many quick and helpful responses, I have corrected most of the

: > glaring errors in version 2.0 of the geek code. Hopefully it will now at
: > least be internally consistent with itself.

: > ...

: So, like, where's the ftp site for the HP-UX version? Does it include
: source code?

Been hacking too long, for sure ...

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GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
-----------------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------
Oh give me a weekend, give me a day.
I don't like what I'm seeing though I hear what you say.
Think with your dagger and you'll die on your knees,
Begging for mercy, singing: "Please, mister, please."
Chris Rea - Auberge

Allan Crain

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Jul 22, 1994, 4:46:48 AM7/22/94
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Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

Maybe for even more compatibility, there should be just one catagory
which lets you specify your computer of choice and expertise in it...

_______________________________________________________________________
Allan Crain | all...@crl.com | Allan on BayMOO (moo.crl.com 8888)
Mac User / They Might Be Giants fan / MOO programmer / Caffeine addict
I'd like to keep my .sig small, so my 2.0 Geek Code is only in my .plan

Antony Richfield

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Jul 22, 1994, 6:39:14 AM7/22/94
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Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

Amiga `geeks' aren't geeks, just misguided.

Simon Austin

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Jul 22, 1994, 10:37:10 AM7/22/94
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Antony Richfield (aric...@cs.sun.ac.za) wrote:

: Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
: : I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
: : s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

: Amiga `geeks' aren't geeks, just misguided.

<sigh> There's always one isn't there.

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Craig Dickson

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Jul 22, 1994, 10:53:33 AM7/22/94
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Michael McGovern writes:

| Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
|I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
|s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

The Amiga isn't a computer; it's a dead issue. Not including a code for
it was an act of mercy on Robert Hansen's part. Or maybe it just never
occurred to him, which would, after all, be perfectly understandable.
--
Craig Dickson % "Inscrutable people tend to drink inscrutable beer" - Elizabeth
GCS/TW d-- H+ s g+ p? !au a28 w+ v++ C++ UB++++ P+ L>+++ 3+ E++ N+++ K+++ W+++$
M@$ !V -po+ Y+ t !5 jx R G !tv b++(+++) D+ B- e+@ u** h+ f r>++ n+(----) y+(++)
alt.usenet.kooks FAQ/archives and Net.Legends FAQ: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/crd

Steve Saunders - CONTRACTOR 07/15/94 - bcool

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Jul 22, 1994, 4:44:15 PM7/22/94
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In article <30o11o$i...@crl4.crl.com> all...@crl.com (Allan Crain) writes:
>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
>: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
>: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??
>
> Maybe for even more compatibility, there should be just one catagory
>which lets you specify your computer of choice and expertise in it...

Something like "c:<arch><rating>:<arch><rating>:<arch><rating>" ("C" having
been taken for general aptitude/affection for computers and cybernetics.)
where <arch> is the flavor of computer
and <rating> is the standard +++ ---- etc...
There can be a bunch standard architecture-flavors, and if someone
has something different, they can put a literal in, for instance
those rare and awesome wizards of the Coleco Adam machines would be
c:mac+++:dos-:win++:adam+++++ (or some such ;)

noone

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Jul 22, 1994, 5:34:18 PM7/22/94
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In article <30o11o$i...@crl4.crl.com>, Allan Crain <all...@crl.com> wrote:
>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
>: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
>: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??
>
> Maybe for even more compatibility, there should be just one catagory
>which lets you specify your computer of choice and expertise in it...
>

Ridiculous ... what about those of us who use more than one kind?
We should be able to express expertise in each one, no?

btw: I haven't reviewed 2.0 yet ... is there an OS expertise code, or
just hardware? PC-clones support DOS, Windows (no comments please), WinNT,
OS/2, UNIX, Linux, and god knows what else...


-rmh

Mike Jittlov

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Jul 22, 1994, 10:42:59 PM7/22/94
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In article <crdCtC...@netcom.com>, Craig Dickson <c...@netcom.com> wrote:
>The Amiga isn't a computer; it's a dead issue. Not including a code for

My Amiga CrashMaster 2000 is _not_ dead! It's just metabolically
challenged. Every ten minutes orCore Dumped

P. Timmins

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Jul 23, 1994, 4:29:07 AM7/23/94
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Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?

