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Dundee

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:23:44 GMT, tub...@ix.netcom.com (bizbee)
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>I <really> think it's time for a better forum for SBR business than
>this newsgroup.... I'm filtering that many (easily over 500) out about
>every three days. And that's not even all of them.

That's easily enough traffic for a new newsgroup, I should think.

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Dundee of Lake Superior - Skep...@SPAMISantisocial.com
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Glaeken

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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I agree with ya. Tho I support the SBR, even tho i'm not a member or made
a mule to join, I think there are way too many messages posted here on the
SBR topic. Xoom has guildboards for guilds on the various shards, can't
someone from the various SBRs figure out how to get your own shard-based
board going?

Just one old guy's opinion.

Glaeken of LS


Quench

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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Done and Done!!!! It is temporary, but it works...

http://www.uong.com/discussion/

Quench


bizbee wrote in message <36766007...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...


>I <really> think it's time for a better forum for SBR business than
>this newsgroup.... I'm filtering that many (easily over 500) out about
>every three days. And that's not even all of them.

>....no offense, but I'm trying to figure if everyone <really> thinks
>that the thousands of people that read this newsgroup are that
>interested in private guild business... stories of battles are one
>thing, bickering over politics, where to put a guild house, whether to
><get> a guildhouse, bitching about non-compliance, and a dozen other
>topics are discussions that should be held elsewhere. "It started in
>the newsgroup and should be kept there" just doesn't cut it as a
>reason. Spam started in newsgroups too.... and that's what this is
>turning into.
>
>How about a message board on a webpage, like the grown-up guilds,
>or hell, even the guilds run by 12 year olds... surely we can at least
>do as good as <them>...a mailing list seems out, since a handful of
>people seem to think that jack-booted thugs will break down their
>doors and force feed them rats if they join one, and that same handful
>of people assume they speak for everyone... or even if they <don't>
>speak for everyone, surely they know <what is best> for everyone...
>hey, this sounds like the US Government, without the blowjobs (I
>think)! All I have to say about a mailing list is "If you don't want
>to be on it, don't join it... stay in the dark, and let the rest of
>the people communicate".
>
>.....and, turn on the self-important flame throwers if you like, but I
>won't see them... because this message will be filtered out too. There
>is <no> logical argument against it... face it, some people just
>thrive on seeing their name associated with something popular. No
>offense. People scream about one post of a binary, or spam (and
>they're right to), but the same people see no problem with 650
>messages that only 1% (or less) of the readers are interested in. And
>they will argue until they're dead against my proposal all the while
>supplying absolutely no logical reason to support their objection.
>
>I won't even talk about security, since people even argue about
>that....

Radnor

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:38:50 GMT, Dun...@LakeSuperior.Shard wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:23:44 GMT, tub...@ix.netcom.com (bizbee)
> wrote:
>
> >I <really> think it's time for a better forum for SBR business than
> >this newsgroup.... I'm filtering that many (easily over 500) out about
> >every three days. And that's not even all of them.
>
> That's easily enough traffic for a new newsgroup, I should think.

I'll whip up a RFD charter for a new group and post it here, where we
can make changes to it. Then it can be sent off to
news.announce.newsgroups for discussion / voting. It'd take a month or so
for it to go through the channels and be created, but it might be worth it
in the long run.

What do you think-- rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds?

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Iridium / jaew

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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aye - we move, but why the the frustration? "649 messages filtered out" well
why the heck are you still getting upset? That's what the filter is for!!!
Why not have shard specific cannels anyway? Then city specific
channels.......rant...rant.
I see the value in moving but i am still dismayed at people getting upset
over something they have already filtered!!!! *takes a valium* See - no
reason to get upset.......hehe

Ranger Jaew - newsgrouper Iridium

Corwin of Amber (Wind Elders, ATL)

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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>I <really> think it's time for a better forum for SBR business than
>this newsgroup.... I'm filtering that many (easily over 500) out about

Are we a guild or are we the newsgroup? Where do you get the idea that
1000's of people read our tripe? What if it turns out that 65% of the
people who read this group are actually interested and/or have already
joined the rangers?

