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MdmeDis
karl.k...@maximus.kolumbus.fi says...
>
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/m1973180/other/5index.htm
> > Just Clikt to enter~! FREE!! Download !!!
>
> Well you don't see that every day, mmkay?
Trust me - those of us of the non-dangly persuasion would rather not.
But I guess the thought of entering by means of a clikt must be
irresistible for some.....
<waves to the Stars group again>
'Tis a shame we only connect in this rather, umm, tenuous manner. Have
we seen you since the (disastrous) release of our latest game?
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Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Having finally opted for it being the rest of the
world that's screwed, after all.
MdmeDis
says...
> Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post with
> kids in the house thank you.
>
>
> P-L-O-N-K.
Let me guess - this pillar of society posted from .online. So concerned
about kids he posts it himself across 4 newsgroups...
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Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
DisDefinition: I'm no prude, but there are children in this NG =
I am a prude but I don't want to admit it.
James McGuigan
> In article <39D4C04C...@maximus.kolumbus.fi>,
> karl.k...@maximus.kolumbus.fi says...
> >
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/m1973180/other/5index.htm
> > > Just Clikt to enter~! FREE!! Download !!!
> >
> > Well you don't see that every day, mmkay?
>
> Trust me - those of us of the non-dangly persuasion would rather not.
> But I guess the thought of entering by means of a clikt must be
> irresistible for some.....
Well, not irresistable enough to make me want to waste my time clikting it.
> <waves to the Stars group again>
<waves back to the ultima.dragons group>
> 'Tis a shame we only connect in this rather, umm, tenuous manner. Have
> we seen you since the (disastrous) release of our latest game?
Well, don't know - havn't kept up to date on the lateist releases, so why not enlighten us all on
it - it'll give you a chance to advertise the game in a massive cross post whitout being labled a
spammer!
And rest assured that when our new game comes out, we will let all you nice folkes know all the jucy
details
> --
> Disoriented Dragon
> -==(UDIC)==-
>
> Having finally opted for it being the rest of the
> world that's screwed, after all.
What you only just realised that!
--
Rules are written for those who lack the ability to truly reason,
But for those who can, the rules become nothing more than guidelines,
And live their lives governed not by rules but by reason.
- James McGuigan
Amon
DragonsDragon
>Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post with
>kids in the house thank you.
>
>
>P-L-O-N-K.
....
Dragon's Dragon
"Haha, you loser!"
"Maybe you should shut up."
"Maybe you bite me."
"Awww....nuts."
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DS
MdmeDis wrote:
> In article <SXbB5.18709$gw4.2...@news1.cableinet.net>, m...@here.where
> says...
> > Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post with
> > kids in the house thank you.
> >
> >
> > P-L-O-N-K.
Who are you plonking the spammer or MdmeDis?
> Let me guess - this pillar of society posted from .online. So concerned
> about kids he posts it himself across 4 newsgroups...
>
> --
> Disoriented Dragon
> -==(UDIC)==-
>
> DisDefinition: I'm no prude, but there are children in this NG =
> I am a prude but I don't want to admit it.
--
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Lost Dragon
>>kids in the house thank you.
>>P-L-O-N-K.
Feh.. Who lets their kids surf the 'net unattended?
Oh right.. That idiot must.
BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
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Paulon
> >>Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post with
> >>kids in the house thank you.
> >>P-L-O-N-K.
>
>
> Oh right.. That idiot must.
>
> BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
Who lets their kids read a newsgroup devoted to a game which has age
restrictions in the TOS? A UO PKer.
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James McGuigan
> Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post with
> kids in the house thank you.
>
>
> P-L-O-N-K.
>
Yes I do want to see that kind of post, and yess I think the kids should see it as well. Because if
they can't learn about this sort of stuff in a inteligent and rational NG that could teach them
about it in a good way, then they would go to another NG to learn about it, and we don't know what
other feidish NGs would get up to, in front of the kids.
Amon
Personally i dont want my kids surfing it.. and i think quite a few people
would agree with me.
And yes the Plonk was for the poster of the Link.
DragonsDragon
>
>>>Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of post
>with
>>>kids in the house thank you.
>>>P-L-O-N-K.
>
>Feh.. Who lets their kids surf the 'net unattended?
>
>Oh right.. That idiot must.
>
>BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
Um....;:cough::
Er....
Amon
was Cross-posted .. I forgot to edit the crossposts from the List ..AS may i
add did everyone else including you ..so check your facts before you start
throwing random flames at people whose intention is to protect children from
the crap its obvious you dont mind.
No im not a prude.. persoanlly i dont care what you want to look at .. but
when it comes to my kids i do.
Claus Dragon
that...
>"Amon" <m...@here.where> wrote in message news:SXbB5.18709$gw4.2...@news1.cableinet.net...
>> kids in the house thank you.
>>
>>
>> P-L-O-N-K.
>>
>
>they can't learn about this sort of stuff in a inteligent and rational NG that could teach them
>about it in a good way, then they would go to another NG to learn about it, and we don't know what
>other feidish NGs would get up to, in front of the kids.
>
>
other protective opinion as well. big problem...
i am glad i don´t have any kids (and probably never will).
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MdmeDis
says...
> I can´t believe you, "James McGuigan" <Jame...@ntlworld.com> wrote
> that...
> >"Amon" <m...@here.where> wrote in message news:SXbB5.18709$gw4.2...@news1.cableinet.net...
> >> kids in the house thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> P-L-O-N-K.
> >>
> >
> >they can't learn about this sort of stuff in a inteligent and rational NG that could teach them
> >about it in a good way, then they would go to another NG to learn about it, and we don't know what
> >other feidish NGs would get up to, in front of the kids.
> >
> >
> yes, there is something true in that statement...but i understand the
> other protective opinion as well. big problem...
>
> i am glad i don´t have any kids (and probably never will).
Define "kid" or "child". I seriously doubt there is one under thirteen
(the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
If you let a child loose on the net, and you feel the need to yell about
this stuff to anyone other than the child, you ain't doing a very good
job of parenting. It is your child - it is up to you to adapt him the
way you see fit to the world, not the other way round.
Dan Neely
"MdmeDis" <mdm...@hotmail.com>
> In clau...@hotmail.com says...
> > "James McGuigan" wrote
> > >"Amon" wrote
> > >> Afraid its a plonk from me... really dont want to see this kind of
post with
> > >> kids in the house thank you.
> > >
should see it as well.
> > >
> > other protective opinion as well. big problem...
>
> (the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
> where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
> going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
I have to agree, if a child is smart enough to read our groups theres
nothing to stop him from reading all.binaries.erotica.*
MdmeDis
lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam says...
> >Define "kid" or "child". I seriously doubt there is one under thirteen
> >(the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
> >where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
> >going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
> >
>
> Umm....*cough*
> I'm 13.
<laughs> I KNEW someone was gonna say this.
Well - lets hear what you have to say about it. Did you go look at the
page? Do you look at much pornography? If you do, are your parents aware
you do, and do they care?
Once I knew my son was doing this and watching pornographic movies, I
insisted on discussing it with him. Did he hate that!
Wtcher Dragon
*peers around*
Since nobody else seems to be saying anything, I will for the rest of
the group.
Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
Sincerely thine,
Wtcher Dragon
DragonsDragon
>says...
>> I can´t believe you, "James McGuigan" <Jame...@ntlworld.com> wrote
>> that...
>> >"Amon" <m...@here.where> wrote in message
>news:SXbB5.18709$gw4.2...@news1.cableinet.net...
