Ultima V Expert
Cielock Family
I'm on my 5th time playing Ultima V. (I LOVE this game)! If you have
any questions about the game, let me know. I know this game in my
sleep. I can also tell you how to increase your experience points
quickly and how to raid LB's castle to quickly increase your loot.
Yosannah Dragon
Kent Dalton
tech...@cyber2.servtech.com (Cielock Family) writes:
Oh great Ultima sage, I beseech thee for help along my quest, I have
strayed from the U5 path and am now just attempting trod it again! (A
little buttering up never hurts. ;)
I just restarted playing U5 from an old save game where I think I was
about half way through. My karma in the game is *really* low (it's
like thirtysomething , I can't even remember what I did to get it
down so much, I think I stole from somewhere (I have tons of
gold)). Is there any way I can get my karma high again rapidly? I've
tried donating money to the shrines etc, but that only gives a couple
of K points and it's going to take forever at this rate. Should I
just start over or what?
I also am having trouble with low experience. I get really tired of
excessive combat in the Ultima games (Dunno if 6+ have this prob,
I've only played 1-4, I'm trying to do them in order and am stuck on
5 right now...) so I'm fairly far along the quest path, but my
characters are relatively weak. Any advice on avoiding
Finally, can you go on more than one shrine quest at once? It doesn't
seem like you can to me... ie it seems like only the most recent one
has effect.
Thanks for any tips!
Robert S. Gregg
Cielock Family <tech...@cyber2.servtech.com> wrote in article
<5bhbsh$p...@post.servtech.com>...
> I'm on my 5th time playing Ultima V. (I LOVE this game)! If you have
> any questions about the game, let me know.
Okay, Mr. Expert. Tell me what the deal is with Dupre' and the duck!
(Hey, if he can answer this one, I really -will- be impressed. :)
--
Underworld Dragon
http://www.scott.net/~rgregg/ultima/
Yosannah Dragon
Kent Dalton <ke...@megadeth.co.symbios.com> wrote:
>tech...@cyber2.servtech.com (Cielock Family) writes:
>>
>> I'm on my 5th time playing Ultima V. (I LOVE this game)! If you have
>> any questions about the game, let me know. I know this game in my
>> sleep. I can also tell you how to increase your experience points
>> quickly and how to raid LB's castle to quickly increase your loot.
>>
>> Yosannah Dragon
>>
>Oh great Ultima sage, I beseech thee for help along my quest, I have
>strayed from the U5 path and am now just attempting trod it again! (A
>little buttering up never hurts. ;)
>I just restarted playing U5 from an old save game where I think I was
>about half way through. My karma in the game is *really* low (it's
>like thirtysomething , I can't even remember what I did to get it
>down so much, I think I stole from somewhere (I have tons of
>gold)). Is there any way I can get my karma high again rapidly? I've
>tried donating money to the shrines etc, but that only gives a couple
>of K points and it's going to take forever at this rate. Should I
>just start over or what?
Not really sure what you mean by "Karma". If you "stray from the path
of the Avitar", don't worry about it. It won't effect your ability to
save LB. Donating money to the shrines does nothing.
>I also am having trouble with low experience. I get really tired of
>excessive combat in the Ultima games (Dunno if 6+ have this prob,
>I've only played 1-4, I'm trying to do them in order and am stuck on
>5 right now...) so I'm fairly far along the quest path, but my
>characters are relatively weak. Any advice on avoiding
The best way to raise experience quickly, is to go into the Dungeon
Deceit. Upon entering Level 1, turn around 180 degrees and search for
the secret door. Go down this ladder to Level 2. Here you will see a
fountain (you can drink here to heal). Turn 180 degrees and go down
the ladder to Level 3. You will enter a room with daemons, so make
sure you are wearing invisibility rings. Kill them off and take the
ladder down, beyond the blue forcefield. When you approach it, a part
of it will open. Go down the ladder to Level 4. Take this ladder
down to Level 5. View a gem. There is only one ladder to take down
to Level 6. View a gem and you will see a hidden pit in the middle of
the level. Fall into it down to Level 8. Open the chest. Climb up
to Level 7. Search for a secret door here. This is the room with 2
Dragons and 3 daemons. Kill all but one daemon and open the Dragon's
chests. This is very useful in obtaining invisible rings. You will
need an abundance of invisible rings for the end game. MAKE SURE YOU
LEAVE ONE DAEMON ALIVE. You must wear invisible rings when entering
this room. By leaving one daemon alive, you can exit the room after
looting it and return to find it stocked with monsters and loot again.
