toku...@sl.net wrote in message <34657DF7...@sl.net>...
>I am a Quake gamer. I have always considered myself to be okay, but
>then I
>viewed a demo from PC Gamer Mag (Oct. 97) in which a player finished the
>
>entire game in 19 minutes and 49 seconds! He used tactics I had never
>even
>considered in the past, and his use of control was uncanny!
>
>It led me to question the configuration of my own control system:
>keyboard
>only. Arrows for turning and walking, A to jump, ALT to sidestep, CTRL
>to
>fire, PGUP/PGDN to move my view. Is there a better way?
>
>I realize I might have to spend money on a decent joystick, but right
>now
>all I have is a 2-button mouse. Please help me!!!
>
>-The Bleeding Orifice
>
Try:
up/down cursor keys for forward/back
left/right cursor keys for SIDESTEP left/right
CTRL for jump
keypad 0 for force_centerview
mouse to look around (put +mlook into your autoexec.cfg)
mouse button 1 to fire
mouse button 2 to select next weapon
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entire game in 19 minutes and 49 seconds! He used tactics I had never
even
considered in the past, and his use of control was uncanny!
It led me to question the configuration of my own control system:
keyboard
only. Arrows for turning and walking, A to jump, ALT to sidestep, CTRL
to
fire, PGUP/PGDN to move my view. Is there a better way?
I realize I might have to spend money on a decent joystick, but right
now
all I have is a 2-button mouse. Please help me!!!
-The Bleeding Orifice
W - Forward
S - Back
A - Strafe Left
D - Strafe right
Space - Jump
Mouse1 - Fire
Mouse2 - Change
and use +mlook at console. Then use mouse to turn round, look around
fire etc. It works MUCH better than the keyboard once you're used to
it.
TF Players might like to try:
Q - Grenade 1
E - Grenade 2
X - Special
R - Call for medic
U, I, O - Detpacks
K - discard
Well, they work for me :)
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y strafe left
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alt jump
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mouse 1 fire
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toku...@sl.net wrote in article <34657DF7...@sl.net>...
> I am a Quake gamer. I have always considered myself to be okay, but
> then I
> viewed a demo from PC Gamer Mag (Oct. 97) in which a player finished the
>
> entire game in 19 minutes and 49 seconds! He used tactics I had never
> even
> considered in the past, and his use of control was uncanny!
>
> It led me to question the configuration of my own control system:
> keyboard
> only. Arrows for turning and walking, A to jump, ALT to sidestep, CTRL
> to
> fire, PGUP/PGDN to move my view. Is there a better way?
>
> I realize I might have to spend money on a decent joystick, but right
> now
> all I have is a 2-button mouse. Please help me!!!
>
> -The Bleeding Orifice
>
>
>In article <34657DF7...@sl.net>, toku...@sl.net writes
>>I am a Quake gamer. I have always considered myself to be okay, but
>>then I
>>viewed a demo from PC Gamer Mag (Oct. 97) in which a player finished the
>>
>>entire game in 19 minutes and 49 seconds! He used tactics I had never
>>even
>>considered in the past, and his use of control was uncanny!
>>
>>It led me to question the configuration of my own control system:
>>keyboard
>>only. Arrows for turning and walking, A to jump, ALT to sidestep, CTRL
>>to
>>fire, PGUP/PGDN to move my view. Is there a better way?
>>
>>I realize I might have to spend money on a decent joystick, but right
>>now
>>all I have is a 2-button mouse. Please help me!!!
You will always be an "okay" Quake player unless you convert yourself
by praying at the shrine dedicated to the Mouse and KeyBoard combo
(Space-Orb and TrackBall players may take offense at this, BUT this is
just a general statement). I used to be adamant about maintaining a
purely keyboard style, but that was before I discovered Deathmatching.
