ALT.PEDOPHILIA.SWAPS and Neal Feldman of Salem, Oregon?

Cardman2001

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:52:13 AM12/28/01

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On 12/25/2001, someone whose dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy
have been mercifully snipped here wrote in alt.parenting.spanking..

<..............>

This post is not off-topic for any of the groups into which I put it.
When you check out the links you will understand.

I have had reason to check the google archive, where my kill-filter
doesn't work. A most unpleasant name popped up. Worse still, a post to
something called "ALT.PEDOPHILIA.SWAPS" has been traced back to the
@Home.net account operated from 4732 Swegle Rd NE, Salem, OR 97301-3108
an address I know only too well. The person blamed made all sorts of
excuses that he was innocent. But that person always makes all sorts of
excuses that he is innocent. From the evidence I saw, he did the post.
To be perfectly candid, I am not at all surprised.

I would be curious to know whether anyone at that address has ever been
in any trouble with the Child Protective Services? Had their kids taken
away from them, like? Or was it just another alleged false accusation
for which the perp has lots of excuses and explanations?

The Salem neighbors are as yet unaware of any CPS history, I read. The
relevance of any information to them is obvious. Will some good little
Samaritan step forth? Or, isn't there anything to tell?

You might get a picture of how somone who lives at 4732 Swegle Rd NE,
Salem, OR 97301-3108 conducts his/her business if you were to click on:

Nancy - she did the smart thing. You go, girl.

A survey was carried out once in Salem. "Of all the people you know of
in these parts, who would you trust least with a child."

There was a clear winner.

Cardman2001
(Just Play It Again, Som)

I have sent a copy of this in Email to the following web sites:

http://www.avoiceforchildren.com/
http://members.tripod.com/VOOM/index.htm
http://home.rica.net/rthoma/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/2667/
http://www.nationaloutrage.org/
http://www.childprotectionreform.org/
http://www.join-hands.com/
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme/law/index.html
http://www.nasvo.org/
http://www.msbp.com/
http://www.clearpix.com/dcyf/
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/grenada/776/index.htm
http://www.mainstream.net/dcyf/
http://www.the-facts.com/
http://www.cpswatch.com/
http://members.tripod.com/~LiberalMinded/index.html

Cardman2001

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Dec 28, 2001, 2:09:30 AM12/28/01

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Neal Feldman

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:57:47 PM12/28/01

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Cardman2001 wrote:

> On 12/25/2001, someone whose dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy
> have been mercifully snipped here wrote in alt.parenting.spanking..
>
> <..............>
>
> This post is not off-topic for any of the groups into which I put it.
> When you check out the links you will understand.

Actually it is... and this is the same type of ignorant idiotic tripe that
MoRon Mitty attempted some time ago.

Whether this is MoRon Mitty, or more likely Delusional Dan the obsessive
delusional, dishonest, ignorant and idiotic net.kook (since this tends to
follow his own pet ravings more than those of MoRon Mitty) or yet some
other idiotic poltroon without the honesty to post under his own name
remains to be seen.

I do not think it is the fratricidal maniac Tallyman or his ludicrous
sidekick Prominent Bethelite since at the end of the post there was no
obsessed screed about Jehovah's Witnesses.

Ran on, fools... you only continue to prove yourself fools and how
completely obsessed you truly are.

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Home Page: http://home.attbi.com/~silverstorm/

We will never rest until Gestapo CPS is completely abolished!

Neal Feldman

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Dec 28, 2001, 2:00:27 PM12/28/01

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Cardman2001 wrote:

> On 12/25/2001, someone whose dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy
> have been mercifully snipped here wrote in alt.parenting.spanking..
>
> <..............>
>
> This post is not off-topic for any of the groups into which I put it.
> When you check out the links you will understand.

Actually it is... and this is the same type of ignorant idiotic tripe that

Ric Werme

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Dec 28, 2001, 8:35:08 PM12/28/01

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Cardman2001 <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:

>On 12/25/2001, someone whose dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy
>have been mercifully snipped here wrote in alt.parenting.spanking..