This will quickly raise your experience points and get you all the
loot you'll need.
>Finally, can you go on more than one shrine quest at once? It doesn't
>seem like you can to me... ie it seems like only the most recent one
>has effect.
Nope. Only one shrine at a time......(Don't you hate that?) Try to
remember the shrine's quest you are on. I forgot once and had to go
to each one again. AARRRGGGHHHH.
PS: When entering Doom, it is best to take these characters with you:
Mariah
Johne
Sentri
Katrina
And "YOU" of course
>Thanks for any tips!
Yosannah Dragon
Chinh Nguyen
In article <5bmq1b$s...@post.servtech.com>,
Yosannah Dragon <mcie...@servtech.com> wrote:
>Not really sure what you mean by "Karma". If you "stray from the path
>of the Avitar", don't worry about it. It won't effect your ability to
>save LB. Donating money to the shrines does nothing.
It should, though I've never encountered problems...
[snip]
Awful complicated, isn't that? Actually, any room with four or more
dragons works perfectly fine. The best room is probably in Covetous,
actually, on the 6th level. Just make sure the Avatar is the only one.
This room in the southwestern corner of the dungeon has goodies _besides_
the dragons, as well, like potions and scrolls. And it has five dragons
and one daemon, if memory serves, meaning 125 exp. points per visit.
The best way to get experience, of course, is at the top of Blackthorn's
castle.
>Nope. Only one shrine at a time......(Don't you hate that?) Try to
>remember the shrine's quest you are on. I forgot once and had to go
>to each one again. AARRRGGGHHHH.
Why? If you're on a quest, just go to the Codex and it'll TELL you which
one you're on.
>PS: When entering Doom, it is best to take these characters with you:
>
>Mariah
>Johne
>Sentri
>Katrina
>And "YOU" of course
Why them? Anything works reasonably well, and you really only need one
fighter. In fact, it is advantageous to have only one fighter, so that
you have a constant supply of magic.
--
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"There is nothing to be altered, nothing to regret for a sensible man. It
////////is simply a matter of carrying on and keeping one's head above////
////////water." -- Johannes Brahms///////chin...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu//////
Scott Silbernagel
> > The best way to raise experience quickly, is to go into the Dungeon
> > Deceit. Upon entering Level 1, turn around 180 degrees and search for
> > the secret door. Go down this ladder to Level 2. Here you will see a
> > fountain (you can drink here to heal). Turn 180 degrees and go down
> > the ladder to Level 3. You will enter a room with daemons, so make
> > sure you are wearing invisibility rings.
>
You can buy them in Buccaneer's Den.
--
Scratchy Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
Kent Dalton
mcie...@servtech.com (Yosannah Dragon) writes:
>
> Kent Dalton <ke...@megadeth.co.symbios.com> wrote:
>
> >I just restarted playing U5 from an old save game where I think I was
> >about half way through. My karma in the game is *really* low (it's
> >like thirtysomething , I can't even remember what I did to get it
> >down so much, I think I stole from somewhere (I have tons of
> >gold)). Is there any way I can get my karma high again rapidly? I've
> >tried donating money to the shrines etc, but that only gives a couple
> >of K points and it's going to take forever at this rate. Should I
> >just start over or what?
>
> Not really sure what you mean by "Karma". If you "stray from the path
> of the Avitar", don't worry about it.
My understanding of 'Karma' in U5: When you hit CTRL-K the game prints a
numeric value in the message area indicating your karma score which ranges
from 0-99 indicating just how 'avataresque' you've been behaving. Mine is
currently '30'
> It won't effect your ability to save LB.
Really? I thought many people wouldn't talk to you, join the party, etc
if the Avatar behaved badly.
So can I really be as bad as I wanna be? }:-)
> Donating money to the shrines does nothing.
Aside from raise your Karma. ;) You can watch it go up by checking before and
after a donation.
> The best way to raise experience quickly, is to go into the Dungeon
> Deceit. Upon entering Level 1, turn around 180 degrees and search for
> the secret door. Go down this ladder to Level 2. Here you will see a
> fountain (you can drink here to heal). Turn 180 degrees and go down
> the ladder to Level 3. You will enter a room with daemons, so make
> sure you are wearing invisibility rings.
Where can I get invisibility rings? I think I have like 1 or 2.