Andrea Longo

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In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
: If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?

Because Commodore can't market their way out of a wet paper bag.


D.A. Kuder

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Jul 23, 1994, 8:54:50 AM7/23/94
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In article <dragondmC...@netcom.com>,

Michael McGovern <drag...@netcom.com> wrote:
>I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
>s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??

Amiga users just put the checkmark into their .sig. There is no need
to expand the geek code to handle it. Amiga users have been on the
forefront in this regard as I can remember seeing the checkmark well
before the geek code came into existence. Check out alt.fan.warlord
for more details.

Andy G Ihnatko

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jit...@erehwon.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:

>My Amiga CrashMaster 2000 is _not_ dead! It's just metabolically
>challenged. Every ten minutes orCore Dumped


No, through an advanced tomographical IR interface, the Amiga takes
repeated scans of your tendons and joints through the mouse and keyboard
and shuts itself down if it thinks you're close to a repetitive-stress
injury...

-- Andy
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Steve Brinich

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Jul 23, 1994, 7:40:53 PM7/23/94
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As somebody already said, the codes should be open-ended, with the
computer(s) of choice listed, and a rating for each.
The existing list both leaves out some types (Amiga) and wastes space
(with all those superfluous UNIX flavors listed).

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Andre Downer

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I was just curious. I am thinking that I might possibly be getting out of Magic when I get back to school (senior year of physics/math leaves little free time) and I was wondering what exactly I could get as far as offers for the following cards (all are in excellent condition unless otherwise noted)


Full Black bordered ALPHA/BETA set (with approx 20 betas)
Full Arabian Nights set
Full Antiquities Set
Full Legends set

13 Extra Moxen
3 Extra Loti
3 Extra Gauntlets
4 Extra Forcefields
2 Extra Chaos Orbs
1 Extra Icy Manipulator
2 Extra Time walks2 Extra Time walks
1 Extra Time Vault
2 Extra Time Twisters
1 Extra Ancestral Recall


Lots of extra alpha/beta rare cards (2 Extra Nightmares, 2 Extra Paladins, etc)

Extra Arabian Nights:

1 Guardian Beast
1 Ali From Cairo
1 Eye for an Eya
1 Shaharazad

Also many extra Antiquities and Legends

And of course tons of commons

I am not sure if I really want ot do this, but if I get some really tempting
offers than I probably will.

Oh well.

Andre

The Dragon De Monsyne

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Jul 25, 1994, 4:17:35 AM7/25/94
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P. Timmins (mi...@ccs.neu.edu) wrote:

Two words: Commodore Marketing

If it is so bad, then WHY are Samsung, Phillips, Amstrad, POSSIBLY HP, &
abt a dozen other co.'s arguing over who gets the right to continue
production of the Amiga line?? Eh?

& Now, on a topic that's ACTUALLY related to this thread:
I think having one catagory for type of computer is a good idea.
How'bout a series of 'tags' lableing each typp of computer, & the GIQ's
experience w/ it??
Like Thus C{am:+++++, pc:-, mac:+} (The 'tags' here being 'am' for
Amiga, 'pc' for Pc-clones, & 'mac' for (what else? ) macs) (The 'C' of
course, is for Computer. Creative ain't I? ) This, of course should
measure HARDWARE experiance, that is, being able to fiddle w/ the nuts &
bolts of the thing (& still have it work). SOFTWARE experiance, would
probably be better classed by OS, doncha think? You could use the tags
there too. Like OS{ ad:+++++, msd:---, ams:+++, ux:++++, os2:++, vms:--

Paul Neve

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Andrea Longo (lo...@undergrad.csee.usf.edu) wrote:

: In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
: : If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?

: Because Commodore can't market their way out of a wet paper bag.

Neither can Atari and they're still around...

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In article <310q9s$n...@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>,

Paul Neve <cs_...@king.ac.uk> wrote:
>Andrea Longo (lo...@undergrad.csee.usf.edu) wrote:
>: In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
>: : If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?
>
>: Because Commodore can't market their way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>Neither can Atari and they're still around...