Well, only way to know is if people speak out and tell us to shutup.

Corwin


Thales (Ifurita)

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:00:33 -0500, k...@bigstinkyfoot.nostinky.com
(Radnor) wrote:

> What do you think-- rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds?

Well, since this is currently just for the SBR, how about:

rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds.SBR

Thales aka Ranger Ifurita ot the Skara Rangers

Marten

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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I think 'they' are usually pretty finicky about creating new groups in
the main heirarchies like rec.* I think a .guild group could go
through but im unsure about an sbr specific one.

Oreh Ta Egral

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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I don't read most of the messages, my choice. Now and then I get started on
a thread, also my choice. I do agree that they should keep political
problems out of the public (newsgroup) eyes. For a guild, problems are best
handled in private. err IMHO hehe

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Oreh Ta Egral
http://members.xoom.com/Oreh/


Jeff Gentry

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Thales (Ifurita) (fgrubb_...@quicksilver.com) wrote:
: > What do you think-- rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds?
: rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds.SBR

Probably will have a lot more luck with alt.games.computer.ultima.......

Loki Dahlmarth

Mat [Ranger, SBR]

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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>Probably will have a lot more luck with alt.games.computer.ultima.......

I think we should try to go for the rec -group, otherwise we'll have people nuking the group for months before it's left alone..

And I do think we have valid reasons to expand this tree one branch..

--
Mat [Ranger, SBR]
http://www.tackman.finland.net
m a t r i m < a t > t a c k m a n < d o t > f i n l a n d < d o t > n e t


Erinn

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Jeff Gentry wrote in message <754lg2$tp4$2...@newsfeeds.rpi.edu>...

>Thales (Ifurita) (fgrubb_...@quicksilver.com) wrote:
>: > What do you think-- rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds?
>: rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds.SBR
>
>Probably will have a lot more luck with alt.games.computer.ultima.......
>
>Loki Dahlmarth

Yes, you could have an alt group pretty quick. You don't have to jump
through hoops for one. The drawback is the propagation isn't as good. It
wouldn't hurt to give it a try and see if it suits. It may even help you
*get* that rec group if you can prove a viable alt group in your RFD.

--
Erinnyes Dragon -==(UDIC)==-
http://home.HiWAAY.net/~ssweargn/

Radnor

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:08:33 GMT, fgrubb_...@quicksilver.com wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:00:33 -0500, k...@bigstinkyfoot.nostinky.com
> (Radnor) wrote:
>
> > What do you think-- rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds?
>
> Well, since this is currently just for the SBR, how about:
>
> rec.games.computer.ultima.online.guilds.SBR
>
> Thales aka Ranger Ifurita ot the Skara Rangers

It's too specific... There's no telling how long this sort of traffic
will hold up JUST for the SBR guild. Just plain guild talk, though, has a
good chance of going through.

Jeff Gentry

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Mat [Ranger, SBR] (matrim.r...@removethistoo.tackman.finland.net) wrote:
: And I do think we have valid reasons to expand this tree one branch..

The only reason I would say otherwise is personal experience. I used to
play on the Battletech:3056 MUSE, which was quite large. People used
rec.games.mecha to discuss things (this was really before web based
msg boards, so *everyone* used rec.games.mecha ... granted there were
only like 5000 players as opposed to 100k, but hey :)

The volume of posts far exceeded that of SBR and for a much longer time.
Not only that, but like SBR our posts started with [3056] (as opposed
to [SBR]), but there were 4-5 *other* MU*s that also generated traffic
(just to a lesser degree). After about 1.5 years of basically dominating
the NG in ways rgcuo hasnt even begun to imagine with SBR posts, we
applied for rec.games.mecha.muse and was told that the nature of the
topic was too transiatory.

Granted, that was in 95, and the net was a lot different now, but
just a bit of a heads up.

Loki Dahlmarth, LS
Red Capes of Justice

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