>with
>> >> kids in the house thank you.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yes I do want to see that kind of post, and yess I think the kids should
>> >they can't learn about this sort of stuff in a inteligent and rational NG
>that could teach them
>> >about it in a good way, then they would go to another NG to learn about
>it, and we don't know what
>> >other feidish NGs would get up to, in front of the kids.
>> >
>> >
>> other protective opinion as well. big problem...
>>
>
>(the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
>where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
>going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
>
Umm....*cough*
I'm 13.
>If you let a child loose on the net, and you feel the need to yell about
>this stuff to anyone other than the child, you ain't doing a very good
>job of parenting. It is your child - it is up to you to adapt him the
>way you see fit to the world, not the other way round.
>
>
>--
> Disoriented Dragon
> -==(UDIC)==-
>
>Having finally opted for it being the rest of the
>world that's screwed, after all.
>
Dragon's Dragon
James McGuigan
news:8r60ve$fd$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
>
> "MdmeDis" <mdm...@hotmail.com>
> > In clau...@hotmail.com says...
> > > "James McGuigan" wrote
> > > >"Amon" wrote
> post with
> > > >> kids in the house thank you.
> > > >
> should see it as well.
> > > >
> > > other protective opinion as well. big problem...
> >
> > (the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
> > where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
> > going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
>
> nothing to stop him from reading all.binaries.erotica.*
>
From what I learnt, there isn't actually much to "read" in alt.binaries.erotica.*
There's quite a bit to see, but not much in the way of reading. alt.binaries.stories.sex on the
other hand...
But I would have to agree that only the dumb kids would click on that link, as most likely it's full
of pop up banners, ads and everything but "Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!" - and is just
another example of how the usenet is far better than the WWW for getting what you are actually
looking for.
Samurai
Quoth Wtcher Dragon <wtc...@sprint.ca>:
>Amon wrote:
[munch]
>*peers around*
>
>Since nobody else seems to be saying anything, I will for the rest of
>the group.
TBH, Wtcher, I'd prefer to speak for myself, if I believe something
needs to be said. That way, if I stuff up, at least I can't blame
anyone else. :)
>Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
>the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
Milady? I've seen Amon only as a male name. <:)
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DragonsDragon
>> >(the usual legal definition of a child) actually reading these groups -
>> >where he downloads the headers etc. If (s)he is, then this stuff isn't
>> >going to shock him. Assuming he could get to it - I couldn't!
>> >
>>
>> I'm 13.
>
><laughs> I KNEW someone was gonna say this.
>
> Well - lets hear what you have to say about it. Did you go look at the
>page? Do you look at much pornography? If you do, are your parents aware
>you do, and do they care?
>
I'm going to plead upon my constitutional rights here.
Besides, the answer could violate my newsreaders TOS.
>Once I knew my son was doing this and watching pornographic movies, I
>insisted on discussing it with him. Did he hate that!
Dare I ask how he got a hold of them?
Around here, the main way to get porno (or so I'm told <G>) is to go up to Boy
Scout Camp in the summer :)
Dragon's Dragon
"Haha, you loser!"
"Maybe you should shut up."
"Maybe you bite me."
"Awww....nuts."
Splut Count: 4
Wtcher Dragon
Samurai wrote:
> TBH, Wtcher, I'd prefer to speak for myself, if I believe something
> needs to be said. That way, if I stuff up, at least I can't blame
> anyone else. :)
>
> >Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
> >the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
>
> Milady? I've seen Amon only as a male name. <:)
Point well taken.
MdmeDis
>
>
> Amon wrote:
> >
> > For your information .. i didnt Cross-post this topic ..the original Message
> > was Cross-posted .. I forgot to edit the crossposts from the List ..AS may i
> > add did everyone else including you ..so check your facts before you start
> > throwing random flames at people whose intention is to protect children from
> > the crap its obvious you dont mind.
> > No im not a prude.. persoanlly i dont care what you want to look at .. but
> > when it comes to my kids i do.
>
>
> Since nobody else seems to be saying anything, I will for the rest of
> the group.
>
> the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
I haven't said anything I want to apologize for, so I'd really
appreciate it if you wouldn't speak for me.
If (s)he chooses to be offended by my opinion, AFAIAC, so be it. I'm
tired of people who aren't willing to control their kids and expect the
rest of us to it for them.
When you know a where pedophile dwells, it is YOUR responsibility to
make sure your brat doesn't go there unattended.
And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
literally or any other way.
--
Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Who has chicken pox for the second time in her adult life and is more
than usually crabby. Being referred to as the Lesser Spotted madam is
not viewed as constructive. :(
Dan Neely
"MdmeDis" <mdm...@hotmail.com> wrote
> And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
> pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
> literally or any other way.
eww, thats as bad a the gay crap flooding my spambox.
Musashi Dragon
Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
MdmeDis wrote:
>In article <39D6C9B6...@sprint.ca>, wtc...@sprint.ca says...
>> Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
>> the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
>
>I haven't said anything I want to apologize for, so I'd really
>appreciate it if you wouldn't speak for me.
I thought that Wtcher was being sarcastic -- first about crossposting to
rgcuo, and then "our" "involvement" in the sullying of her children's
minds. Or whatever it was she was whining about. Or he.
>And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
>pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
>literally or any other way.
*cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
for "send me spam"?
*GD&R*
--
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Cody Hatch
rec.games.computer.stars, m...@here.where alledged that:
>Well if you want your kids surfing Pornography dont let me stop you...
>Personally i dont want my kids surfing it..
Oh come on! Just how old ARE your kids, anyhow? If they're before
puberty, they A.) Won't understand it anyhow, and B.) Won't really have any
interest in it, and so not only wouldn't they surf it, if they did, it
wouldn't mean anything. If they are older than that, $5 says they've
already seen at least as much as was on the other side of that link...which
was PROBABLY just some banner ads ANYHOW.
Speaking as a kid who *DID* surf a lot of porn when he was 14 or so, it's
quite educational--gives you so many ideas for when you get bored of the
porn and find a girlfriend. :-) If you've done a HALFWAY decent job of
parenting (hell, if you've even made an attempt at the job), it's not going
to scar them, warp them, ruin them, or anything else. If you REALLY are
afraid of the effects of your kids viewing porn, I feel DAMN sorry for your
kids, because they've already BEEN damaged, and not by some porn, either!
There comes a point when you have to accept that you can't control every
aspect of your kids life, so you just have to let them go, and trust that
they'll make the right decisions. And that point comes the FIRST time they
leave your sight. My parents did a good job of making me the sort of
person that would choose to do the right thing, instead of just trusting
they'd always be around to make me do it.
>and i think quite a few people
>would agree with me.
The scary thing is, your right. There's a LOT of people out there that
think they don't NEED to teach their kid that building bombs is wrong--just
don't let them find bomb recipies. Feel a bit embarassed about having a
birds and the bees talk? No problem! Just make sure they never see any
porn! Not up to explaining the difference between right and wrong? That's
okay! Just keep them from ever having the opportunity to do wrong! And
since none of that works, just PRETEND that they don't have the
opportunity. That's the philosophy of a lot of parents--including, of
course, the parents of every kid who's ever brought a gun to school and
shot someone...
Personally, I suspect your just jealous that YOU didn't have an internet
access when YOU were 14. :-)
Cody
--
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
Claus Dragon
>>and i think quite a few people
>>would agree with me.
>
>The scary thing is, your right. There's a LOT of people out there that
>think they don't NEED to teach their kid that building bombs is wrong--just
>don't let them find bomb recipies. Feel a bit embarassed about having a
>birds and the bees talk? No problem! Just make sure they never see any
>porn! Not up to explaining the difference between right and wrong? That's
>okay! Just keep them from ever having the opportunity to do wrong! And
>since none of that works, just PRETEND that they don't have the
>opportunity. That's the philosophy of a lot of parents--including, of
>course, the parents of every kid who's ever brought a gun to school and
>shot someone...
if i may quote from clockwork orange here?