They somehow managed to con IBM into paying for the Jag. :/ God knows,
they deserve to go bankrupt. First the ST, then the Falcon, and now the
Jag. Bastards. The only good thing to come from Atari Corp was the 8bit...

>Email (INTERNET): cs_...@ceres.king.ac.uk
>-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
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>it and like it you are required to | I know a good cure for space mumps."
>send me 5 pounds registration fee. | (Kryten, upon meeting Lt. Worf)
>-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
> Paul "Insanity is an art form" Neve

What if I like your .sig without reading it?

A.X. Lias

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Jul 25, 1994, 11:54:47 PM7/25/94
to
Paul Neve (cs_...@king.ac.uk) wrote:

: Andrea Longo (lo...@undergrad.csee.usf.edu) wrote:
: : In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
: : : If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?

: : Because Commodore can't market their way out of a wet paper bag.

: Neither can Atari and they're still around...

Which should tell you something about Commodore's marketing skills.

--
Andrew Lias | anrw...@netcom.com | Frobozz on IRC
*-------------------*-------------------------------*----------------------*
"Who you calling a black kettle? That should be an Afro-American Metallic
Cooking Aid, thank you very much!"

Craig Dickson

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Jul 26, 1994, 12:46:33 AM7/26/94
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Paul Neve writes:

|Andrea Longo (lo...@undergrad.csee.usf.edu) wrote:
|: In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
|: : If it was so good, why'd Commie Inc. go bottoms up?
|
|: Because Commodore can't market their way out of a wet paper bag.
|
|Neither can Atari and they're still around...

Probably not for long, though...


--
Craig Dickson % "Inscrutable people tend to drink inscrutable beer" - Elizabeth
GCS/TW d-- H+ s g+ p? !au a28 w+ v++ C++ UB++++ P+ L>+++ 3+ E++ N+++ K+++ W+++$
M@$ !V -po+ Y+ t !5 jx R G !tv b++(+++) D+ B- e+@ u** h+ f r>++ n+(----) y+(++)

World Wide Web alt.usenet.kooks archives: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/crd/crd.html

Stephen J. Okay

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Jul 26, 1994, 8:03:40 AM7/26/94
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In article <30o7ki$b...@itu1.sun.ac.za> aric...@cs.sun.ac.za (Antony Richfield) writes:
>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Hmmmm GLARING error in the Computers section here!
>: I see a PC rating, a Mac, rating... BUT how are all us Amiga geeks
>: s'poset to express our wisdom about the best computer on the planet, Eh??
>
>Amiga `geeks' aren't geeks, just misguided.

Bite me pink boy....

----Steve(Its fun, I assure you...)
--
------------
The Jetdillo Project:2000 lbs of steel,20,000 lbs. of thrust. 1 pair of very
dark shades.The world's first fully cybernetic, SSTO-capable armadillo. Coming
soon from Armadillo Labs. The Dasypian Future begins tommorrow...

Robert I. Eachus

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Jul 26, 1994, 7:49:06 AM7/26/94
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In article <310v0s$r...@sefl.satelnet.org> men...@satelnet.org (!Productions) writes:

> The only good thing to come from Atari Corp was the 8bit...

The Atari 8-bit computers and the original Amiga were both designed
by Jay Miner, who died recently in California. It is sad that he
never got recognition similar to that of Gene Amdahl and Seymour Cray.
The media seems so fixated on bigger is better that the designers of
supercomputers are media darlings, while the designers of low end
machines work for the most part in obscurity. (Steve Jobs and Woz
being the exceptions.)

--

Robert I. Eachus

with Standard_Disclaimer;
use Standard_Disclaimer;
function Message (Text: in Clever_Ideas) return Better_Ideas is...

Lupus Yonderboy

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Thus spake c...@netcom.com (Craig Dickson):

>|Neither can Atari and they're still around...
>
>Probably not for long, though...

They still make great full size video games. I saw the makers
of 720 playing 720 and totally kicking its ass. They were old
dudes with beards. Seems only right.