> >Finally, can you go on more than one shrine quest at once? It doesn't
> >seem like you can to me... ie it seems like only the most recent one
> >has effect.
>
> Nope. Only one shrine at a time......(Don't you hate that?) Try to
> remember the shrine's quest you are on. I forgot once and had to go
> to each one again. AARRRGGGHHHH.
Major drag isn't it?
> Yosannah Dragon
>
>
Thanks for the advice/tips!!
Dan Fabulich
Kent Dalton wrote:
> My understanding of 'Karma' in U5: When you hit CTRL-K the game prints a
> numeric value in the message area indicating your karma score which ranges
> from 0-99 indicating just how 'avataresque' you've been behaving. Mine is
> currently '30'
That's rather low. :) I'd reccomend taking your magic carpet to Cove,
donating money to the temple there, and then donating money to the
shrine of compassion to the west. Repeat ad nauseum.
The fastest way to increase your karma is to complete the shrine quests,
but I take it you've already used those up.
> Really? I thought many people wouldn't talk to you, join the party, etc
> if the Avatar behaved badly.
That's actually true. The people are relatively few, and you CAN still
rescue LB without their help, but certain information which is
critical to beating the game (most notably the Words of Power) won't
be revealed to you if you've been a naughty Avatar.
> So can I really be as bad as I wanna be? }:-)
On the other hand, if you already know the Words of Power and how to
find all the important artifacts in the game, you could be Mondain
himself and still rescue the king. I don't think the game will stop
you from winning, though I've never really tried it.
> Where can I get invisibility rings? I think I have like 1 or 2.
Buy them. Try Buccaneer's Den, I think, at the guild.
-He who laughs last thinks slowest-
dAN the Gloaming Dragon
Yosannah Dragon
"Robert S. Gregg" <rgr...@scott.net> wrote:
>Cielock Family <tech...@cyber2.servtech.com> wrote in article
><5bhbsh$p...@post.servtech.com>...
>> I'm on my 5th time playing Ultima V. (I LOVE this game)! If you have
>> any questions about the game, let me know.
>Okay, Mr. Expert. Tell me what the deal is with Dupre' and the duck!
>(Hey, if he can answer this one, I really -will- be impressed. :)
>--
>Underworld Dragon
>http://www.scott.net/~rgregg/ultima/
As far as I know, it's simply a food supply. If there is some
underlying meaning...then you got me. When you give Dupre 5 gp, he
says" enjoy the duck" which gives you one unit of food. Probably an
inside joke at Origin.
Jacob Holcomb
Yosannah Dragon <mcie...@servtech.com> wrote in article
<5buicb$k...@post.servtech.com>...
I believe I can answer this one. It is sort of an inside SCA joke.
Shamino and Dupre and Company often sold "ducks" at SCA events. There is
also an amusing antecdote about how Dupre/Shamino challenged ALL
lightfighters at an SCA tournament to a duel which is slightly related. I
will attempt to recall the anecdote on request.
Byzantine Dragon
Jacob Holcomb
jlh...@jove.acs.unt.edu
Robert S. Gregg
Jacob Holcomb <jlh...@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote in article
<01bc0687$95cfb3a0$16327881@JacobHolcomb>...
> > "Robert S. Gregg" <rgr...@scott.net> wrote:
> > Tell me what the deal is with Dupre' and the duck!
>
> Shamino and Dupre and Company often sold "ducks" at SCA events.
So what were these 'ducks' anyway?
> There is
> also an amusing antecdote about how Dupre/Shamino challenged ALL
> lightfighters at an SCA tournament to a duel which is slightly related. I
> will attempt to recall the anecdote on request.
Request! Request!! :)
I assume this is the "embarrassing incident" referred to by Iolo in U6 and U7?
Christopher D. Daniels
In article <5boblu$h...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>,
chin...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Chinh Nguyen) wrote:
>In article <5bmq1b$s...@post.servtech.com>,
>Yosannah Dragon <mcie...@servtech.com> wrote:
>
>>Not really sure what you mean by "Karma". If you "stray from the path
>>of the Avitar", don't worry about it. It won't effect your ability to
>>save LB. Donating money to the shrines does nothing.
>
>It should, though I've never encountered problems...
>
>[snip]
>
>Awful complicated, isn't that? Actually, any room with four or more
>dragons works perfectly fine. The best room is probably in Covetous,
>actually, on the 6th level. Just make sure the Avatar is the only one.
