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Is there any programm like uo aouto loop?

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Shannon Knight

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Nov 12, 2001, 1:41:15 AM11/12/01
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Actually i wanted to know if there is any other programm out there but uoal?
(Better i want one i can use for free.) =)


Michael Vondung

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Nov 12, 2001, 2:14:30 AM11/12/01
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I'm not sure what program you are referring to. "UOA Loop" was a
freeware tool that was developed by Learned Mage after the loop
function was taken out of "UO Assist" (necessary to get OSI's
approval). "UOA Loop" is not approved and just like "UO Loop" now
bannable (per GM Canyon on the MyUO boards a few months ago). It
wasn't originally bannable, as far as I know.

If you meant a program like "UO Assist" ... no, there are no other
tools nearly as good as that one. And none that are approved by OSI.
It's really worth the $15 it costs. :)

Ciro

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Shannon Knight

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Nov 12, 2001, 2:18:41 AM11/12/01
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Nope i definitly mean uo auto loop. There is one out there named uo assist
auto loop. Works fine but costs.Since i have no credit card, (and frankly i
don't want to buy it) i'mlooking for a free version. IT's just that making
lockpicks is soooooooooo boring.
But we have all the same problem haven't we?


Rick Cortese

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Nov 12, 2001, 3:09:06 AM11/12/01
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"Shannon Knight" <shannon....@gmx.at> wrote in message
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Understand that this is exactly and precisely what the percieved problem and
solutions are.

Explaining a bit: That you find making lockpicks in the absence of a macro
program boring is exactly the result OSI wants to achieve.

You will spend less time on line and thus consume less bandwidth and
resources. The prices, raw materials, and sales, for people that think it is
cool as is will relatively proper. Others such as Darius on Baja who have
been doing the warrior/tinker thing for the last 4 years w/o macroing will
continue on. They will neither spend more time using the trade or less while
reaping the benefits of a smaller production from macroers and decreased
competition for resources.

At some time in the future, OSI may decide there aren't enough tinkers or
cheap lockpicks and adjust things appropriately. In the meantime, they have
made people that want to do it for the sake of doing it happy while
convincing people such as yourself that don't really want to do it, to not
bother. Saves bandwidth which saves money which is where OSI lives. Darius
will be happier about something that he cares a lot about while you will
move on to something you find more interesting.

Ever watch a professional baseball game? Ever notice how managers will argue
every call but balls and strikes? That is because it actually defined that
way. A ball or a strike can not be contested unless you want to be thrown
out of the game.

Likewise decisions like macroing or tinkering are an OSI call. Macroing made
it hard for them to make calls, manage their game and bandwidth properly.
They want you to quit tinkering and Darius to continue, saves bandwidth. If
they decide Darius isn't enough tinker to support the shard in the manner
they want, they will make skill gain or profit such that you will find it an
interesting alternative and less boring. You or someone else, doesn't really
matter to them.

Da-K

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Nov 12, 2001, 5:37:56 AM11/12/01
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Shannon Knight wrote:

> Actually i wanted to know if there is any other programm out there but uoal?
> (Better i want one i can use for free.) =)

I use to use UOforEver. This tools can loop for ever, or for a decided count,
the first macro of UOassist.....

Rick McGreal

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Nov 12, 2001, 5:57:40 AM11/12/01
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Da-K <d...@free.fr> wrote in message news:3BEFA684...@free.fr...

UO Autopilot....
It cant do all the little tweaks...But it will do a macro set for you

no_spam Mike

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Nov 12, 2001, 6:18:09 AM11/12/01
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:14:30 GMT, cir...@furcadia.com (Michael
Vondung) wrote:

>I'm not sure what program you are referring to. "UOA Loop" was a
>freeware tool that was developed by Learned Mage after the loop
>function was taken out of "UO Assist" (necessary to get OSI's
>approval). "UOA Loop" is not approved and just like "UO Loop" now
>bannable (per GM Canyon on the MyUO boards a few months ago). It
>wasn't originally bannable, as far as I know.

No it wasnt banable before, and if you want to know the real irony
behind this. My copy of UO Loop was gotten from OSI's own web page.

Myrex

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Nov 12, 2001, 6:28:25 AM11/12/01
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Mike woke up on Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:18:09 GMT and sat in
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Became so with a change of policy on macroing unattended. Any non-uo pro
software it technically bannable, but much of it is not detectable. It
would theoretically be ok to use a looping program so long as you are sat
there doing it and don't leave it macroing whilst you go to work.

I don't ever remember UO loop being listed on uo.com, ever.

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Shannon Knight

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Nov 12, 2001, 7:10:23 AM11/12/01
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> I use to use UOforEver. This tools can loop for ever, or for a decided
count,
> the first macro of UOassist.....
>
Can you mail it to me? Or do you´have a url where i can get it?
Would be nice.