-- Alex


Jon Franklin

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>GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
>M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
>-----------------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------


Forgive me for being completely ignorant (I'm new to all this). I've seen these
GAT things on several people's .signatures. Where do you find out what they mean?
I always thought it was some crazy Unix command. ;)

So if you have one of these GAT codes, does it mean you're a geek? Or just a geek
trying to look cool? >:->

--
===============================================================================
Jon Franklin (fran...@agcs.com) ||
AG Communication Systems || This space intentionally left blank.
Phoenix, AZ ||

Gharlane of Eddore

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Jul 27, 1994, 5:10:43 PM7/27/94
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In <3162sd$9...@mouse.agcs.com> fran...@agcs.com (Jon Franklin) writes:
>>GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
>>M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
>>--------------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------
>
> Forgive me for being completely ignorant (I'm new to all this).
> I've seen these GAT things on several people's .signatures.
> Where do you find out what they mean?
> I always thought it was some crazy Unix command. ;)
>
> So if you have one of these GAT codes, does it mean you're a geek?
> Or just a geek trying to look cool? >:->
>--

"GAT" is short for "Gatling Gun," and implies that the weapon under
discussion is of high enough capacity, either by caliber or firing
rate, to insure respect. The term "Gat" came into its most common
usage during the Prohibition era, but it was already fading in
popularity at that time.

In one of the Marx Brothers comedies, one of the brothers discovers a
large pearl-handled .45 and a batch of itty-bitty small-caliber purse
guns in a drawer, and his joke line is, "This gat had gittens!"

So, whenever you see a Geek Code block beginning with "GAT," while most
folks prefer to give lip service to the concept that "GAT" stands for
"Geek of All Trades," we all know it really refers to the Libertarian
leanings of the enterer, and equates to "AIFOC," or "Armed In Front Of
Computer." (*)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
GAT d? H s--; g? !p>m !au !a w v---(!v) C++++ UL+++ UU+++ UX++
P++++ E+++ N++ K+++ W--- M-- V-- -po+ Y++ t+ 5+++ jx R- G'''' tv
b+++ D+++ B? e+++ u+++/u* h++/h* !f? r* n+++ z?
--------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------

(*) for the conceptually impaired, this is a *joke*.

Victor Brueggemann

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Jul 28, 1994, 4:15:57 AM7/28/94
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In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:

They'd have gone TU without the Amiga, too. Buying the rights to make a
decent computer system merely delayed the inevitable. Too bad the
executives (executioners?) who rode the company into the ground aren't
liable for the damage they've done -- I'd love to see Gould and/or Ali get
hit with a multi-million dollar judgement down in the Bahamas for their
spectacular display of incompetance.

--

GN6...@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu

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Jul 28, 1994, 8:45:41 AM7/28/94
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In article <Ctn5M...@iat.holonet.net>

vict...@zen.holonet.net (Victor Brueggemann) writes:

>In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
>>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:

Just one question...

Why the hell is this stoopid computer stuff always being posted here?

Bill Evans

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Jul 28, 1994, 1:41:16 PM7/28/94
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In article <170017B37...@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU> on Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:45:41 EDT,
GN6...@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU made the following noteworthy contribution
to the highly esteemed collected works of rec.humor:
: Just one question...

: Why the hell is this stoopid computer stuff always being posted here?

I have another question...

Why is the sky blue?

-- Captain Nitpick

Owen Lynn

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Jul 28, 1994, 9:44:53 PM7/28/94
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In article <170017B37...@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>,

<GN6...@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU> wrote:
>In article <Ctn5M...@iat.holonet.net>
>vict...@zen.holonet.net (Victor Brueggemann) writes:
>
>>In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
>>>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>Just one question...
>
>Why the hell is this stoopid computer stuff always being posted here?

Yeah, and why is Majel Barret doing the computer voice for Babylon 5 now?

--
Owen fnord Lynn +---------------+ I think you hear me knocking Bill, and I'm
ly...@magneto.physics.auburn.edu | coming in with Lee Reiswig, David Barnes,
lyn...@eng.auburn.edu +--------+ John Soyring and a copy of OS/2, and we're
Finger for PGP23a Key | going to play Neko the Cat until you release Chicago.