><..............>

>I have had reason to check the google archive, where my kill-filter

>doesn't work. A most unpleasant name popped up. Worse still, a post to

>Cardman2001

>(Just Play It Again, Som)

At least Neal uses his real name. Why do you hide?

>I have sent a copy of this in Email to the following web sites:

>http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme/law/index.html

And exactly how have you managed to do that? There are no CGI or Front Page
scripts referenced by that page. While there is an Email address, other
pages you reference do not even have that. Paula says she hasn't received
any Email.

If I were you, I'd keep using an alias, you don't want your poor credibility
attached to your real name.

-Ric Werme
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"When we allow fundamental freedoms to be sacrificed in the name of real or
perceived emergency, we invariably regret it. -- Thurgood Marshall
Ric Werme | we...@nospam.mediaone.net
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme | ^^^^^^^ delete

Neal Feldman

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Dec 29, 2001, 4:20:04 AM12/29/01

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Ric Werme wrote:

> Cardman2001 <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:
>
> >On 12/25/2001, someone whose dishonesty, delusion and braying idiocy
> >have been mercifully snipped here wrote in alt.parenting.spanking..
>
> ><..............>
>
> >I have had reason to check the google archive, where my kill-filter
> >doesn't work. A most unpleasant name popped up. Worse still, a post to
>
> >Cardman2001
> >(Just Play It Again, Som)
>
> At least Neal uses his real name. Why do you hide?

Because that is what lying net.kook trolls do.

> >I have sent a copy of this in Email to the following web sites:
>
> >http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme/law/index.html
>
> And exactly how have you managed to do that? There are no CGI or Front Page
> scripts referenced by that page.

ROTFLU!

So in fact this clown is LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH... since he clearly did not do
as he stated.

Typical.

> While there is an Email address, other
> pages you reference do not even have that. Paula says she hasn't received
> any Email.

Thank you Ric for this confirmation of the impotent dishonesty of this clown.

> If I were you, I'd keep using an alias, you don't want your poor credibility
> attached to your real name.

Likely it already is... likely it is Delusional Dan or MoRon Mitty under another
assumed pseudonym. We know MoRon Mitty has changed several times.

I begin to suspect that all these folks who Delusional Dan claims to have
received emails from are in fact just himself using fictitious email addresses
to email to himself.

He really does come across as that pathetically obsessed, delusional and
dishonest to practice such levels of deceit.

Ric Werme

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Dec 29, 2001, 1:49:58 PM12/29/01

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Cardman2001 <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@127.1> writes:

><..............>

So, um tell me why you sent this message (with some edits at top and bottom)
to me six times via apparently different anonymous remailers. Heck, it's not
even a reply to my post. You're not doing a very good job at establishing
credibility, and you've lost any sympathy I might have had for you and your
case.

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From: Cardman2001 <fost...@nospam.net>

BTW, your Email notes:
> If you wish to reply, please do so in the newsgroup. Because of
> unpredictable delays with anonymized relays, my response may take
> between one hour and one week to be received.

Seems like pretty short delays to me (how many more can I expect?) I
imagine the feds could match your message to the remailers and relays
to me and figure out the source pretty easily. You might want to
reconsider how you use remailers. I'll be asking them myself and might
pass on any interesting information.

Neal Feldman

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Dec 31, 2001, 4:49:47 PM12/31/01

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Ric Werme wrote:

> Cardman2001 <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@127.1> writes:
>
> ><..............>
>
> So, um tell me why you sent this message (with some edits at top and bottom)
> to me six times via apparently different anonymous remailers. Heck, it's not
> even a reply to my post. You're not doing a very good job at establishing
> credibility, and you've lost any sympathy I might have had for you and your
> case.

LOL!

Why does anyone use anonymous remailers if they have nothing to hide?

Clearly they don't.

Anyone using anonymous remailers clearly has zero credibility for themselves and their positions to begin with.

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