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Mike Vance

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Mar 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/7/97
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I keep trying to find out if GLQuake will work on NT 4.0; officially the
stance appears to be no, even in the GLQuake zipped documents they state
that it only works on Win95 and that an NT version is forthcoming.
However, in the document at
http://www.io.com/~cwagner/quake3d.html
there appears the statement concerning the Matrox Millenium card:

"...only has OpenGL support for Windows NT 3.51
(which does not run GLQuake). They claim to have
OpenGL drivers for Win95 and Windows NT 4
in development..."

As a frustrated NT 4.0 user I keep trying to misconstrue this sentence as
meaning that NT 3.51 will not run GLQuake but that NT 4.0 will. Perhaps
I'm just grasping at straws. Is there anyone out there that has managed to
get GLQuake running on NT 4.0? If so, what card are you using? What kind
of performance are you getting? My eyes are *dying* for some eye-popping
3D graphics on one of these Voodoo boards such as Monster 3D or Righteous
3D. I'm dying . . . . dying . . . S.O.S. . . . mayday. Help!


Saufer

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Mar 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/7/97
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Bryan Westhafer wrote:
>
> I have gotten GLQuake to run on NT 4.0. I am using a Matrox Millenium 4
> meg card. I have a beta of Direct3D installed for NT 4.0. GLQuake will
> run with this configuration, but the frame rate is less than 1 frame/sec.
> It is not playable by any means but It gives you an idea of what GLQuake
> looks like. I am having a hard time locating a graphics card that will
> work in NT (as far as excelleration of OpenGL and Direct3D) that is in a
> price range of under $500.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Bryan
>
> Mike Vance <star...@telis.org> wrote in article
> <01bc2b0c$fba15ef0$3951d8cc@mike>...
A little off the subject I know, but please help if you can. I just
bought a nice new computer with an STB Lightspeed 128 video card. Quake
ran alright (13 fps at 360x400), but I wanted better, so I went back an
paid the extra dough to upgrade to the new STB Velocity 3D with 4 megs
of VRAM...my reseller recommended this card and PCWorld gave it the
number one rating in their top 10 vid cards test.

To make a long story short, Quake now runs SLOWER (12.3 fps at 360x400)
and I'm not getting as many video options as before...only to like
360x480 instead of all the way up to 12xx*10xx (whatever that was).
I've heard that in order to run a souped up version of Quake, enabling
me to hit rates of around 22-24 fps, I need a "virtie" or something
compatible card. I've emailed idgames and STB, but haven't received an
answer. As far as I know, the Velocity only supports DirectD. Is there
some souped version of DirectD Quake? Am I just screwed at this point?
Any help would be appreciated and BTW I'm running Quake under DOS, but
could possibley run under Win95 if I had to. Thank you very much.
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Bryan Westhafer

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Mar 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/8/97
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DeadDred

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Mar 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/9/97
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On Fri, 07 Mar 1997 23:40:42 -0700, Saufer <sau...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>To make a long story short, Quake now runs SLOWER (12.3 fps at 360x400)
>and I'm not getting as many video options as before...only to like
>360x480 instead of all the way up to 12xx*10xx (whatever that was).
>I've heard that in order to run a souped up version of Quake, enabling
>me to hit rates of around 22-24 fps, I need a "virtie" or something
>compatible card. I've emailed idgames and STB, but haven't received an
>answer. As far as I know, the Velocity only supports DirectD. Is there
>some souped version of DirectD Quake? Am I just screwed at this point?
>Any help would be appreciated and BTW I'm running Quake under DOS, but
>could possibley run under Win95 if I had to. Thank you very much.

If you want the best, buy a 3dfx based card - Orchid Righteous 3d, or
Diamond Monster 3d. Then you can play GLQuake, and get framerates of
20-40 (depending on your processor) at 640x480 with alpha blending.

DeadDred

Jerry K. La Peer

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Mar 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/9/97
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Bryan Westhafer wrote:

Hope this helps,
Bryan

Have you tried Diablo under nt 4.0? Awesome, and by the way I have the
Millenium with 4mb of ram and it works great. This is not to detract
from quake.


Nick Darlington

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Mar 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/9/97
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Jerry K. La Peer <jla...@mc.net> wrote in article
<3322D8...@mc.net>...

> Have you tried Diablo under nt 4.0? Awesome, and by the way I have the
> Millenium with 4mb of ram and it works great. This is not to detract
> from quake.

Diablo is bit of a strange game.. a work machine is only a P100 with a
standard PCI graphics card in it and a crappy ESS688 sound card, and that
too runs Diablo fine (ie, fast and smoothly) without any DirectX supporting
hardware.. well designed game perhaps..

Nick


Victor Jimenez

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Mar 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/11/97
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Bryan Westhafer wrote:

Hope this helps,
Bryan

I've been talking to the people at Diamond and Orchid and so far,
nobody has committed to writing a GL driver for NT for either of the
cards.

The only cards that appear to work on NT are the professional OpenGL
rendering cards. A friend suggested the FireGL 1000 from Diamond. The
cost is around $500. He bought one but it hasn't arrived yet. I'll post
the results when he gets it.

Victor


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