"what does god want? does god want goodness chosen by force? or does
he allow the choice between good and evil? isn´t a man choosing evil
voluntarily not a better human, in some ways, than one who can´t
choose anything else except good?
>Personally, I suspect your just jealous that YOU didn't have an internet
>access when YOU were 14. :-)
>
that´s something i would not call jealousy, more irritation.
Claus Dragon
that...
>[others snipped]
>
>Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
>MdmeDis wrote:
>>In article <39D6C9B6...@sprint.ca>, wtc...@sprint.ca says...
>>> Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
>>> the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
>>
>>I haven't said anything I want to apologize for, so I'd really
>>appreciate it if you wouldn't speak for me.
>
>I thought that Wtcher was being sarcastic -- first about crossposting to
>rgcuo, and then "our" "involvement" in the sullying of her children's
>minds. Or whatever it was she was whining about. Or he.
>
>>And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
>>pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
>>literally or any other way.
>
>*cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
>for "send me spam"?
>
>*GD&R*
>
that i did not get much spam, until i registered with deja.news. now
it´s about 10 spam mails a day ("block sender" and "empty folder" do
their job, though).
Wtcher Dragon
MdmeDis wrote:
> > Since nobody else seems to be saying anything, I will for the rest of
> > the group.
> >
> > Milady Amon, please accept this past-due apology for any comments from
> > the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
>
> I haven't said anything I want to apologize for, so I'd really
> appreciate it if you wouldn't speak for me.
Didn't name any names! Although I guess it was rather presumptuous of
me.
Sorry.
-WD
(Hope you get better soon)
MdmeDis
Musash...@home.com says...
> [others snipped]
>
> Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
> MdmeDis wrote:
> >In article <39D6C9B6...@sprint.ca>, wtc...@sprint.ca says...
> >> the RGCUD which may have offended you or any of your relations.
> >
> >I haven't said anything I want to apologize for, so I'd really
> >appreciate it if you wouldn't speak for me.
>
> rgcuo, and then "our" "involvement" in the sullying of her children's
> minds. Or whatever it was she was whining about. Or he.
In that case, my humble apologies to Wtcher. It's usually such a nice
thing, I thought I'd mortified it by my crass behaviour. I wouldn't mind
it apologising even for belonging to the same group as me, but NOT for
what I said.
> >And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
> >pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
> >literally or any other way.
>
> *cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
> for "send me spam"?
That was partially the reason for getting it - the other was to stop
people complaining to rr - which is Fortran's server, but on which I
have an e-mail account, to get even with me.
--
Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Getting hourly spottier.
MdmeDis
says...
> >>And who's the clown spamming my nice new hotmail account with
> >>pornography? I am NOT into our barnyard friends - figuratively,
> >>literally or any other way.
> >
> >*cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
> >for "send me spam"?
> >
> >*GD&R*
> >
> erm. i use a hotmail account for nearly everything and i have to say
> that i did not get much spam, until i registered with deja.news. now
> it愀 about 10 spam mails a day ("block sender" and "empty folder" do
> their job, though).
Struck me as odd, right after this discussion, that I get two of these,
when usually I get one possibly every couple of months. My nasty little
mind immediately suspects the original complainer.
MdmeDis
Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
> > *cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
> > for "send me spam"?
>
>
> Hotmail is for those who can't be bothered to set up OE properly, or want to have a spam decoy
> address for filling out web forms.
And those of us who prefer not to have to deal with the increasing tide
of whiners who try to use our servers as censors. I try to obey the
rules of the road when it comes to OT and cross posting, which brings me
to the question - how tight are you about off-topic in .stars? Whilst
it's nice to chat on occasion, I don't want to outstay my welcome.
Wtcher Dragon
MdmeDis wrote:
> In that case, my humble apologies to Wtcher. It's usually such a nice
> thing, I thought I'd mortified it by my crass behaviour. I wouldn't mind
> it apologising even for belonging to the same group as me, but NOT for
> what I said.
Honestly, I was apologizing more to make Amon feel better, NOT because I
felt anybody did wrong.
MdmeDis
Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
> If you have to cut the cross post, then please don't cut out rec.games.computer.stars. We just get a
> little anoyed when you lot try to cut us out of a thread resulting from a spam on our NG.
I know - they try to rob us of our trolls that way. Not many visit any
more. :(
>
> But back on to the topic at hand, I think that the so called "protection" and hiding chldren from
> this vile menace of society, is the only thing that makes this such a menace. If you didn't hide it
> or make such a fuss about it, most likely they would wouldn't think that much of it.
>
> It's only when it is hidden and childeren told it is bad, is when it becomes naughty and childern
> start dealving into it, because it is naughty.
Partly, but I remember me at that age. Nothing would've, or did, stop me
when it came to such matters. My parents tried to actually stop me
reading anything - so by eleven I had read, amongst other things, the
complete works of de Sade.
Some of that stuff is a tad on the disturbed side - as are the donkey
lovers and chicken molesters nestling in my mail box. I'd prefer that
should a child of mine see it, I get a chance to say "Hey - this isn't
the only way to go". I won't if it's all driven underground.
I lurked for a while in a moderated group of compulsive sex addicts, and
was interested to see how many of them got really hooked on pornography
because it was forbidden, so there's much to what you say.
Dan Neely
"MdmeDis" <mdm...@hotmail.com> wrote
> I try to obey the
> rules of the road when it comes to OT and cross posting, which brings me
> to the question - how tight are you about off-topic in .stars? Whilst
> it's nice to chat on occasion, I don't want to outstay my welcome.
as long as its not flaming, noone really minds. We've had long
discussion/arguments on education, economics, current events, technological
progress, philisophical meanings of signatures, etc. I can only think of 1
set of OT threads that almost everyone in the group thought had overstayed
its welcome. And by one count it and the threads that it spawned numbered
over 1500 posts.
MdmeDis
Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
>
> "DragonsDragon" <lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
> news:20000930104702...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
> > lostd...@worldnet.att.net
> > >Feh.. Who lets their kids surf the 'net unattended?
> > >
> > >Oh right.. That idiot must.
> > >
> > >BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
> >
> > Um....;:cough::
> > Er....
>
> You obviously need a few lessons in how to make love. Because girls can get a little anoyed if you
> are not quite sure on what to do.
Well, yes. If you are talking to Lost, he does have problems with his
virgins. The last lot he put in an aquarium, fed them seeds and forgot
to water them. I think that was shortly after his birds and bees chat.
If you're talking about Dragon's dragon - he claims to be 13, so he's
probably at a difficult age.
>
> Maybe you should go find some good demonstrations of how to do it properly on the web.
>
> P.S. How dare you remove rec.games.computer.stars from the cross post list! We would never do such a
> thing to the dragons, so please have the same respect for us.
There are some not nearly as willing as you to share with the dragons.
<smirks at .online, who are still having problems with the facts about
their conception>
MdmeDis
says...
> Ok.. i think i should clarify my standing here... ok.. maybie desensitising
> kids from this kind of thing is one possible route ..(i think most of the
> governments wouldnt agree however) ..
> what i object to is 'Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!' with the emphesis
> on the
> 'Young GIRLS' .. With all the hoohah about Paedophilia recently.. you think
> people might want to PROTECT kids from it... Frankly i cant see how exposing
> kids to peadophillia is going to help in thier education ..
