Cyrix 6X86 and Quake
Luc Gaudreault
Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
Can anyone comment on this?
Luc Gaudreault
Luc Gaudreault
Never mind, i did a bit of research and found this page
http://www.cam.org/~agena/quake.html
It seems that a P166+ has the same FPU power as a Pentium 90, so that would
put the P150+ in the league of the Pentium 75.
So my friend was right, too bad i was under the impression that difference
was much smaller.
My previous post...
sirus
Easy - Quake relies heavily upon the fpu. Intel's fpu is faster than
cyrix. point blank.
Luc Gaudreault <lu...@microtempus.com> wrote in article
<01bb83b4$c2826ce0$063e...@LUCG.microtempus.com>...
> Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
> Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
> Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
> that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
>
> I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
> seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
>
Super Dave
On 6 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT, "Luc Gaudreault" <lu...@microtempus.com>
wrote:
>Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
>Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
>Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
>that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
>
>I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
>seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
>
>Can anyone comment on this?
Yeah, the Cyrix FPU is way slower than the P's. It's funny, cause my
friend told me he got a P166, but when I went over to his house, he
ran quake for me, and it was crawling, even at vid_mode 0!
He's got 32megs and a stealth-3D, and that didn't help.
The Lord Leto II
In article <4u8r3a$o...@hyperimage.com> mac...@hyperimage.com (Super Dave) writes:
>On 6 Aug 1996 16:29:43 GMT, "Luc Gaudreault" <lu...@microtempus.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
>>Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
>>Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
>>that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
>>
>>I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
>>seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
>>
>>Can anyone comment on this?
>
> Yeah, the Cyrix FPU is way slower than the P's. It's funny, cause my
>friend told me he got a P166, but when I went over to his house, he
I assume you mean a Cyrix P166+. You should be more clear.
>ran quake for me, and it was crawling, even at vid_mode 0!
>He's got 32megs and a stealth-3D, and that didn't help.
The Stealth-3D didn't help much at all. Quake doesn't support
it, and it's not the fastest video card.
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In article <07AUG96.04...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>, The Lord Leto
II <T9...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> writes
>>friend told me he got a P166, but when I went over to his house, he
>
>I assume you mean a Cyrix P166+. You should be more clear.
>
phoned up and said "hey, i've got a P166, come and take a look!" so he
ran round only to discover it was actually a Cyrix 6x86.
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Brian A. English
On 6 Aug 1996, Luc Gaudreault wrote:
> Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
> Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
> Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
> that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
>
> I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
> seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
>
> Can anyone comment on this?
>
Oh no, now look what you've done! :) Oh, well, guess I'll add my $.02...
My Pentium 75 with 16 megs EDO, and onboard Cirrus Logic 5434 gets better
framerates on the Quake benchmarks page than a Cyrix 6x86 running at 120
mhz. I get 13.6 fps at the very start, full screen, vid_mode 0... and the
Cyrix was rated at 11.1 fps or something... The difference?
Everybody now... :)
THE FPU!
Cyrix's appear to be rather substandard compared to a Pentium's... read
comp.sys.ibm.pc.chips and watch the fun; the Cyrix vs. Pentium debates!
That's why I ordered a Pentium 133 chip Monday. When I get home later;
I'll install it and hopefully be able to laugh at 6x86 P166+'s... :)
Disclaimer: I'll be laughing at the chip, not its users! What do I
know; I bought a Packard Bell... :)
> Luc Gaudreault
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The Lord Leto II
In article <01bb83b4$c2826ce0$063e...@LUCG.microtempus.com> "Luc Gaudreault" <lu...@microtempus.com> writes:
>Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
>Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
>Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
>that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
Yes, the Cyrix has a *very* weak FPU, though in integer calculations
it is capable.
>I know Quake is supposed to be optimized for Intel Pentium but it still
>seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
Who do you believe more, a company's hype or your friend?
Adam Williamson
In article <08AUG96.02...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>, The Lord Leto
II <T9...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> writes
>Who do you believe more, a company's hype or your friend?
>
spam
In article <01bb83b4$c2826ce0$063e...@LUCG.microtempus.com>, Luc Gaudreault,
(lu...@microtempus.com) babbles...
>
>Just a simple question: Someone at work bought a Cyrix 6x86 P150+, played
>Quake on it, for a certain reason exchanged the Cyrix P150+ for an Intel
>Pentium 120Mhz and he told me that Quake is much faster on the Intel 120
>that it was on the Cyrix. Is that possible?
>
>seems a bit of a stretch that the performance change could be this great.
>
thats because cyrix /amd 586/686 cpus have the fpu of a 486... very slow
the intel pentium has a much faster fpu than either of them
the connection is that quake uses alot of fpu.. in fact quake wont even run on
a processor that doesnt have fpu (486sx/386 w/o a co-pro/nexgen 586 etc...)
spam
Bill Krause
Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> In article <08AUG96.02...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>, The Lord Leto
> II <T9...@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> writes
> >Who do you believe more, a company's hype or your friend?
> >
> Depends on the friend. :)
Depends also on the Company.
Bill Krause
Bill_...@ccm.ssd.intel.com