Let me just say that you WILL be totally and utterly anally-intruded
by even the most marginal of mouse+keyboard players. There is no way
you can aim, both, accurately and rapidly enough in such a fast and
furious environment. In SPQ (Single Player Quake) levels, you have
the luxury of a painfully stupid AI who is both slow and stationary -
which explains why keyboard purists can plod agonizingly through the
levels successfully.
However, if you truly want to immerse yourself in the 3D environment
that iD has created (Thank You!), then I suggest that you port
yourself to the mouse. The learning curve is woefully steep but I can
assure you that the payoff more than makes up for the initial pain.
I suggest completing the Hard and Nightmare levels again as practice
before you try deathmatching. Reaper bots are also a darn good
substitute for the real thing.
>
>W - Forward
>S - Back
>A - Strafe Left
>D - Strafe right
>Space - Jump
>Mouse1 - Fire
>Mouse2 - Change
These are my configurations:
Keypad 8 - Forward
Keypad 5 - Back
Keypad 7 - Strafe Left
Keypad 9 - Strafe Right
Mouse 1 - Fire
Mouse 2 - Weapon Change
Mouse 3 - Jump
Turning and looking actions are executed through the mouse.
I have always wandered why the excellent players out there always use
the main keys on the keyboard (eg, S, D, X , Z etc) instead of the
keypad keys. Anybody with answers?
Lindsay Tan aka
AssMonger
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< = strafe left
> = strafe right
/ = jump
mouse 1 = fire
mouse 2 = move forward
space = move back
+mlook
i also have my X, C, V are set to toggle switch my glquake options...
Ex:
alias plf4 "gl_flashblend 1;a5;echo FLASH BALL ON...;wait;bind C plf3"
alias plf3 "gl_flashblend 0;a5;echo FLASH BALL OFF...;wait;bind C plf4"
bind "C" "plf4"
alias a5 "play airbut1.way"
i have an intellimouse so these won't help you but...
mouse 3 = change weapon
mouse wheel up = select my best longrange weapon
mouse wheel down = select my best shortrange weapon
Really, any four keys in the same w-s a-d type position are as good as
any others, including the cursors. The real thing here is that it the
two sideways keys a-d, 4-6 or whatever should be Sidestep not turn,
allowing you to get out of the way fast. The reason I use WSAD is
because I play TF and it make more sense having the rest of the keyboard
to the left of movement for various TF commands (easily accesible with
right hand).
Second ... I think you need to consider a mouse+keyboard control
system. I don't want to reopen the stale debate regarding controls,
but I will simply say I think there are lots of advantages to the
mouse+keyboard approach. No way would I play with only keyboard ...
my sense is that people who do so are in the vast minority and are
primarily rocket fodder for those who don't.
Below are the two files that are read when autoexec.cfg executes. The
basic movements are pretty standard; mine are a personal holdover from
the Doom2 and Ifrag days (anybody remember Ifrag?). The goal is to
associate the most common movements (lateral movement) with the
strongest keys (index and middle). The bound weapons are the only
ones I prefer to use; it's nice to be able to switch quickly whenever
there's quad in play. I also like the quick grenade immensely. Same
principle applies here as with the movements - associate the most
common actions with the strongest fingers.
I guess I fail the Quake purity test because I don't rocket jump
naturally. Heh.
Hope this helps somebody.
D. Edwards / Vivisector
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My .rc file:
+mlook
+speed
crosshair 1
//Movement
bind s +back
bind d +moveleft
bind f +moveright
bind SPACE +jump
bind e +moveup
bind c +movedown
bind MOUSE2 +forward
//Weapons
bind MOUSE1 +attack
bind r "impulse 7"
bind v "impulse 8"
bind b "impulse 5"
//Quick Grenade
alias gl "impulse 6; +attack; wait; -attack"
bind g gl
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My rjump.cfg:
alias ld "cl_pitchspeed 9999;+lookdown"
alias unld "-lookdown;centerview;cl_pitchspeed 150"
alias rj "impulse 7;+jump;+attack;wait;-attack;-jump"
alias rjump "ld;rj;unld"
bind a rjump
Whhops whoah! I meant left hand - all extra keys bound around the w-s
a-d keys (gawd, imagine letting the mouse go!)