They're going to see it. Best that one as a parent has the opportunity
to talk to them about it when they do. That way, they have a much better
chance to defend themselves. Personally, I don't think it's a good thing
for a pre-pubescent child to see hard core porn, but if he's loose on
the net chances are pretty good he will. You are not going to stop it -
the spam fighters can't completely, so the best thing to do, as Lost
suggested, is make sure you know when he's online by password protecting
his computer and when he is, monitor his activity.
Making it forbidden fruit is going to peak his interest, and will mean
he will hide it from you - that's what I did, and got to read some stuff
I'd never have found if I hadn't been sneaking around.
> As for what was on the otherside of the link ..i dont know.. i didnt look..
> so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
> possibility was there..
> Beleve me.. im hoping the the internet stays a fairly free place.. trouble
> is with stuff like this flying about on Games boards
Game boards? My experience with obscenity on the game boards has mainly
been FROM the 13 and 14 year olds!
> ..its only adding to
> the fuel to the fire to censor the whole damn thing.
Well - no censorship means just that. You can't just censor the bits you
don't want. Wait until you hit someone who considers roleplaying the
devils workshop and wants it censored because his child reads your
newsgroup....
If you don't want censorship, find ways to keep your child away from
what you don't want him to see. Usually being open about it is the most
effective way.
MdmeDis
lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam says...
> Um....right....I was coughing at the fact that if my parents had ANY clue on
> what to do (or, incidentially, that i'm posting here :) then they'd go
> ballistic,
Why?
> which is why I'm glad I know what I'm doing, and they doing. Don't
> know what I would do without my alt.sex.sheep.baaa.baaa.baaa.moo.
> (actual newsgroup! I swear!)
Yes - our last 13 year old (actually, 'Phid may have been 14) was kind
enough to lead us there. Not to mention enlightening us about MDLA (Man
Dolphin Love association) Gave whole new meanings to Free Willy, let me
tell you!
But you very nicely make my point.
MdmeDis
Umm - an apology is an expression of regret for some wrong *you* have
committed. You can't apologize for a wrong someone else has done,
although you can empathize by expressing your sorrow at his/her
unhappiness. Had you said something to the effect of "I'm sorry if
comments made by some of this group have made you unhappy" then I would,
in all conscience, have had to seethe in silence, because you were
expressing your feelings, not apologising for my actions.
Wtcher Dragon
MdmeDis wrote:
> Umm - an apology is an expression of regret for some wrong *you* have
> committed. You can't apologize for a wrong someone else has done,
> although you can empathize by expressing your sorrow at his/her
> unhappiness. Had you said something to the effect of "I'm sorry if
> comments made by some of this group have made you unhappy" then I would,
> in all conscience, have had to seethe in silence, because you were
> expressing your feelings, not apologising for my actions.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think I'll just stay silent next
time.
James McGuigan
"DragonsDragon" <lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
news:20000930104702...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
> lostd...@worldnet.att.net
>
>
> >
> >with
> >>>kids in the house thank you.
> >
> >Feh.. Who lets their kids surf the 'net unattended?
> >
> >Oh right.. That idiot must.
> >
> >BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
>
> Um....;:cough::
> Er....
You obviously need a few lessons in how to make love. Because girls can get a little anoyed if you
are not quite sure on what to do.
Maybe you should go find some good demonstrations of how to do it properly on the web.
P.S. How dare you remove rec.games.computer.stars from the cross post list! We would never do such a
thing to the dragons, so please have the same respect for us.
James McGuigan
> For your information .. i didnt Cross-post this topic ..the original Message
> was Cross-posted .. I forgot to edit the crossposts from the List ..AS may i
> add did everyone else including you ..so check your facts before you start
> throwing random flames at people whose intention is to protect children from
> the crap its obvious you dont mind.
> No im not a prude.. persoanlly i dont care what you want to look at .. but
> when it comes to my kids i do.
If you have to cut the cross post, then please don't cut out rec.games.computer.stars. We just get a
little anoyed when you lot try to cut us out of a thread resulting from a spam on our NG.
But back on to the topic at hand, I think that the so called "protection" and hiding chldren from
this vile menace of society, is the only thing that makes this such a menace. If you didn't hide it
or make such a fuss about it, most likely they would wouldn't think that much of it.
It's only when it is hidden and childeren told it is bad, is when it becomes naughty and childern
start dealving into it, because it is naughty.
James McGuigan
> for "send me spam"?
No, just publicly stating your e-mail address is the universal sign for send me spam.
Hotmail is for those who can't be bothered to set up OE properly, or want to have a spam decoy
address for filling out web forms.
--
Musashi Dragon
>"DragonsDragon" <lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
>news:20000930104702...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
>>
>> Um....;:cough::
>> Er....
>
>You obviously need a few lessons in how to make love. Because girls can get a little anoyed if you
>are not quite sure on what to do.
Hey, calm down! He's only 13! :)
>Maybe you should go find some good demonstrations of how to do it properly on the web.
He can learn from Submersible Dragon and me. :-)
>P.S. How dare you remove rec.games.computer.stars from the cross post list! We would never do such a
>thing to the dragons, so please have the same respect for us.
Since Wtcher had so much fun doing it...
Please accept my humble apologies on behalf on the *entire* set of people
who have ever *looked* at rgcud. A few months ago we got into a
flamewar with rgcuo because we forgot to snip their group; the
spam-thread quickly became a love-in that lasted for around a month
before they yelled at us for the crossposting. :)
Amon
kids from this kind of thing is one possible route ..(i think most of the
governments wouldnt agree however) ..
what i object to is 'Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!' with the emphesis
on the
'Young GIRLS' .. With all the hoohah about Paedophilia recently.. you think
people might want to PROTECT kids from it... Frankly i cant see how exposing
kids to peadophillia is going to help in thier education ..
so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
possibility was there..
Beleve me.. im hoping the the internet stays a fairly free place.. trouble
Amon
Amon
Christian Ræbild
Why did you post this posting three times?
Best regards
Christian, from Denmark
DragonsDragon
>Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
>James McGuigan wrote:
>>"DragonsDragon" <lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
>>news:20000930104702...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
>>> >BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
>>>
>>> Um....;:cough::
>>> Er....
>>
>>You obviously need a few lessons in how to make love. Because girls can get
>a little anoyed if you
>>are not quite sure on what to do.
Um....right....I was coughing at the fact that if my parents had ANY clue on
what to do (or, incidentially, that i'm posting here :) then they'd go
ballistic, which is why I'm glad I know what I'm doing, and they doing. Don't
know what I would do without my alt.sex.sheep.baaa.baaa.baaa.moo.
(actual newsgroup! I swear!)
>Hey, calm down! He's only 13! :)
>
Thank you, HomieMcWhiteBread ;)
>>Maybe you should go find some good demonstrations of how to do it properly
>on the web.
>
>He can learn from Submersible Dragon and me. :-)
>
Righttt...when's my first lesson?
>>P.S. How dare you remove rec.games.computer.stars from the cross post list!
>We would never do such a
>>thing to the dragons, so please have the same respect for us.
>
Dear sir, I would never think of doing such a thing, but it must've been AOL,
since I don't know how to do it in the first place.
>Since Wtcher had so much fun doing it...
>
>Please accept my humble apologies on behalf on the *entire* set of people
>who have ever *looked* at rgcud. A few months ago we got into a
>flamewar with rgcuo because we forgot to snip their group; the
>spam-thread quickly became a love-in that lasted for around a month
>before they yelled at us for the crossposting. :)
Oooohh....missed that one....
Dragon's Dragon
"Haha, you loser!"
"Maybe you should shut up."
"Maybe you bite me."
"Awww....nuts."