>This room in the southwestern corner of the dungeon has goodies _besides_
>the dragons, as well, like potions and scrolls. And it has five dragons
>and one daemon, if memory serves, meaning 125 exp. points per visit.
>
>The best way to get experience, of course, is at the top of Blackthorn's
>castle.
>
>>Nope. Only one shrine at a time......(Don't you hate that?) Try to
>>remember the shrine's quest you are on. I forgot once and had to go
>>to each one again. AARRRGGGHHHH.
>
>Why? If you're on a quest, just go to the Codex and it'll TELL you which
>one you're on.
>
>>PS: When entering Doom, it is best to take these characters with you:
>>
>>Mariah
>>Johne
>>Sentri
>>Katrina
>>And "YOU" of course
>
>Why them? Anything works reasonably well, and you really only need one
>fighter. In fact, it is advantageous to have only one fighter, so that
>you have a constant supply of magic.
>--
>//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>"There is nothing to be altered, nothing to regret for a sensible man. It
>////////is simply a matter of carrying on and keeping one's head above////
>////////water." -- Johannes Brahms///////chin...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu//////
Actually, I thought Johne WAS a mage. Oh, and by the way, who is the
missing character? I always try to keep 6 in the party. My usual party
consists of:
Myself
Dupre
Shamino
Iolo
Mariah
Jaana
This gives me 3.5 magic users, and 2 decent fighters. Alternately, I might
take Geoffrey instead of Shamino. I like these characters as they were part
of my U4 adventuring team. Of course, taking SADUJ, placing him second, and
and getting caught in Blackthorne's Castle is also fun.....
Money Dragon
Chinh Nguyen
In article <5c7ukf$c...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,
Christopher D. Daniels <moneydr.@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Actually, I thought Johne WAS a mage. Oh, and by the way, who is the
>missing character? I always try to keep 6 in the party. My usual party
>consists of:
Thing is, as far as I now, the only difference between fighters and mages
in U5 are the starting stats. And by far, the most important stat in the
game is dexterity. Strength (which fighters have alot of), grows more and
more meaningless, as you probably won't be carrying around stuff like
halberds and plate-mail. So the best party, IMHO, has two mages, two
bards, and one fighter, giving you 4 spellcasters, in effect. In
dungeons, just have one person cast VAS MANI on the fighter while everyone
else rests for 8 hours. There really is no ultimate advantage to having
more than one fighter.
Reallow
Why bother fighters? All you need is MAGIC in Ultima V!!
Here is the list of my party:
Avatar
Iolo
Julia(or Toshi(I forgot the spelling;you know, the lv. 1 bard)
Jaana
Mariah
Johne
As long as you have magic axes, fighter is not necessary in your party,
IMO.
Reallow
Andrew Toth
az...@lafn.org (Reallow) wrote:
Ummm...yeah. But thats considered fighting. Its not like yer casting
spells or anything.
I myself have
Avatar
Shamino
Iolo
Gwenno
Gorn
Johne
They all have Magic Axes. Magic Shields, Mystic Armor, Amulets Of
Turning, Iron Helms. But I hardly use spells. So it really doesn't
matter who your party members are. Your Avatar's a Magic-User and
thats all you need for magic. Of course, you might want to take along
one magic-user just in case. The rest of your party maybe can be
anyone.
This sort've begs the question. Which hits more regulary, a Magic
Axe, or a Mystic Sword?
And another question that I've been meaning to ask. Where can I find
about where to get the Shard Of Hatred. I checked Empath Abbey(though
I might've missed something). Anyone know?
Beyowulf
Beyo...@pipeline.com
Steely Blue Dragon Of The -==UDIC==-
Awarded the HNTC Award For Valor During The Battle Of Hallifax
Jani A Heinonen
>>As long as you have magic axes, fighter is not necessary in your party,
>>IMO.
>Ummm...yeah. But thats considered fighting. Its not like yer casting
>spells or anything.
Forgive me for jumping in, but I found fighters extremely handy since
they could easily wield halberds, which make life in many dungeon rooms
much easier. If your Avatar is more of a mage type, he won't get as
strong as your fighter and you'll have to take off all your equipment
before wielding a halberd which can get pretty frustrating.
If I recall correctly, my best party had two mages, two bards, one
fighter and the Avatar. With these it was pretty easy to complete with
level 6 characters. When I later tried with level 8 characters, I found
that the greatest advantage was the extra hitpoints - level 7 and 8
spells were pretty useless.