Baphomet

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Nov 12, 2001, 10:00:12 AM11/12/01
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Right .. I remember this one .. it was just a lil program that sent a
keyboard combination to UO every set interval. So basically you'd make a
macro in UO, assign that macro to the H key or to CTRL-H or something, then
have this loop proggie send CTRL-H to UO every 2000ms or so.
Basically it was a way for the computer to simulate jamming something in the
keyboard to hold a key down =)

Baph

...I might still have this somewhere, I dunno

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Myrex

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Nov 12, 2001, 10:06:31 AM11/12/01
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Baphomet woke up on Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:00:12 GMT and sat in
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> Right .. I remember this one .. it was just a lil program that sent a
> keyboard combination to UO every set interval. So basically you'd make
> a macro in UO, assign that macro to the H key or to CTRL-H or
> something, then have this loop proggie send CTRL-H to UO every 2000ms
> or so. Basically it was a way for the computer to simulate jamming
> something in the keyboard to hold a key down =)
>
> Baph
>
> ...I might still have this somewhere, I dunno

UOALoop actually sends the lastmacro command directly into UOA through its
programming API - rather than interacting with UO directly. My program
listens to this to alert you when your macro finishes, though it doesnt
start it as I wanted UOC to be UOpro :(

Drake

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:18:45 PM11/12/01
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"Myrex" <My...@myrex.co.uk> wrote in message
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Me either, not in 4 years. Someone is full of bs.

UOLoop packaged with UOExtreme. Period.


Brent

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Nov 13, 2001, 7:38:28 AM11/13/01
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Rick Cortese wrote:

> Explaining a bit: That you find making lockpicks in the absence of a macro
> program boring is exactly the result OSI wants to achieve.
>
> You will spend less time on line and thus consume less bandwidth and
> resources. The prices, raw materials, and sales, for people that think it is
> cool as is will relatively proper. Others such as Darius on Baja who have
> been doing the warrior/tinker thing for the last 4 years w/o macroing will
> continue on. They will neither spend more time using the trade or less while
> reaping the benefits of a smaller production from macroers and decreased
> competition for resources.


*Applauds Rick's attempt to teach macro economics to the masses*

Way to go, Rick. I think it will be a constant struggle for OSI to do
what works for the economy while keeping the interest of a group that
probably can't spell it.

Brent

Baphomet

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Nov 13, 2001, 9:10:19 AM11/13/01
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"Myrex" <My...@myrex.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Baphomet woke up on Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:00:12 GMT and sat in
> rec.games.computer.ultima.online writing in message
> news:3befe361$0$61114$45be...@newscene.com
>
> > Right .. I remember this one .. it was just a lil program that sent a
> > keyboard combination to UO every set interval. So basically you'd make
> > a macro in UO, assign that macro to the H key or to CTRL-H or
> > something, then have this loop proggie send CTRL-H to UO every 2000ms
> > or so. Basically it was a way for the computer to simulate jamming
> > something in the keyboard to hold a key down =)
> >
> > Baph
> >
> > ...I might still have this somewhere, I dunno
>
> UOALoop actually sends the lastmacro command directly into UOA through its
> programming API - rather than interacting with UO directly. My program
> listens to this to alert you when your macro finishes, though it doesnt
> start it as I wanted UOC to be UOpro :(
>

Maybe I'm thinking of a different proggie then .. the one I'm thinking of
was a lil window, and had 2 drop down boxes and a text box. The first drop
down was a list of keys on the keyboard. The 2nd drop down were modifyer
keys (CTRL, ALT, SHIFT) and the text box was for a numeric interval (1000ms,
12000ms, etc). You'd create a macro in UO, such as the following:

Last Object (for example, if you double clicked on the mortar & pestle)
Last Target (again, you chose the mortar & pestle to make the last potion
again)

Then you'd assign that macro to, say, CTRL+W in UO. Then, in this loop prog,
you'd select W from the first drop down, select CTRL from the 2nd, and put
an interval of like 2000ms. Then, there was a button on the prog to start
the macro. Every 2000ms, the program would do a 'sendkeys' type operation
and send CTRL+W to UO. Worked ok, but was limited by what macros you could
create in UO. Macroing simple things like meditation & hiding were simple
though. I dont think you were able to macro things that required selecting
something from a menu (like tinkering or smithing).

Baph

Myrex

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Nov 13, 2001, 9:40:14 AM11/13/01
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Baphomet woke up on Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:10:19 GMT and sat in
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> Maybe I'm thinking of a different proggie then .. the one I'm thinking
> of was a lil window, and had 2 drop down boxes and a text box. The
> first drop down was a list of keys on the keyboard. The 2nd drop down
> were modifyer keys (CTRL, ALT, SHIFT) and the text box was for a
> numeric interval (1000ms, 12000ms, etc). You'd create a macro in UO,
> such as the following:
>

Oh, definately different proggy then :)

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Michael Vondung

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Nov 13, 2001, 10:54:25 AM11/13/01
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Minus the field for the modifier key, what you describe is "UO Loop".
I don't know if it was ever on the official UO site, but I do know
that it was not exclusively part of the UOE package -- I never used
UOE, but I used to have UO Loop when it was not illegal to use... and
well, when there was still need to macro. :) Not like anyone actually
really has to macro unattended today anymore. (back then, when we
walked up the mountain, no shoes, in winter.. yadda yadda ;)

Ciro
http://www.furcadia.com

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