Splut Count: 4
Musashi Dragon
>Ok.. i think i should clarify my standing here...
>what i object to is 'Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!' with the emphesis
>on the
>'Young GIRLS' ..
I quite agree. Blatant sexism! Let's have three cheers for
homosexuality!
>Frankly i cant see how exposing
>kids to peadophillia is going to help in thier education ..
You never played "house"?! :o_O
Or was is "doctor"? Or "grown-ups"? Or... oh well, I'm sure that there
are many names for it.
>As for what was on the otherside of the link ..i dont know.. i didnt look..
>so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
>possibility was there..
The possibility is always there. www.disney.com
>Beleve me.. im hoping the the internet stays a fairly free place.. trouble
>is with stuff like this flying about on Games boards ..its only adding to
>the fuel to the fire to censor the whole damn thing.
That would be the ideal solution! Censor the whole thing. Self-censor,
that is -- if somebody isn't mature enough for the 'net, they stop
themselves from going on it. Any part of it, including that Maoing
e-garbage.
--
Musashi Dragon Graduate student of Innuendo and Twisting
-==(UDIC Greybread)==- Silly Penguin
Angle of Hot Sex Silvertongue
Extremely Sic Linux Junkie
(I thought about making a custom sig for this one, but I have to leave
soon. If you know me, you know what kind of stuff would go there. :)
Attentive Dragon
"Christian Rćbild" <crae...@wanadoo.dk> wrote in message
news:39D7EB02...@wanadoo.dk...
> Why did you post this posting three times?
It was probably his newsservice Burping. Was probably not intentional (this
happens occasionally to me as well.) It seems to be a fairly common thing
with Usenet, generally the same newsservers seem to do it more often than
others...
Submersible Dragon
>
> Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
> Amon wrote:
> >Ok.. i think i should clarify my standing here...
>
> >what i object to is 'Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!' with the
> >emphesis on the 'Young GIRLS' ..
>
> I quite agree. Blatant sexism! Let's have three cheers for
> homosexuality!
Nah. Let's have three...
*peers at Group headers. Hmm, better keep this one PG-13*
Okay. Three cheers for homosexuality, then. But do I have to get up?
> Or was is "doctor"? Or "grown-ups"? Or... oh well, I'm sure that there
> are many names for it.
What the world needs now...
...is a new series of `Minipops`.
*pauses to drink in the silence of thousands of heads going `Huh?`*
;)
> >As for what was on the otherside of the link ..i dont know.. i didnt
> >look..
> >so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
> >possibility was there..
>
> The possibility is always there. www.disney.com
The magic is closer than you think. ;)
-sd.
Damocles
wrote:
>In article <vmQB5.5892$uq5.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
>
>> If you have to cut the cross post, then please don't cut out rec.games.computer.stars. We just get a
>> little anoyed when you lot try to cut us out of a thread resulting from a spam on our NG.
>
>I know - they try to rob us of our trolls that way. Not many visit any
>more. :(
>>
>> But back on to the topic at hand, I think that the so called "protection" and hiding chldren from
>> this vile menace of society, is the only thing that makes this such a menace. If you didn't hide it
>> or make such a fuss about it, most likely they would wouldn't think that much of it.
>>
>> It's only when it is hidden and childeren told it is bad, is when it becomes naughty and childern
>> start dealving into it, because it is naughty.
>
>Partly, but I remember me at that age. Nothing would've, or did, stop me
>when it came to such matters. My parents tried to actually stop me
>reading anything - so by eleven I had read, amongst other things, the
>complete works of de Sade.
I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when I was 12. I wonder
which of us is more fucked up?
MdmeDis
phae...@yahoo.com says...
> I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when I was 12. I wonder
> which of us is more fucked up?
Your point? Or is it just your usual fascination with and compulsion to
respond to everyone of my posts that has triggered yet another of your
inane comments?
Pix!
news:MPG.1441aaf8a...@news.alt.net...
> My parents tried to actually stop me
> reading anything
I think that's the scariest thing I've heard in quite a while.
Maxim S. Shatskih
>
> "what does god want? does god want goodness chosen by force? or does
> he allow the choice between good and evil? isn´t a man choosing evil
> voluntarily not a better human, in some ways, than one who can´t
> choose anything else except good?
According to xian beliefs, the Evil is a distortion while the Good is the
correct way as the God planned it.
The God was able to create the stone too heavy for himself - and this stone
is the human freedom of will.
Humans were created as free - free to choose between the correct way and the
distortions. But this does NOT mean that the distortions are OK.
Read Tolkien's books - very xian books in the essence, though looking pagan
(before-xian polytheistic beliefs) from the first sight.
Max
Maxim S. Shatskih
> he will hide it from you - that's what I did, and got to read some stuff
> I'd never have found if I hadn't been sneaking around.
From my personal experience - seeing hard porn in the age of 14 is a
zoological feeling. The porn actors seems to be animals, not humans.
Surely, practically any 14-years-old person knows what sex is - from talks
at school, if not from personal experience with some 19-20 years "lightly
behaving" girl.
Don't you know one of the main subject of talks among 10-12 years
schoolboys? Yes, sex from pornographical point of view.
Max
Maxim S. Shatskih
> are many names for it.
:-)))) great.
There are lots of sadistic (a bit) pre-pubertant girls, this ceases after
having the real sexual experience.
Max
MdmeDis
Not really my point. I was saying that making something forbidden means
you are probably encouraging the thing you most want to discourage.
Whether or not it is harmful is up to the parent to decide - this
particular one seemed to think it was, so I was saying that (s)he'd
prolly get better results by not trying to hide it or from it.
MdmeDis
They were Christian fundamentalists of a pretty stringent order that
ultimately became a cult.
The problem was - that by stopping me doing something like reading
normal books, it drove me to hide anything and everything I read (and
did for that matter), so I read indiscriminately and without supervision
or input. Not to mention stealing money to buy the books....
My teen years were beyond every caring parents worse nightmare, and my
parents did care and want to do the right thing very much.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that when you try to stop kids doing
certain things, if you do it the wrong way you can wind up driving them
toward it. Dragon's Dragon is a classic example - he says his parents
don't want him reading this NG - he is not only reading it, but a bunch
of porno ones as well.
I'm not advocating letting 'em do stuff at will, just methods that are
more effective than simply banning things. But if you do choose to ban
stuff, you'd better make sure the ban is effective - ie you're going to
have to monitor the situation closely, and not rely on screaming "Don't
post this - I don't want my kid reading it"
Pix!
> The problem was - that by stopping me doing something like reading
> normal books, it drove me to hide anything and everything I read (and
> did for that matter), so I read indiscriminately and without supervision
> or input. Not to mention stealing money to buy the books....
And that's why I thought it was so scary.
James McGuigan
> In article <wmQB5.5893$uq5.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
> > > *cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
> > > for "send me spam"?
> >
> > No, just publicly stating your e-mail address is the universal sign for send me spam.
> >
> > Hotmail is for those who can't be bothered to set up OE properly, or want to have a spam decoy
> > address for filling out web forms.
>
> of whiners who try to use our servers as censors. I try to obey the
> rules of the road when it comes to OT and cross posting, which brings me
> to the question - how tight are you about off-topic in .stars? Whilst
> it's nice to chat on occasion, I don't want to outstay my welcome.
No, we don't mind OT threads too much, though we did gat a little fed up of one thread, but only
after it hit the 1000 post mark.
We are a pretty easy going bunch, and though we don't go as OT as you lot, we don't mind really
about OT threads if there is enough stuff on topic to balance it out. And forutantely stars has
enough depth that we can still fill an NG with with.