> I have always wandered why the excellent players out there always use
> the main keys on the keyboard (eg, S, D, X , Z etc) instead of the
> keypad keys. Anybody with answers?
Dunno about everyone else, but I played descent for ages before Quake. In
one of the readme's for Descent, it had some advanced key configs that the
people that made Descent used. One of them was the one I converted to.
A - forward
Z - backward
Lshift - strafe left
X - strafe right
+mlook
use mouse to look up/down, left/right, shoot and jump.
I now have alt, ctrl, w, s, q and c bound to various weapons. So when
Quake came to my computer, I was so used to using these keys for 3d
movement, I fixed my Quake keys.
Owen Butler
my keys...all in the autoexec....
mouse1 fire
mouse2 move forward
mouse3 (intellimouse wheel button) fire rocket then back 2 previous
weapon
a strafe left
d strafe right
s backwards
w jump
e macro for a rocket jump (takes of 50 health so its a max jump)
z swim down
x backwards jump
btw how do u assign a command to the intelliwheel, and how do u do the
best long range/best shortrange thingo?
do u just do for say selecting a projectile weapon
" impulse 4; impulse 5; impulse 7;" ? so that it switchs to the
best in reverse order of precedence or what in ythe autoexec?
i use mlook btw
> reading this thread i'm supprised to see how many people use the
> W-S, A-D or the like... I'm acutally a very good player and often keep up
> with the LPB's... here's my 2cent config
> < = strafe left
> I have always wandered why the excellent players out there always use
> the main keys on the keyboard (eg, S, D, X , Z etc) instead of the
> keypad keys. Anybody with answers?
> Lindsay Tan aka
> AssMonger
for me, my mouse is on the right hand side of the keyboard. i like my
hands spread out kinda naturally, so to use the keys (see my config in a
slightly earlier post) asdweqzx which is on the left, means my hands arn;t
all cramped together, which is more comfortable and more ergononmic (what
a revolting word) :)
there ya go :)
Jeremy Goldberg wrote:
> toku...@sl.net wrote in message <34657DF7...@sl.net>...
> >I am a Quake gamer. I have always considered myself to be okay, but then I
> >viewed a demo from PC Gamer Mag (Oct. 97) in which a player finished the
> >entire game in 19 minutes and 49 seconds! He used tactics I had never even
> >considered in the past, and his use of control was uncanny!
> >
> >It led me to question the configuration of my own control system: keyboard
> >only. Arrows for turning and walking, A to jump, ALT to sidestep, CTRL to
> >fire, PGUP/PGDN to move my view. Is there a better way?
> >
> >I realize I might have to spend money on a decent joystick, but right now
> >all I have is a 2-button mouse. Please help me!!!
>
Ulric Cajuste wrote:
>
> Where could i get a good map editor which I don't have to register?
>
> ul...@videotron.ca
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>Where could i get a good map editor which I don't have to register?
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Try BSP at http://bsphq.telefragged.com/ . It's a really good, free
editor. The windowing system is great, I use it more than Worldcraft.
-kaf
Try THRED
Julian.
BSP is one of the best editors around, supporting both Quake and it's
addons as well as HeXen II. The author has plans to include Quake II as
well. I use it, as well as most other map authors that I know. You can
also d/l the shareware version of WorldCraft, which is another very good
editor. BSP however..is free.
Go here to check them both out:
http://www.planetquake.com/worldcraft/
BSP and WorldCraft both have excellent help pages and tutorials.
KW aka Sir Rush
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Ulric Cajuste <ul...@videotron.ca> wrote in article
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Hmmm. try using ESDF instead.
more space to the left also. that gives u a faster set of
controles(not so much movement to the side.)
*G*
/Spider