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Graphics quality improvements going form GF2 GTS 32MB to GF4 Ti4400 128MB

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Keep It Free

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Jan 21, 2003, 9:40:07 PM1/21/03
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I thinking of upgrading from my current GF2 GTS 32MB video to GF4 Ti4400.
However, most of my current games (Tribes 2, MOHAA, UT2003) seem to run OK
with the graphics settings brought down a notch or two. Of coursem when
their at max the framerates drop down a bit but it looks better. Question
is, with both cards set at the highest video settings will the GF4 Ti400
actually look better than the GF2 (I know it will run faster), but will the
visually quality be noticeably better? All comments welcome.

Thanks in advance.


F r e e

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Jan 21, 2003, 7:20:06 PM1/21/03
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yes of course in Doom 3 }}}:-)

ah, i erased some of the nonsense crosspissing :-)
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Jon

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Jan 21, 2003, 8:03:12 PM1/21/03
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yea... you'll be able to run ut and tribes2 (which i must get back into) at
high settings. and still have a nice smooth screen.. of course a decent chip
helps but im still running a 1GHz amd and not having any magor problems...
except lagg. with the top notch selected you should notice things like
smoke being buch more nicer.. even in CS the change in graphics wasn't all
that noticible when i went from TNT2 to G3 Ti-200 but the smoke effects made
up for it.
If moneys not an option then i'd recomend waiting for one of the newer cards
to come out on the nvidiaFX chipset. With tribes 2 im supprised you could
get it to even run with settings maxed.. i sure couldnt, unless i ran it in
d3d mode. actually i think i still do as its faster. and the levels on that
are so speed dependable.... my mate sent me something in a e-mail about a
simular spec Gforce 4 Ti400 128MB etc... on dabs for about Ł120 tho that
incs vat and delivery. (i use dabs all the time for price and reliability)
though you may have your own preferences..

Summing it up : Graphics will look a bit nicer in propper games, like ut03
but mods like cs will look the same in parts and may have nicer effects if
maxed out (eg smoke).. the key feature is the speed that it puts the image
out.. the higher the res the slower.. I run all games on 1024x768 even when
i had a tnt2 and i noticed a definate improvement on speed but take into
consideration lag if your playing online and things get a bit choppie.. its
probably not your card
on another positive note games should launch a bit quicker for you./ ;)

#Fade

On a negative point though you best be prepaired to re-install windows as it
sometimes has wobblies over new hardware on old installs.. and if ur using
xp remember you'll have all the shite about hardware changing serials and
need another m$ win key number milarkie.

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Alan Wright

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Jan 22, 2003, 12:35:21 PM1/22/03
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"Keep It Free" <sara...@speedfactory.net> wrote in message news:j_ecnWcvXpw...@speedfactory.net...

You may be able to use features on the new card this you could
not on the old one (anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering).

The games will look better, and yet play faster.

Alan


steven

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Feb 20, 2003, 9:56:46 AM2/20/03
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"Keep It Free" <sara...@speedfactory.net> wrote in message news:<j_ecnWcvXpw...@speedfactory.net>...

hiya the gf4 is a better buy m8 the quality is better and evrything
about it,i have seen the gf4 working and i believe that it has quality
graphics.it will make ur computer run faster it will be more efficiant

John

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:48:52 PM2/21/03
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snoop_4_...@hotmail.com (steven) wrote in message news:<33ab9b44.03022...@posting.google.com>...

> "Keep It Free" <sara...@speedfactory.net> wrote in message news:<j_ecnWcvXpw...@speedfactory.net>...
> > I thinking of upgrading from my current GF2 GTS 32MB video to GF4 Ti4400.
> > However, most of my current games (Tribes 2, MOHAA, UT2003) seem to run OK
> > with the graphics settings brought down a notch or two. Of coursem when
> > their at max the framerates drop down a bit but it looks better. Question
> > is, with both cards set at the highest video settings will the GF4 Ti400
> > actually look better than the GF2 (I know it will run faster), but will the
> > visually quality be noticeably better? All comments welcome.

Yeah, I've got a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 and love it. There are certain
effects (like rippling, reflective water) that it can do which a
GeForce 2 can't. It has to do with pixel-shaders and such. Basically,
a GeForce 2 isn't fully DirectX 8.1 compatible, whereas a GeForce 4 Ti
is.

I think a recent post here gave some info from the designer of
Splinter Cell. He said that game has a whole separate graphics engine
for GeForce 4s to take advantage of what it can do. There's another,
simpler engine for the GeForce 2 which doesn't provide as much eye
candy.

And then there's the speed factor. I had a GeForce 2 previously, and I
remember playing Medal of Honor with it. Things were going along okay
until I got to a dense forest sequence. The graphics pretty much
brought my machine to a grinding halt. I had to drop down to 640x480,
lower all details to minimum, and I *still* had laggy framerates. No
fun, and it didn't look pretty either.

On my GeForce 4, that same sequence is now smooth as butter.

Same thing happened in Jedi Knight II Outcast -- when using volumetric
shadows on my GeForce 2, gameplay was very slow. I think it was
computing the shadows using software (as opposed to hardware support).
When I tried it on my GeForce 4, it screamed!

You could wait for the next generation of Nvidia processors (Directx 9
compatible), but they'll be expensive and no games will use Directx 9
features in a big way for awhile. Besides, if you browse Nvidia
forums, you'll see a lot of disappointment with the brand new GeForce
FX. Nobody's impressed considering how expensive it is.

So I say go with something cheaper that you can use right now -- then,
when all the games are using DirectX 9, those cards will come down in
price. Basically, I see no reason to be on the absolute bleeding edge
of 3D graphics cards. When the GeForce 4 first came out, it was
something like $300 and few games needed it. Well I just got mine for
Christmas at $165 and only now are games actually using it (Unreal 2,
for example).

I say go for it.

michael

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Feb 24, 2003, 11:16:22 PM2/24/03
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games are good

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