And the only other reason I can think of for a hotmail account is when you to hide your identy but
still comunicate. Which can have it's place in stars deplomacy.
James McGuigan
This is one of the real tests of free speach, or a persons belief in it,
It's not just defending a the right to speak what you believe in, but will you allow or even defend
the right of someone to say somthing that you disagree with.
I think the main trouble is that the net (especally usenet) has created a society or enviorment
where there can be not discrimination based on anything but your own ideas. And that the only bounds
to a persons freedom is what he knows. And that a person is not bound by any rules. Which is very
close to to Martin Luther King's dream.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be
judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"
Here we have each person is known only by the name they give, and the ideas they comunicate. A
person's age, sex, race, social status, wealth or any other outside variables are not seen and only
known about if comunicated. All men are created equal here, and free speach cannot be controled.
And this flys in the face of any rules based or dependant upon a person's age, sex, race, social
status, wealth or any other outside variables. And thus we have anarchy, but in a form that is self
surviving and doesn't actually degenerate into chaos. And this flys in the face of anyone who is
trying to impose rules and orders on others.
Claus Dragon
that...
>> *cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
>> for "send me spam"?
>
>No, just publicly stating your e-mail address is the universal sign for send me spam.
>
not allow that.
--
Claus Dragon
d++ e+ n+ t-- U12!3!4567!SUA u++ uc++
http://run.to/rocknroll
-ever get the feeling you have been cheated?-
john lydon
Claus Dragon
>On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:12:15 -0500, MdmeDis <mdm...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <vmQB5.5892$uq5.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>>Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
>>
>>> little anoyed when you lot try to cut us out of a thread resulting from a spam on our NG.
>>
>>more. :(
>>>
>>> this vile menace of society, is the only thing that makes this such a menace. If you didn't hide it
>>> or make such a fuss about it, most likely they would wouldn't think that much of it.
>>>
>>> It's only when it is hidden and childeren told it is bad, is when it becomes naughty and childern
>>> start dealving into it, because it is naughty.
>>
>>when it came to such matters. My parents tried to actually stop me
>>reading anything - so by eleven I had read, amongst other things, the
>>complete works of de Sade.
>
>which of us is more fucked up?
>
make me a fascist, right?
Claus Dragon
that...
>> Or was is "doctor"? Or "grown-ups"? Or... oh well, I'm sure that there
>> are many names for it.
>
>There are lots of sadistic (a bit) pre-pubertant girls, this ceases after
>having the real sexual experience.
sadistic pre-pubertant??? i think this is more a post-puberty
phenomenon....
*ducks*
Claus Dragon
christian believe was not exactly my point. the point is: is it more
evil to oppress humans that they can only choose goodness than being a
human who chooses the evil voluntarily?
James McGuigan
news:slrn8tfoes.2v5...@rapunzel.idlepower.net...
> Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
> James McGuigan wrote:
> >"DragonsDragon" <lemmi...@aol.comNoSpam> wrote in message
> >news:20000930104702...@ng-ca1.aol.com...
> >> >BIOS password dude. Make love to it.
> >>
> >> Um....;:cough::
> >> Er....
> >
> >You obviously need a few lessons in how to make love. Because girls can get a little anoyed if
you
> >are not quite sure on what to do.
>
> Hey, calm down! He's only 13! :)
Well he's got plenty of time to learn all the theory then.
> >Maybe you should go find some good demonstrations of how to do it properly on the web.
>
> He can learn from Submersible Dragon and me. :-)
Be careful with statements like that, they could be taken the wrong way. But as a fellow graduate of
Innuendo and Twisting you should be fully aware of that.
> >P.S. How dare you remove rec.games.computer.stars from the cross post list! We would never do
such a
> >thing to the dragons, so please have the same respect for us.
>
> Since Wtcher had so much fun doing it...
>
> Please accept my humble apologies on behalf on the *entire* set of people
> who have ever *looked* at rgcud. A few months ago we got into a
> flamewar with rgcuo because we forgot to snip their group; the
> spam-thread quickly became a love-in that lasted for around a month
> before they yelled at us for the crossposting. :)
I see that start of a usenet feud. So let the games begin.
Maxim S. Shatskih
> particular one seemed to think it was, so I was saying that (s)he'd
> prolly get better results by not trying to hide it or from it.
My opinion is that the good parent must just explain that this is dirt of
the same way as undecent graffiti on the walls (for instance, here in the
house I live some teenagers wrote "Everybody are bitches!" in Russian), but
avoid concentrate the child's attention on the subject.
Adolescents have a strong sexual interest anyway - and increasing it
(especially by parents) is definitely a bad idea.
Max
Maxim S. Shatskih
Lots of 7-13 years girls are fond of playing games where she is a queen or
lady and the boy must obey her in some situation, with some minor physical
punishment for disobeyence.
Communicated some of them (known since childhood) in biologically adult age
of them (>=16) - no sadism at all, rather polite girls, often non-agressive
at all.
Looks like this is another strange thing of pre-pubertant sexuality and the
psychology applied to it.
Max
Wtcher Dragon
James McGuigan wrote:
> > > > *cough* It's a hotmail account, right? Isn't that the universal sign
> > > > for "send me spam"?
> > >
> > > No, just publicly stating your e-mail address is the universal sign for send me spam.
> > >
> > > Hotmail is for those who can't be bothered to set up OE properly, or want to have a spam decoy
> > > address for filling out web forms.
> >
Somebody I knew signed up for a hotmail account and only sent a few
messages to her friends.
After not checking the account for a month, we found that it had >100
spam messages.
Another odd thing was that it kept getting messages from some corporate
CEO over in Taiwan or something... seems that the account existed at one
point prior and...
> > And those of us who prefer not to have to deal with the increasing tide
> > of whiners who try to use our servers as censors. I try to obey the
> > rules of the road when it comes to OT and cross posting, which brings me
> > to the question - how tight are you about off-topic in .stars? Whilst
> > it's nice to chat on occasion, I don't want to outstay my welcome.
>
> No, we don't mind OT threads too much, though we did gat a little fed up of one thread, but only
> after it hit the 1000 post mark.
>
Reminds me of our NET :) (Its been running since Oct.98(?))
> We are a pretty easy going bunch, and though we don't go as OT as you lot, we don't mind really
> about OT threads if there is enough stuff on topic to balance it out. And forutantely stars has
> enough depth that we can still fill an NG with with.
>
> And the only other reason I can think of for a hotmail account is when you to hide your identy but
> still comunicate. Which can have it's place in stars deplomacy.
Out of curiousity (such an annoying thing at times), what do you people
talk about over in .stars?
-WD(not 40 yet)
ciotog
special as Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E6bild?= to put them in this
order:
>Best regards
>Christian, from Denmark
Oh great, now the Christian's are involved in the discussion!
;)
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"Don't be afraid, I only look mean."
ciotog
>Oh great, now the Christian's are involved in the discussion!
>
>;)
btw, I do realize how unoriginal that may have been. I don't care!
It's funny anyway!
haha!
Damocles
wrote:
>>>
>>>Partly, but I remember me at that age. Nothing would've, or did, stop me
>>>when it came to such matters. My parents tried to actually stop me
>>>reading anything - so by eleven I had read, amongst other things, the
>>>complete works of de Sade.
>>
>>I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when I was 12. I wonder
>>which of us is more fucked up?
>>
>i have read parts of hitler愀 "mein kampf". now that does certainly
>make me a fascist, right?
Only if you sing the Horst Wessel song in the shower every morning,
too.
Damocles
wrote:
>In article <ei2hts42u7nesvv11...@4ax.com>,
>phae...@yahoo.com says...