Gharlane of Eddore

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Jul 29, 1994, 3:26:10 AM7/29/94
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In <CtoI6...@mail.auburn.edu> ly...@magneto.physics.auburn.edu

(Owen Lynn) writes:
>
> Yeah, and why is Majel Barret doing the computer voice for Babylon 5 now?
>
>--

She's not. The computer voice on "BABYLON 5" is Robert "Bobcat" Goldthwaite,
computer-processed by Ron Thornton's staff......

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
GAT 5+++ !a !au b+++ d? e+++ !f? g? h++/h* jx n+++ -po+ !p>m r* s--;
t+ tv u+++/u* v---(!v) w z? B? D+++ C++++ E+++ G'''' H K+++ M-- N++
P++++ R- UL+++ UU+++ UX++ V-- W--- Y++
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

!Productions

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Jul 28, 1994, 1:20:59 PM7/28/94
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>>In article <30qkcj$2...@narnia.ccs.neu.edu> mi...@ccs.neu.edu (P. Timmins) writes:
>>>Michael McGovern (drag...@netcom.com) wrote:
>
>Just one question...
>
>Why the hell is this stoopid computer stuff always being posted here?

One question for you : where is here?

Just look at it this way - without the people who are interested in this
stoopid stuff, you wouldn't be able to even read the stoopid stuff, let
alone complain about it afterwards. Stoopid is relative. (Like my
uncle, for example - he's very stupid...) :)

Lupus Yonderboy

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Jul 28, 1994, 2:38:54 PM7/28/94
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Thus spake GN6...@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU:
>Just one question...

OK, but make it snappy. I've got to get over to alt.society.neutopia
to do some serious newsreading.

>Why the hell is this stoopid computer stuff always being posted here?

Easy: You are using a computer AS WE SPEAK. These computer messages
are therefore appropriate. In fact, computers are the one subject
that is appropriate to EVERY newsgroup. Yes, even alt.fan.lemurs.
Hell, ESPECIALLY alt.fan.lemurs.

Other newsgroups it is appropriate too are:

alt.food.dennys
alt.food.sugar-cereals
alt.bonehead.tom-servo

and of course

alt.cuddle

-- Yonderboy

Simon Slavin

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Jul 29, 1994, 9:43:36 AM7/29/94
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In article 3...@pairgain.com, eva...@pairgain.com (Bill Evans) writes:
>Why is the sky blue?

Cosmic Strings. /Everything's/ to do with Cosmic Strings.

Ob a.f.c: Ask Cliff Stoll, (see _The Cuckoo's Egg_).

Simon.
---
< "The natives showed considerable low cunning in using the brute force at >
< their disposal." - Christopher Anvil sla...@psy.man.ac.uk >

Nuwanda

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Jul 28, 1994, 7:44:58 AM7/28/94
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In article <3162sd$9...@mouse.agcs.com> fran...@agcs.com (Jon Franklin) writes:
>>GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
>>M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
>>-----------------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------

>
>
>Forgive me for being completely ignorant (I'm new to all this). I've seen these
>GAT things on several people's .signatures. Where do you find out what they mean?
>I always thought it was some crazy Unix command. ;)
>
>So if you have one of these GAT codes, does it mean you're a geek? Or just a geek
>trying to look cool? >:->
>
Poor me. I only have a GE code. Sorry Jon, I can't tell you what a GAT code is
then..8-)..On the way to the store to get my PowerPC.

Erik A Moortgat
GATB, Believer

GE d++@ p c++ l u+ e++ m--- s/- n+ h+(*) f?(*) g+/- w+ t+ r(+) !y

Adalbert the peasant

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Jul 29, 1994, 4:46:43 PM7/29/94
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c...@netcom.com (Craig Dickson) dicit:

>Erik A Moortgat writes:
>
>|Poor me. I only have a GE code.
>
>I've seen so damn many .sigs with GAT codes lately that I'm starting to
>believe it really means "Geek of Arrogant Tendencies"... or perhaps

It IS kinda over-common, isn't it? I wonder how many of those people are
just avoiding the "undecided" category...

>"Geek of Asinine Thoughts"...

