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Eric Blade

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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In article <4gps74$3...@gti.gti.net>, Aaron Kipness <jun...@gti.net> wrote: >The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well". >Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :( A 486 doesn't run DOOM well, either. But it does run it playably. And my dx2/80 runs Quake well enough to manage a few frags vs a pair of P5/90's on 28800 serial connects.

Michael Copelin

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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In article <4gps74$3...@gti.gti.net>, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:
>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>
>
For the test only.

Jonathan Lay

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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On 25 Feb 1996 14:37:24 GMT, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:

>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

Actually, the game is just CURRENTLY not optimized for the 486. I
guess they plan on working on this a little, but regardless, it is
time for everybody to upgrade to Pentium. I plan on upgrading to
atleast a P133 with 16mb EDO, SB 32, USR 33.6, but I won't do this
until the Verite 3D accelerator gets released :) :)

Scorp


Eiliv Larsen

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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Bullshit!
My pentium is now getting a new HDD, and I`ve been playing
quaketest the whole day on my portable 486dx4/75
Torment


selpro

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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On 25 Feb 1996 14:37:24 GMT, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:

The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

ah.. ya right, ill go spend a couple of thou to play a freakin forty
dollar game!
get a life.... soon


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Tom Wheeley

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Feb 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/25/96
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In article <4gptku$j...@madison.tdsnet.com>
ebl...@ccm.tdsnet.com "Eric Blade" writes:

> In article <4gps74$3...@gti.gti.net>, Aaron Kipness <jun...@gti.net> wrote:
> >The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
> >Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
> >
> >
>

> A 486 doesn't run DOOM well, either. But it does run it playably.
> And my dx2/80 runs Quake well enough to manage a few frags vs a pair
> of P5/90's on 28800 serial connects.

A 486 runs DOOM just fine, thankyou very much. Did you press the TURBO
button ?

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Brian Nelson

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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On Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:42:45 GMT, sel...@tiac.net (selpro) wrote:

>On 25 Feb 1996 14:37:24 GMT, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:
>
>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>

>ah.. ya right, ill go spend a couple of thou to play a freakin forty
>dollar game!
>get a life.... soon
>

Get a new computer.... soon.

Emre

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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Aaron Kipness wrote:
>
> The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
> Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>
>

It's time you people understand this:

Minimum Recommended
Wolf3d 286 386
Doom 386 486
Quake 486 Pentium


I would be really surprised if
quake didn't NOT run well on a 486.

grape ape

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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I think it is funny how after a seeming eternity of everyone beating up on
people who even *thought* of criticizing quake, now the same people are
saying quake sucks. When you play the empty "deathmatch" levels alone, of
course they suck.

This morning when we got it running with 8 people at once... it was really
really cool.

The graphics of other players are really cool. Everything looks a lot better
when you're running around chasing people and getting shot at...

Network tends to lag a lot unless you use a dedicated server tho...

bill

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Robert Merritt

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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This spork scribble is by Emre <amo...@buttercup.cybernex.net>


But the question is, which 386/486/pentium?

286:12 16 25
386: 16 20 25 33 40
486: 25 33 66 100 120
Pen: 60 66 75 90

AND at the moment I doubt that a P90 is enough to run Quake

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Jeff Puckett

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:

>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

It WILL run, but it's really, really, really slow. You get the turtle
icon all the time. I'm not too worried. . .yet. Besides, my roommate
has a Pentium.


Jeff Puckett

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Rob Badenoch

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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Quake runs fine on my PC. I got a 486DX2 50MHZ.


t...@euclid.nrl.navy.mil

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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In article <313108...@buttercup.cybernex.net>, Emre <amo...@buttercup.cybernex.net> wrote:

>Aaron Kipness wrote:
>>
>> The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>> Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>>
>>
>
>It's time you people understand this:
>
> Minimum Recommended
>Wolf3d 286 386
>Doom 386 486
>Quake 486 Pentium

Actually I'm running my quake dedicated server on a 486/33 upgraded
with the Evergreen 586, which turns out to be a 486-DX3-100.
It seems to be ok for a dedicated server.