By the way, in the PC version it is pretty easy to tweak your character
files to give them some extra XP's.
>And another question that I've been meaning to ask. Where can I find
>about where to get the Shard Of Hatred. I checked Empath Abbey(though
>I might've missed something). Anyone know?
Don't remember, but basically you should be able to figure it out
anyway: each shard can be located via the dungeons connected with the
virtues related to the principle the shard opposes. Your best bet is the
"main" virtue, i.e. the one related only to one principle. I.e.
Falsehood - Honesty, Hatred - Compassion, Cowardice - Valor. Heck, I
forgot the dungeon names. :)
--
Jani Heinonen \/ Current cover story: student of chemistry at the U of H.
jzhe...@rock.helsinki.fi \/ Finger for PGP key if you like your privacy
Christian Mülders
az...@lafn.org (Reallow) wrote:
>As long as you have magic axes, fighter is not necessary in your party,
>IMO.
I would never trade in the AVATARS halberd for a magic axe, cause the
halberd operates in 20' distance. Important in dungeos, becuase you
can attack someone behind a wall (at least in the C64 version it had
been so).
--
Twin Peaks Dragon
Andrew Toth
jzhe...@cc.helsinki.fi (Jani A Heinonen) wrote:
>In <5cc2gu$8...@camel0.mindspring.com> beyo...@pipeline.com (Andrew Toth) writes:
>>>As long as you have magic axes, fighter is not necessary in your party,
>>>IMO.
>>Ummm...yeah. But thats considered fighting. Its not like yer casting
>>spells or anything.
>Forgive me for jumping in, but I found fighters extremely handy since
>they could easily wield halberds, which make life in many dungeon rooms
>much easier. If your Avatar is more of a mage type, he won't get as
>strong as your fighter and you'll have to take off all your equipment
>before wielding a halberd which can get pretty frustrating.
>If I recall correctly, my best party had two mages, two bards, one
>fighter and the Avatar. With these it was pretty easy to complete with
>level 6 characters. When I later tried with level 8 characters, I found
>that the greatest advantage was the extra hitpoints - level 7 and 8
>spells were pretty useless.
>By the way, in the PC version it is pretty easy to tweak your character
>files to give them some extra XP's.
>>And another question that I've been meaning to ask. Where can I find
>>about where to get the Shard Of Hatred. I checked Empath Abbey(though
>>I might've missed something). Anyone know?
>Don't remember, but basically you should be able to figure it out
>anyway: each shard can be located via the dungeons connected with the
>virtues related to the principle the shard opposes. Your best bet is the
>"main" virtue, i.e. the one related only to one principle. I.e.
>Falsehood - Honesty, Hatred - Compassion, Cowardice - Valor. Heck, I
>forgot the dungeon names. :)
I thought that would work since the Shard Of Falsehood is under
Deceit. But the Shard Of Cowardice is under Hythloth. I've already
been down Destard, (found the LB's Amulet there BTW) and I've already
been down Despise as well. Found Captain Johne there but no Shard Of
Hatred.
Interesting note, managed to get both Shards of Cowardice and Deceit
by only going down Hythloth. How thats for shrewd use of In Por?
Christopher Jones
Chinh Nguyen wrote:
>
> Thing is, as far as I now, the only difference between fighters and mages
> in U5 are the starting stats. And by far, the most important stat in the
> game is dexterity. Strength (which fighters have alot of), grows more and
> more meaningless, as you probably won't be carrying around stuff like
> halberds and plate-mail. So the best party, IMHO, has two mages, two
> bards, and one fighter, giving you 4 spellcasters, in effect.
Actually, I prefer to have NO fighters, except maybe Geoffrey, but just
for old times' sake. Since the Avatar is, in effect, and mage/fighter.
For maximum spell strength, take:
The Avatar, Johne, Mariah : 100% spell strength
Iolo, Gwenno : 75% spell strength
Shamino : 50% spell strength
That way, all 6 slots are filled up, and you have MAJOR spell power.
You can also dump Shamino and pick up Jaana if you like to increase
spell power, but Shamino is too cool to dump off somewhere.