You misspelled Assiduous. Hope that helps.
--
Robbie Westmoreland, Dilettante | follower of kukido | rob...@inviso.com
v2.1 GG$/SS-d+(++)H-sg+p?aua-w+v++(---)C++$UV/L+>+++P?>++L>+++3(-)EN++(+++)
K++W$M!V-po+Y+(++)t-!5j(++)r++>+++Gtv+b++!DB-e++>++++u+@hf+rn-(---)y+
Why yes, I speak for the entire U.S. government. Why do you ask?

Sean Berry

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Jul 29, 1994, 12:20:14 PM7/29/94
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In <1994Jul28.1...@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> Nuwanda writes:

>In article <3162sd$9...@mouse.agcs.com> fran...@agcs.com (Jon Franklin) writes:
>>>GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
>>>M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
>>

>>So if you have one of these GAT codes, does it mean you're a geek? Or just a geek
>>trying to look cool? >:->

Geek of All Trades
--
--
<http://www.public.iastate.edu/~spberry/homepage.html>
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
"It's like those magnets you used to play with when you were a kid.
You push them around, one repelling the other, pushing each other,
until you flip one of them over..."

m.b.komor

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Jul 30, 1994, 1:38:34 AM7/30/94
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In article <spberry....@eng1.iastate.edu>,

Sean Berry <spb...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>In <1994Jul28.1...@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> Nuwanda writes:
>
>>In article <3162sd$9...@mouse.agcs.com> fran...@agcs.com (Jon Franklin) writes:
>>>>GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au>au0 a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W
[deleted]

>>>So if you have one of these GAT codes, does it mean you're a geek? Or just a geek
>>>trying to look cool? >:->
>
>Geek of All Trades

A friend of mine made the mistake of asking me what the Geek Code was,
when i mentioned it in conversation on icb, so i sent him a copy. He
then sent me the following in response, and when i asked if i could
post it, said: (excerpt follows)

Sure, if you want. :)


> Actually, BarneyDOOM! is a really great concept: has anyone done it yet? :D

Yes... Actually, it's not very well done, but the idea is there. :)
The barneyDOOM! patch replaces the Barons of Hell with barneys... I
think it'd work better with the pink demons.


I noticed a conspicuous area of omission, which I'm about to mail
off a patch for...... let me just paste it in here. (Revised geek code
with the new suggested "patches":

GAT>J$ d@ H- s:- !g p1+ au+ a? w+ v++ C+(++)>++++ UL++++ P+ L++ 3 E- N++
K+++ W++ M-- V---po+ Y+ t++(--) 5+++ !j G' tv b+++ D+++ B--- BD e++(-)
u+(-)* h+() f? r-* n+ y+ ma+ k+++ F4++ X

A suggested extension to the DOOM! and Barney categories: The crossover
code BD, meaning "BarneyDOOM! is the last hope for civilisation as we
know it."

<g>

Also, you forgot to include a Weapons (or maybe Destructive Devices)
category. This might perhaps be implemented as follows:


*****************************************************************************

House Weapons

1. Martial Arts weapons/training

ma+++ I'm Bruce Lee; I could arm and equip a small Shaolin temple.
ma++ I'm a black belt; I break concrete blocks; I have a few toys around.
ma+ I'm an upper belt; I break boards; I have a set of nunchaku.
ma I enrolled in Kung Fu 4 Everyone last week.
ma- I watch a lot of Chuck Norris movies.
ma-- I broke my hand once trying to break boards.
ma--- Don't hurt me, Mommy took my Nerf Nunchaku away.

!ma I've never tried martial arts, and probably never will.
ma? What are martial arts?
ma?? Marshal Arts? Is he the one who shot Billy the Kid?


*****************************************************************************

2. Knives and other bladed weapons

k+++ My name is Connor MacLeod....
k++ I own a couple of really nice knives and a sword or two.
k+ I bought this really cool Conan sword at Worldcon!
k I own a Swiss Army knife.
k- I own a kitchen knife.
k-- I own a letter opener.
k--- I cut myself on letter openers.

!k I used to own a kitchen knife, but it rusted away.

*****************************************************************************

3. Firearms

F+++ The National Guard comes to me when they run low on ammo.
F++ I collect guns, shoot them regularly, and load my own ammo.
F+ I own a gun, and shoot it a couple of times a year.
F I own a BB-gun.
F- I own a Super Soaker 5.
F-- Oh, yuck. Guns are *icky*....
F--- You own a gun? Help!!! Police!!! There's a maniac in here!!!