The dedicated server uses no graphics. One thing that may help is
the server has 64megs. The server is running on a local net using
IPX


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Lt EddyH

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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It sez "optimization for a 486 chip is yet to be doneso it will not run
well on a 486 YET"

Mystical Giant

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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cope...@awod.com (Michael Copelin) wrote:

>In article <4gps74$3...@gti.gti.net>, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:
>>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
>>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>>
>>

>For the test only.
sorry again, but I have a 496dx4/75 ODP, 12 megs ram, and Quake runs as well as expected, thus a li'l less than Duke 3d, but not bad

S. Patrick Gallaty

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Feb 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/26/96
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Robert Merritt wrote:
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>
> AND at the moment I doubt that a P90 is enough to run Quake

You do not know what you are talking about.
We played it this weekend on 486/66es and it was okay with
a separate quakeserver and the sound cranked down to 8000hz, 8bit,
and mono.

Tom Wheeley

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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In article <4gt3up$8...@gti.gti.net> jun...@gti.net "Aaron Kipness" writes:

> Emre (amo...@buttercup.cybernex.net) wrote:


> : Aaron Kipness wrote:
> : >
> : > The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
> : > Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

> : >
> : >
>
> : It's time you people understand this:


>
> : Minimum Recommended
> : Wolf3d 286 386
> : Doom 386 486
> : Quake 486 Pentium
>

> Asswipe, ID changed the minimum to a pentium system, ask John Romero
> himself. It is CLEARLY stated in the readme file that qtest run WILL NOT RUN
> WELL on a 486 based system.

No, but it will run. It is incredible what you can get used to. I ran DOOM
on a 386sx for ages, thinking it looked great. The Minimum system to get a
screen up on Quake is a 486 it seems. I don't know if anyone has tried a
386, but they'd need a co-pro and it'll be slower than powerpoint.

So his table is correct. I would say, however, that minimum to play the
TEST version _nicely_ is P75/P90 depending on how well set up it is. A well
setup 486 DX4/100 will play QUAKE nicely, as people have testified.

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Lunde

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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Aaron Kipness wrote:
>
> Rob Badenoch (ra...@lehigh.edu) wrote:
> : Quake runs fine on my PC. I got a 486DX2 50MHZ.
>
> Lets not forget how the turtle icon showed up on the screen while you
> played, shall we? And lets also not forget how you sized the screen down
> to 4" by 4" to play.

What makes the difference if the turtle icon showed up on the screen and
the screen was sized down a bit. Not all of use can afford new
computers, we play with what we have. It is called getting your money
out of a purchase. You should try it sometime, instead of buying a new
computer every 6 months.

Garner

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) writes:
>Rob Badenoch (ra...@lehigh.edu) wrote:
>: Quake runs fine on my PC. I got a 486DX2 50MHZ.

>Lets not forget how the turtle icon showed up on the screen while you
>played, shall we? And lets also not forget how you sized the screen down
>to 4" by 4" to play.

Can't say for a DX2-50, but my DX4-120 runs fine without a turtle in
320x200. The screen size is the default size. Once iD optimizes, I think
it will do nicely.

(Had loads of fun today playing 8 player deathmatch at work on P100s!)
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The Vampire Lestat

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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In <31310409...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> bm...@cornell.edu

(Brian Nelson) writes:
>
>On Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:42:45 GMT, sel...@tiac.net (selpro) wrote:
>
>>On 25 Feb 1996 14:37:24 GMT, jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:
>>
>>The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".

>>Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(
>>

>>ah.. ya right, ill go spend a couple of thou to play a freakin forty
>>dollar game!
>>get a life.... soon
>>
>Get a new computer.... soon.

No. No. No. Only the test version can be played on Pentiums. Even
then I wonder with all the people still having problems. But remember,
it is a TEST VERSION, not a DEMO, SHAREWARE, or REGISTERED version.
The shareware and registered versions should be optimum on a 486/75 at
least. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I won't bother with the
test version. HEXEN anyone????

Lestat


Martijn Dekker

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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nonsense. I played quake on my 486dx4/100, 12Mb. Of course in 320x200 mode
and the turtle is often there. But I guess it is about 10fps which is good
enough, really. No resizing necessary. If I do resize a bit the turtle
disappears immediately, so I guess at full screen it runs about 9 to 10 fps.

no need for a pentium, although it will be smoother of course. But I will not
spend 1000 dollar to play a game that is fast enough on my current machine
(and I tend to skip generations, never had a 386, went from my 286 straight
to the 486, i guess I will wait for a good PPC of 686/pentium pro).
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jun...@gti.net (Aaron Kipness) wrote:

:Rob Badenoch (ra...@lehigh.edu) wrote:
:: Quake runs fine on my PC. I got a 486DX2 50MHZ.
:
:Lets not forget how the turtle icon showed up on the screen while you
:played, shall we? And lets also not forget how you sized the screen down
:to 4" by 4" to play.