>
>> I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when I was 12. I wonder
>> which of us is more fucked up?
>
>Your point? Or is it just your usual fascination with and compulsion to
>respond to everyone of my posts that has triggered yet another of your
>inane comments?
*shakes head* Just a joke, Dis. Laugh a little, smell those flowers.
Damocles
<maxi...@mtu-net.ru> wrote:
>
>According to xian beliefs, the Evil is a distortion while the Good is the
>correct way as the God planned it.
>The God was able to create the stone too heavy for himself - and this stone
>is the human freedom of will.
>Humans were created as free - free to choose between the correct way and the
>distortions. But this does NOT mean that the distortions are OK.
>Read Tolkien's books - very xian books in the essence, though looking pagan
>(before-xian polytheistic beliefs) from the first sight.
>
> Max
>
Read the Narnia books by CS Lewis for an even heavier christian bent
on this question.
MdmeDis
> > sadistic pre-pubertant??? i think this is more a post-puberty
>
> Lots of 7-13 years girls are fond of playing games where she is a queen or
> lady and the boy must obey her in some situation, with some minor physical
> punishment for disobeyence.
You're not labouring under the misapprehension this changes any, are
you? There may be a vague period of confusion in the teen years, but
once into adulthood any attempt to disguise this as a game is abandoned.
And the punishments are no longer minor. ;)
--
Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Manspeak: "What's wrong?" = I guess sex tonight is out
of the question.
MdmeDis
phae...@yahoo.com says...
Oh well - if you find the fact you think you're fucked up is funny - ha
ha. Better?
AFAIAC, my sig says it all. :)
--
Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Having finally opted for it being the rest of the
Damocles
wrote:
>In article <cvthts0vmg6m4v646...@4ax.com>,
>phae...@yahoo.com says...
>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:27:05 -0500, MdmeDis <mdm...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ei2hts42u7nesvv11...@4ax.com>,
>> >phae...@yahoo.com says...
>> >
>> >> I read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when I was 12. I wonder
>> >> which of us is more fucked up?
>> >
>> >Your point? Or is it just your usual fascination with and compulsion to
>> >respond to everyone of my posts that has triggered yet another of your
>> >inane comments?
>>
>> *shakes head* Just a joke, Dis. Laugh a little, smell those flowers.
>
>Oh well - if you find the fact you think you're fucked up is funny - ha
>ha. Better?
I acknowledge my fucked up-ness and take pride in it.
MdmeDis
> > The problem was - that by stopping me doing something like reading
> > normal books, it drove me to hide anything and everything I read (and
> > did for that matter), so I read indiscriminately and without supervision
> > or input. Not to mention stealing money to buy the books....
>
> And that's why I thought it was so scary.
On the other hand, if you have a kid who *won't* read, it might be worth
forbidding him. :)
James McGuigan
> talk about over in .stars?
>
Well you could come over and have a look, but here are a few topics that have bounced around the NG
recently:
The mechanics of stars - ie the fomulas and such on several areas of the game.
Race design and stratergy especally unusual ones.
Ship design and counterdesign
The feasability of components
How to buy the game Stars (as it's not easily available in the shops on on the web)
The legitamisy of a new bug in the game software (can be used for cheating - as in stealing enemy
colonists)
The realism of stars to real life, namely the fact that there are no multi-planet systems in stars
Discussions on Stars Supernova and various possabilities of how it could/should be and how to relate
real life into it, and suggestions and questions for the Jeffs (the guys who wrote it - and when we
get going it's a virtual ideas factory, but we will have to see if any of it gets included).
Sun Tzu - Art of War (it's a book about stratergy over 2000 years old)
Adverts for new multiplayer games - sometimes sparks a diccussion
How to improve the new rgcs FAQ (it's still in beta!)
The location of a legendary man named Jason Cawly (we are still looking for this legend of stars who
left about 9 months ago) though the question is now tabo after it sparked a 1500+ post thread on
abortion/religion/science/determinism
Utility programs written for stars
And we a bit of a comparison between stars and Space Empires 4
That an the few bits of OT postings usually sprung from on topic posts. And the occasonal flame war,
but they are usually brief.
But now may I ask the same question about .ultima.dragons.
I had a look but all I could see was a sea of off topic posts, and only about one that was on topic.
Well thats if you count having sex with grilled cheese as being OT (though I might be mistaken). And
is there anything left for you guys to diccuss about the ultima series, as unlike stars not a
multiplayer game and has only a finite amount of playability.
Wtcher Dragon
MdmeDis wrote:
> > And that's why I thought it was so scary.
>
> On the other hand, if you have a kid who *won't* read, it might be worth
> forbidding him. :)
You know what's sad? I find most of the world thinks reading is
boring/pointless/waste of time. :(
I prefer reading a good book to... well, pretty much anything else.
MdmeDis
> Chris Schack <tmpm...@trends.net> wrote in message
> news:i4L25clN...@trends.net...
> > >Why not just issue a Usenet Death Sentence against alter.net. It's
> worked
> > >before.
>
> > Is this the same as news.alt.net?
>
> Got me. But a Usenet Death Sentence involves cancelbots generating cancel
> messages for all posts coming from the sentenced domain. Uu.net used to be
> *very* lax about spammers until they got hit by one of these. I hear
> they're much less forgiving of spammers these days. Being effectively
> blocked from Usenet will do that to an ISP...
Yeah - but a UDP isn't exactly easily implemented. Takes months, and
there has to be a general consensus among the majority of newsadmins, or
it won't work.
Xigam
wrote:
>
>You know what's sad? I find most of the world thinks reading is
>boring/pointless/waste of time. :(
Ya, there is nothing quite like that feeling you get when you are
reading a book and some rednecks group behind and say, "Uh Oh, looks
like we got ourselves a reader"... and you immediately are stuck with
the scene from deliverance..
squeal like a piggy!
- Xigam
MdmeDis
Jame...@ntlworld.com says...
Nothing is OT in .dragons as long as a dragon wants to talk about it.
Realize we've had one game released in 6 years, and that was a disaster,
to be kind. So we've bewailed the fact it was going to be awful, played
it discussed it to death several times over, and confirmed that it is a
disaster.
Otherwise, we've expanded from one NG to three (ask the .onliners how
happy they are that we created them - not to mention that 'twas a dragon
who was the lead designer for their game :) - no mean feat, under the
circumstances. The Never Ending Thread is usually game related; several
dragons are doing wondrous things, like allowing a DOS based game to run
in windows, re-making an original apple game in 3D, upgrading music and
graphics for the older games, creating a better version of the last game
and providing patches that make it better (more interesting) to play
There is fan-fic, advice to the love-lorn, pie-hurling, OS discussions,
"what is art" discussion - why did Marxism fail - and the never failing
piracy/copyright outbursts.
MdmeDis
phae...@yahoo.com says...
> >> *shakes head* Just a joke, Dis. Laugh a little, smell those flowers.
> >
> >Oh well - if you find the fact you think you're fucked up is funny - ha
> >ha. Better?
>
> I acknowledge my fucked up-ness and take pride in it.
OooKaay! Not a joke any more then? Just trying to do the appropriate
thing here.... :)
DragonsDragon
>Something, oh anything, would be wittier than this header:
>>Ok.. i think i should clarify my standing here...
>
Did you triple-post on (your) accident, or was it the newsreader or sommat?
>>what i object to is 'Pussy ~! Young GIRLS~! FREE photos!' with the emphesis
>>on the
>>'Young GIRLS' ..
>
>I quite agree. Blatant sexism! Let's have three cheers for
>homosexuality!
>
YEAH!....or something.
