A character named Larson Vermont sold a 'Full City Runebook' to another guy
at Britains bank (Europa) for 4K. When the unfortunate purchaser opened the
book however, he discovered it to be empty. Larson was ignoring him and the
other protesting people that gathered to condemn him, then ran promptly to
Cats Lair where he logged off.
Now, the purchaser was going to report this to a GM (probably still trying
*smiles*). Will a GM be able to take action? Or has Larson gotten away with
his ill deeds?
Wolfie, Europa Shard
>A character named Larson Vermont sold a 'Full City Runebook' to another guy
>at Britains bank (Europa) for 4K. When the unfortunate purchaser opened the
>book however, he discovered it to be empty. Larson was ignoring him and the
>other protesting people that gathered to condemn him, then ran promptly to
>Cats Lair where he logged off.
From my understanding, if he was calling it a "full city rune book" then he
can be nabbed for scamming. The victim's journal could presumably be used
to verify what, exactly, was being offered.
I've never actually witnessed anything come of a scam report, but I hear on
this group that the GMs are actually doing something about it now.
Katherine, Grandmaster Healer
Ciaran, Lia Fail Empire (Atlantic)
Hosting Dr. Dolittle's Stories <http://www.mhn.org/~kate/stories/>
Katherine wrote:
>
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:40:36 +0100, "Dominic"
> <dominic.sut...@btinternet.com> expounded:
>
> >A character named Larson Vermont sold a 'Full City Runebook' to another guy
> >at Britains bank (Europa) for 4K. When the unfortunate purchaser opened the
> >book however, he discovered it to be empty. Larson was ignoring him and the
> >other protesting people that gathered to condemn him, then ran promptly to
> >Cats Lair where he logged off.
>
> From my understanding, if he was calling it a "full city rune book" then he
> can be nabbed for scamming. The victim's journal could presumably be used
> to verify what, exactly, was being offered.
>
> I've never actually witnessed anything come of a scam report, but I hear on
> this group that the GMs are actually doing something about it now.
Stratics news about a month or so ago had an official OSI blurb about
scamming, to the effect that:
-selling a longsword of ruin (fair market value ~ worthless) for 1
million gold is ok if you call it a longsword of ruin.
-selling a longsword of ruin that you say is a vanquishing longsword is
scamming and GMs will get involved, and may ban the scammer.
gil
what about calling a backgammon baord a rare and charging 10k for it?
I made a large pile of mark scrolls with one of my scribes and converted
them all to gold. I put them up for sale ~"60 gold easy to make, not rare".
Sold them all in a day, checked all the vendors in my area and they all had
"1000 gold Rare Mark Scrolls".
I stopped making them.
But I will tell you, I have a nose for what may eventually become a semi
rare. If you have a scribe you may want to make a couple of dozen gold mark
scrolls just in case OSI removes it from the game. There may come a day when
you people will gladly spend 1-2k for a gold mark scroll.
Saw one of those on Chessie yesterday, too. Next to a gold Mark scroll for
50k and a piece of beeswax for 20k or so. Really pisses me off, but what
can I do?
Madman Across the Water
I'm more worried about people stripping newbies of what little cash
they've already gathered by selling them 'neato magic weapons' and the
like.
Otara
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Insane Ranter wrote:
>
> gil wrote:
>
> > Katherine wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:40:36 +0100, "Dominic"
> > > <dominic.sut...@btinternet.com> expounded:
> > >
> > > >A character named Larson Vermont sold a 'Full City Runebook' to another guy
> > > >at Britains bank (Europa) for 4K. When the unfortunate purchaser opened the
> > > >book however, he discovered it to be empty. Larson was ignoring him and the
> > > >other protesting people that gathered to condemn him, then ran promptly to
> > > >Cats Lair where he logged off.
> > >
> > > From my understanding, if he was calling it a "full city rune book" then he
> > > can be nabbed for scamming. The victim's journal could presumably be used
> > > to verify what, exactly, was being offered.
> > >
> > > I've never actually witnessed anything come of a scam report, but I hear on
> > > this group that the GMs are actually doing something about it now.
> >
> > Stratics news about a month or so ago had an official OSI blurb about
> > scamming, to the effect that:
> >
> > -selling a longsword of ruin (fair market value ~ worthless) for 1
> > million gold is ok if you call it a longsword of ruin.
> >
> > -selling a longsword of ruin that you say is a vanquishing longsword is
> > scamming and GMs will get involved, and may ban the scammer.
> >
> > gil
>
> what about calling a backgammon baord a rare and charging 10k for it?
Backgammon boards aren't rare, so that would be a misrepresentation of
the goods for sale/trade, so I'd say it's proscribed behavior.
gil
>> Saw one of those on Chessie yesterday, too. Next to a gold Mark scroll for
>> 50k and a piece of beeswax for 20k or so. Really pisses me off, but what
>> can I do?
>
>I made a large pile of mark scrolls with one of my scribes and converted
>them all to gold. I put them up for sale ~"60 gold easy to make, not rare".
>Sold them all in a day, checked all the vendors in my area and they all had
>"1000 gold Rare Mark Scrolls".
>
>I stopped making them.
Huh.
I would have just changed em to "500 gold easy to make..." and
watched.
>But I will tell you, I have a nose for what may eventually become a semi
>rare. If you have a scribe you may want to make a couple of dozen gold mark
>scrolls just in case OSI removes it from the game. There may come a day when
>you people will gladly spend 1-2k for a gold mark scroll.
Aye, I'm definately doing that.
Found a vendor selling a 'grab bag' full of random junk for 100 gold.
Cept he had a bottle of pink champagne in there as well.
I tossed just about everything else, just in case it was an attempt at
"grief duping" - dupe junk and a rare, get people banned. Assuming
Ian's (?) theory on how they detect duped goods was accurate, I
*should* be safe if it was.
If not, I've got other shards I can play on.
: Now, the purchaser was going to report this to a GM (probably still trying
: *smiles*). Will a GM be able to take action? Or has Larson gotten away with
: his ill deeds?
Probably. They're cracking down on scammers now. A personal experience to
prove it:
Right before UO:R went in, on my way to the bank with a full packhorse
of wood, one of those lovely town monster spawns appeared and slaughtered
me and my packhorse. On my way to retrieve the wood from the corpse, I
found some unscrupulous individual dragging it to the bank himself. Me
and a few others surrounded him and demanded he return the wood. (he
couldn't move since it was too heavy) Being your standard UO griefer, he
laughed at us and refused to return it, and there was quite a long
standoff. Fortunately, this was a newbie griefer, and said he would sell
me the 1600 wood back for 500 gold. Of course, upon handing over the 500,
he wouldn't drop the wood, so several people paged GMs. About a minute
later *poof* someone appears asking where the scammer is. Of course by
then we had told him that we had paged the GMs, so the griefer handed
over the wood.
So they are doing something at least.
--
Ian Kelley "Try not to become a man of success but
ike...@mail.sas.upenn.edu rather to become a man of value."
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ikelley/ --Albert Einstein