!F I don't own a gun, but it's a personal choice.
!!F I don't like guns, so you shouldn't be allowed to have one either.
F? I don't know one end of a gun from the other.
F?? What's a gun?

Optional skill modifiers:

F5 I can shoot the eye out of a gopher at 500 yards, blindfolded.
F4 I usually keep everything in the 10-ring.
F3 I usually keep everything in the black.
F2 I can hit the target.
F1 I can hit the broad side of a barn if I stand close enough.
F0 I'm more danger to people behind me than I am to the target.

(If your code is F+++?0, please advise what state you're living in so
that other geeks in your state have forewarning to move elsewhere.)

*****************************************************************************

4. High Explosives

X+++ I have a Thermonuclear Weapons rider on my Destructive Devices
permit.
X++ I mix plastique in my blender; my car has a concealed flamethrower.
X+ I make my own Class D pyrotechnics.
X I have a can of Thrust somewhere.
X- I buy firecrackers for July 4.
X-- I burned my fingers with a firecracker once.

!X I don't like loud noises.
X? What are explosives?

*****************************************************************************

A "well-regulated militia" begins with knowing how your weapon works;
how to take it apart and put it back together quickly; how to clean and
maintain it; how to hit your target; and, most importantly, when to use
it, and when not. Get your ass to the range and start practicing.

===== Finger ala...@netcom.com for PGP public key and key fingerprint =====

What i want to know is, where is the *special* classification for entertainment
field SPFX geeks (y'know, the "I blow things up pretty good" classification)?

Best,

-Meriday Beth

mbk...@remarque.berkeley.edu | @wiretap.spies.com & gn...@toys.fubarsys.com
ind...@samsara.circus.com & u...@deeptht.armory.com

Craig Dickson

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Erik A Moortgat writes:

|Poor me. I only have a GE code. Sorry Jon, I can't tell you what a GAT code is
|then..8-)..On the way to the store to get my PowerPC.

I've seen so damn many .sigs with GAT codes lately that I'm starting to


believe it really means "Geek of Arrogant Tendencies"... or perhaps

"Geek of Asinine Thoughts"...

--
Craig Dickson % "Hey! I'm not *supposed* to be in anybody's sig." -Paul Tomblin

m.b.komor

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Jul 30, 1994, 8:41:08 AM7/30/94
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In article <31csc1$o...@news.csus.edu>,
Gharlane of Eddore <ghar...@nextnet.csus.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>


I would like to *personally* congratulate Gharlane on his most *lucid*,
nay, most _transluscent_ comment ever! His clarity of expression is
exceeded in its tastefulness perhaps *only* by its brevity. This wit
and wisdom should stand *forever* as a lesson, and an example, to us all. :)

(You'll notice, he even forgot to set the Reply-to: line to /nev/dull ;) )

*Best,*

Eli Whitney Museum

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Jul 30, 1994, 1:20:12 PM7/30/94
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A lot of you say you start hacking about 10:00 and stop at 4 or 5. I hack
from after dinner (7 or 8) until 2 in the morning, then sleep until
someone wakes me up (somwhere between 9 and 12). Why? As mentioned
earlier, there are *so* many distractions during the day. I usually stop
hacking when my eyes get so blurry that I can't read teh screen anymore :)

My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens
e...@revco.med.yale.edu hs...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
ai...@FreeNet.Carleton.ca ai...@FreeNet.Buffalo.edu
MacR...@aol.com <-Last Resorts-> Matth...@aol.com

Antony Richfield

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Jul 31, 1994, 4:52:54 PM7/31/94
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Adalbert the peasant (rob...@inviso.com) wrote:
: c...@netcom.com (Craig Dickson) dicit:


How nice of you people to say these things! Happy, happy! But might I
say that I chose that option since I fit into at least five of the
normal other groupings, and chose spac4e economy ...