Just my 2 cents
Chris
SpitFire Dragon
clj...@engr.latech.edu
Winkler Devere Bond
In <5cr4cv$c...@vesuri.Helsinki.FI> jzhe...@cc.helsinki.fi (Jani A
Heinonen) writes:
>
>In <5cei89$j...@camel4.mindspring.com> beyo...@pipeline.com (Andrew
Toth) writes:
>
>>I thought that would work since the Shard Of Falsehood is under
>>Deceit. But the Shard Of Cowardice is under Hythloth.
>
>(Truth+Courage). So it is no surprise that it is found there. One
thing
>I like about Britannia is that everything is so consistent.
How is Trinsic realted to Hythloth!? Hythloth was supposed to be the
reverse of either spirituality or humility....Shame is the reverse of
Honor....
-Ophidian Dragon
Chinh Nguyen
In article <32EDC5...@engr.latech.edu>,
Christopher Jones <clj...@engr.latech.edu> wrote:
>Actually, I prefer to have NO fighters, except maybe Geoffrey, but just
>for old times' sake. Since the Avatar is, in effect, and mage/fighter.
Thing is, there is no difference between a mage and an avatar class, save
the icon. I suggest a fighter only because if you want to hole up with
someone on watch, and you have all mages, you're stuck with 1 character
who won't get his mp back.
Christopher Jones
Christopher D. Daniels wrote:
>
> Only one problem, here. Shamino is classed a Fighter, having NO magic
> power. For Ultimate Magic Power (tm mine:) take the following:
>
> Yourself
> Johne
> Mariah
> Jaana
> I can't think of any more Mages, but Iolo and Gwenno have 50% power.
>
My mistake. I haven't played U5 in ages, and forgot that the 8 classes
had been "absorbed" into 3 main classes.
Chris
SpitFire Dragon
clj...@engr.latech.edu
Christopher D. Daniels
>Chinh Nguyen wrote:
>>
>> Thing is, as far as I now, the only difference between fighters and mages
>> in U5 are the starting stats. And by far, the most important stat in the
>> game is dexterity. Strength (which fighters have alot of), grows more
and
>> more meaningless, as you probably won't be carrying around stuff like
>> halberds and plate-mail. So the best party, IMHO, has two mages, two
>> bards, and one fighter, giving you 4 spellcasters, in effect.
>
>Actually, I prefer to have NO fighters, except maybe Geoffrey, but just
>for old times' sake. Since the Avatar is, in effect, and mage/fighter.
>For maximum spell strength, take:
>
> The Avatar, Johne, Mariah : 100% spell strength
> Iolo, Gwenno : 75% spell strength
> Shamino : 50% spell strength
>
>That way, all 6 slots are filled up, and you have MAJOR spell power.
>You can also dump Shamino and pick up Jaana if you like to increase
>spell power, but Shamino is too cool to dump off somewhere.
>
>Just my 2 cents
>
>Chris
>SpitFire Dragon
>clj...@engr.latech.edu
>
Only one problem, here. Shamino is classed a Fighter, having NO magic
power. For Ultimate Magic Power (tm mine:) take the following:
Yourself
Johne
Mariah
Jaana
I can't think of any more Mages, but Iolo and Gwenno have 50% power.
Money Dragon
Christopher D. Daniels
In article <5cr4cv$c...@vesuri.Helsinki.FI>,
jzhe...@cc.helsinki.fi (Jani A Heinonen) wrote:
>In <5cei89$j...@camel4.mindspring.com> beyo...@pipeline.com (Andrew Toth)
writes:
>
>>I thought that would work since the Shard Of Falsehood is under
>>Deceit. But the Shard Of Cowardice is under Hythloth.
>
>Well, Hytloth is the dungeon related to Trinsic, the towne of Honor
>(Truth+Courage). So it is no surprise that it is found there. One thing
>I like about Britannia is that everything is so consistent.
>
>As I said, the dungeon related to the main virtue is your best bet, but
>not necessarily the only one.
>--
Actually, I thought the opposite of Honor was SHAME, at least it is in U4.
Here is the list, as I see it:
Honesty-Moonglow-Deceit
Compassion-Britain-Despise
Valor-Jhelom-Destard
Justice-Yew-Wrong
Sacrifice-Minoc-Covetous
Honor-Trinsic-Shame
Spirituality-Skara Brae-Hythloth
Humility-New Magincia-Pride
There is no Dungeon for Pride. This implies it cannot be conquered from
without. The battle of Humility and Pride is an inner battle. Commonly,
people claim the Final Dungeon as opposite Humility. Perhaps we should
start a discussion on it.
Money Dragon