>>Frankly i cant see how exposing
>>kids to peadophillia is going to help in thier education ..
>
>You never played "house"?! :o_O
>
>Or was is "doctor"? Or "grown-ups"? Or... oh well, I'm sure that there
>are many names for it.
>
hehehe....I never did....(really!)
>>As for what was on the otherside of the link ..i dont know.. i didnt look..
>>so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
>>possibility was there..
>
>The possibility is always there. www.disney.com
>
You realize Disney is full of perverts.
>>Beleve me.. im hoping the the internet stays a fairly free place.. trouble
>>is with stuff like this flying about on Games boards ..its only adding to
>>the fuel to the fire to censor the whole damn thing.
>
>That would be the ideal solution! Censor the whole thing. Self-censor,
>that is -- if somebody isn't mature enough for the 'net, they stop
>themselves from going on it. Any part of it, including that Maoing
>e-garbage.
Word.
Dragon's Dragon
"Haha, you loser!"
"Maybe you should shut up."
"Maybe you bite me."
"Awww....nuts."
Splut Count: 4
Samurai
>Since Wtcher had so much fun doing it...
>
>Please accept my humble apologies on behalf on the *entire* set of
>people who have ever *looked* at rgcud.
Spherical objects, Mushie. :)
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Samurai
Quoth Submersible Dragon <cs9...@eim.surrey.ac.uk>:
[munch]
>What the world needs now...
>...is a new series of `Minipops`.
Please don't go there, Mershie. Argh.
Samurai
Quoth Wtcher Dragon <wtc...@sprint.ca>:
>MdmeDis wrote:
[munch]
>> Had you said something to the effect of "I'm sorry if comments made
>> by some of this group have made you unhappy" then I would, in all
>> conscience, have had to seethe in silence, because you were
>> expressing your feelings, not apologising for my actions.
>
>Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
It's a matter for your own conscience, really. If you feel that
mending a hurt is more important than stepping on a few toes, then by
all means do it.
>I think I'll just stay silent next time.
Again, it's your decision. :)
*fuzzies for Wtcher*
MdmeDis
Sam...@daisho.prestel.co.uk says...
> Quoth Musash...@home.com (Musashi Dragon):
> >Since Wtcher had so much fun doing it...
> >
> >Please accept my humble apologies on behalf on the *entire* set of
> >people who have ever *looked* at rgcud.
>
> Spherical objects, Mushie. :)
Why does Spherical object? I think he's just whining....
MdmeDis
>
>
> MdmeDis wrote:
>
> > Umm - an apology is an expression of regret for some wrong *you* have
> > committed. You can't apologize for a wrong someone else has done,
> > although you can empathize by expressing your sorrow at his/her
> > unhappiness. Had you said something to the effect of "I'm sorry if
> > comments made by some of this group have made you unhappy" then I would,
> > in all conscience, have had to seethe in silence, because you were
> > expressing your feelings, not apologising for my actions.
>
> Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Neither, really. I was trying to say if you feel sorrow that his
feelings were hurt, and wanted to say that, OK. Not Ok to offer your
apologies for my (perceived) sins. Only I should do that, if I regret
what I said,
> I think I'll just stay silent next
> time.
Owww. Just don't speak for others.
Wtcher Dragon
MdmeDis wrote:
> > Spherical objects, Mushie. :)
>
> Why does Spherical object? I think he's just whining....
*cackles*
Submersible Dragon
DragonsDragon wrote:
> >>As for what was on the otherside of the link ..i dont know.. i didnt
> >>look..
> >>so it could have been a link to Mcdonalds for all i know.. but the
> >>possibility was there..
> >
> >The possibility is always there. www.disney.com
> >
> You realize Disney is full of perverts.
Heh-heh. `Mickey And Minnie Go To Divorce Court`:
"You do realise, Mister Mouse, that your wife's buck-toothedness is not
grounds for divorce under California state law?"
"I didn't *say* she was BUCK-TOOTHED, your honour! I said, `SHE'S
FUCKING GOOFY!`"
-sd.
Submersible Dragon
Samurai wrote:
>
> [RGCUD only]
>
> Quoth Submersible Dragon <cs9...@eim.surrey.ac.uk>:
> [munch]
>
> >What the world needs now...
> >...is a new series of `Minipops`.
>
> Please don't go there, Mershie. Argh.
*wriggles in discomfort*
I wasn't going to go anywhere else with it. If I've upset you - agh, I'm
really sorry, Sammi. I'm not *that* immature. I hope.
I should have kept my mouth shut. :(
-sd.
Submersible Dragon
Submersible Dragon wrote:
>
> Samurai wrote:
> >
> > [RGCUD only]
And thank you for that. It's more than I deserve.
I feel suitably ashamed.
-sd.
Claus Dragon
>In article <8ran9g$1ql2$1...@gavrilo.mtu.ru>, maxi...@mtu-net.ru says...
>> > sadistic pre-pubertant??? i think this is more a post-puberty
>>
>> Lots of 7-13 years girls are fond of playing games where she is a queen or
>> lady and the boy must obey her in some situation, with some minor physical
>> punishment for disobeyence.
>
>You're not labouring under the misapprehension this changes any, are
>you? There may be a vague period of confusion in the teen years, but
>once into adulthood any attempt to disguise this as a game is abandoned.
>And the punishments are no longer minor. ;)
>
>Manspeak: "What's wrong?" = I guess sex tonight is out
>of the question.
oh well, that愀 just too bad...
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Claus Dragon
wrote that...
Claus Dragon
>On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:01:29 GMT, clau...@hotmail.com (Claus Dragon)
>wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>>>Partly, but I remember me at that age. Nothing would've, or did, stop me
>>>>when it came to such matters. My parents tried to actually stop me
>>>>reading anything - so by eleven I had read, amongst other things, the
>>>>complete works of de Sade.
>>>
>>>which of us is more fucked up?
>>>
>>make me a fascist, right?
>
>Only if you sing the Horst Wessel song in the shower every morning,
>too.
>
not a bad one....
Lost Dragon
>> talk about over in .stars?
Stars. More recently, they probably talk about the upcoming Stars:
Supernova.
Stars is a 4x game. 4X games run under the premise that you are a
galactic emperor. You try to expand your empire, develop your
technology and (ultimately) become the supreme ruler of the universe
through diplomacy, war, economic might, or subterfuge. Oh right -
every other race in the universe is trying to do the same thing.
I'm somewhat disappointed with SE4's demo (a different 4x game). It
lacks polish IMO. Supernova, however, still looks promising, although
I must say that MoO 3 is starting to call me.
>But now may I ask the same question about .ultima.dragons.
Ok.
>I had a look but all I could see was a sea of off topic posts, and only about one that was on topic.
Nothing is really off topic in .dragons. It's a social group now
(perhaps) moreso than it ever was. Tempers flair at times, but thus
is the nature of dragons.
>Well thats if you count having sex with grilled cheese as being OT (though I might be mistaken). And
Somebody is having sex with grilled cheese? Where? (sigh) I always
miss the most interesting threads..
>is there anything left for you guys to diccuss about the ultima series, as unlike stars not a
>multiplayer game and has only a finite amount of playability.
The stories have probably been discussed to death, but the fan-fiction
keeps on coming. With multiplayer RPG engines (eg: NWN) coming to
bear, I'm sure we'll see many recreations of Ultima (or very
Ultima-like games) start to filter their way across the net.
So, yes, the series is pretty much defunct as far as I can tell.
Fortunately, the dragons are more fun to play with than the last three
Ultima games put together, so losing our namesake doesn't really
matter much after all. We've become less of a fan club and more of a
social gathering of like-minded people.
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