Oh, well, you probably don't believe me anyway :)

--
Antony Richfield at the University of Stellenbosch, South Africa
GAT d? H s+:- g+ p?+ !au a22 w+++ v?*(+) C+ U? P? L 3- E--- N++ K+(---) !W


M- !V -po+ Y+ t !5 !j R++ G? !tv b++ D+ B? e+(*)>++++ u** h*(-) f--@ r-- !n !y
-----------------------------------GEEK CODE 2.1-------------------------------

Oh give me a weekend, give me a day.
I don't like what I'm seeing though I hear what you say.
Think with your dagger and you'll die on your knees,
Begging for mercy, singing: "Please, mister, please."
Chris Rea - Auberge

Gharlane of Eddore

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Jul 31, 1994, 11:10:14 PM7/31/94
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In <1994Jul30.1...@utopia.druid.com> dj...@utopia.druid.com
(Dan Astoorian) writes:

> In <Ctnvs...@pairgain.com> eva...@pairgain.com (Bill Evans) writes:
> > I have another question...
> >
> > Why is the sky blue?
>
> Because if it were green we wouldn't know where to stop mowing.
.......

Answers like this betray a fundamental preoccupation with yuppie/suburban
concerns.

The *REAL* reason the sky isn't green is so that those of us who climb
trees for fun & edification know when to stop climbing.


Craig Dickson

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Aug 1, 1994, 12:25:33 AM8/1/94
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Antony Richfield writes:

|How nice of you people to say these things! Happy, happy! But might I
|say that I chose that option since I fit into at least five of the
|normal other groupings, and chose spac4e economy ...

I fit several categories too, but I simply chose the ones that have to
do with my professional life. I didn't see much point in adding all my
avocations to the list.

|Oh, well, you probably don't believe me anyway :)

I couldn't possibly care less.


--
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Antony Richfield

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Aug 2, 1994, 7:25:29 AM8/2/94
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Craig Dickson (c...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Antony Richfield writes:

: |How nice of you people to say these things! Happy, happy! But might I
: |say that I chose that option since I fit into at least five of the
: |normal other groupings, and chose spac4e economy ...

: I fit several categories too, but I simply chose the ones that have to
: do with my professional life. I didn't see much point in adding all my
: avocations to the list.

I wish I had an easy form of decision like that; I am an unemployable
(medical reasons) student, with no source of personal income. I do
what I can to advance myself in the hopes that I might get something
done one day.

Stephen McNeil

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Aug 2, 1994, 7:10:10 PM8/2/94
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In article <Ctnvs...@pairgain.com> eva...@pairgain.com (Bill Evans) writes:

>I have another question...

>Why is the sky blue?

>-- Captain Nitpick

Refraction of incident sunlight.
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Stephen McNeil
UBC Chemistry Dept
mcn...@chem.ubc.ca

Eric Penn

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Aug 2, 1994, 9:00:38 PM8/2/94
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!Productions (men...@satelnet.org) wrote:
: alone complain about it afterwards. Stoopid is relative. (Like my
: uncle, for example - he's very stupid...) :)

eh?
--
-Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life:
stu...@genie.geis.com 1> Stick with what you're good at,
2> Learn from your mistakes,
3> When in doubt, act stupid!

Craig Dickson

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Aug 3, 1994, 3:12:16 AM8/3/94
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Stephen McNeil writes:

|In article <Ctnvs...@pairgain.com> eva...@pairgain.com (Bill Evans) writes:
|
|>I have another question...
|
|>Why is the sky blue?
|
|>-- Captain Nitpick
|
| Refraction of incident sunlight.
| Sorry, couldn't resist.

HA! You can't fool me that easily! It's obvious why the sky is blue:
that's the color of the metal sphere enclosing the earth. At night, it
gets dark because the sun turns off; the moon isn't bright enough to
light up the whole sky by itself. DUH!

Bob Cook

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Aug 4, 1994, 12:13:21 PM8/4/94
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Yes, the Dark release date seems to be solidly August 8th, when they
ship from distributors.

All who ordered from us by mail order are having their cards shipped
out that day and most should have them on Tuesday.

We've also compiled a list of all 119 cards and will be including that
with each order.

You can still order Fallen Empires from us at 15% off during August, we
extended the sale price.

Write me for a copy of our newsletter if you haven't seen one lately.

--Bob

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