:


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Marc Roussel

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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James Lippingwell

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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Aaron Kipness (jun...@gti.net) wrote:
: The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
: Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

It also says "as it has not been optimized for that chipset at this
time". After playing the game I'm pretty sure it will be playable on 486s.
--
James

colin rowlands

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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In article <3132E5...@generation.net>, om...@generation.net says...

>
>Aaron Kipness wrote:
>
> The readme file by John Romero says, "A 486 will NOT run quake well".
> Sorry fellas, but ya gotta scrimp up the cash for a pentium :(

Actually he says a 486 will not run this demo well, probably the final version
will run ok on a 486 in low res.
After seeing it running well in high res though i'm off to buy a new cpu!


Ben Scott

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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On 25 Feb 1996, Eric Blade wrote:

> A 486 doesn't run DOOM well, either. But it does run it playably.
> And my dx2/80 runs Quake well enough to manage a few frags vs a pair
> of P5/90's on 28800 serial connects.

My 486/80 runs Doom at it's maximum framerate, with the screen at
full-size, detail high, full-sound, and lots of stuff happening.

In order to run Quake above 10 FPS, I need to shut off all sound, run
in lowest res, and shrink the screen to about four inches by three
inches.

In short: Quake needs a lot of horsepower to run it. This is no
surprise to me, nor do I blame id: Quake simply needs more power because
it does more then any other game out there.

--
Ben Scott
bsc...@hopper.unh.edu

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it in such a way as to make it enough." -- Larry Niven, "Cautionary Tales"


steve

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Feb 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/27/96
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Rob Badenoch <ra...@lehigh.edu> wrote:

>Quake runs fine on my PC. I got a 486DX2 50MHZ.
>

???I have dx4/100 and I constantly see the turtle. Playable but annoying.

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selpro

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Mar 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/1/96
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On Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:21:46 -0800, "S. Patrick Gallaty"
<ch...@sirius.com> wrote:

=Robert Merritt wrote:
=[...]
=>
=> AND at the moment I doubt that a P90 is enough to run Quake
=
=You do not know what you are talking about.
=We played it this weekend on 486/66es and it was okay with
=a separate quakeserver and the sound cranked down to 8000hz, 8bit,
=and mono.
oh, if it isnt mr." my perception is your reality" hey gallity you
jerk, instead of e-mailing me that flame you sent me, why dont you
post it? oh i know why, youre a nice guy.
im just wondering, is this rec.games.computer.quake.misc, or is this
rec.games.computer.quake.sycophant.no.divergent.opinions.tolerated. ?
why dont ya just buzz off ya creep?

SOLJAB0Y

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Mar 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/6/96
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No math coprocessor? maybe?

Steve Eggleston

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Mar 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/8/96
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In article <4hl9gk$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, fde...@aol.com says...
>
>yeah, ok, a 486 will run quake SLOWLY, right? Then why won't it run on
>mine? I don't even get to type in "YES", it just quits right out. It's a
>486/33 with 8mb RAM. . . Ok, ok, All I want to do is SEE it, I don't care
>how slow it runs. . . but it won't run! Does anyone know why?

SX or DX? Win95 or no Win95? Call me cheap and poor, but I managed to get
it running on my first-flight DX/33 (i.e. no VESA bus) with a mere 8 MB RAM
(30-pin SIMMs) in DOS X.X (both 6.2 and 7.whatever MS would have called it
without Win95). It might have been slow as molasses in early Feb. 96 in
Wisconsin (frame rates in the same vicinity as the high temps, or roughly as
fast as the start of D2's episode 15 for those of you on either side of middle
America <G>), with my trusty TrackMan worthless as any sort of equalizer, but
it kicks ass.
Seriously, if you do have a DX; (1) get out of Windows entirely (DOS prompt
windows are insufficient in either 3.X-won't run at all or 95-need 16 MB), (2)
find out what TSRs you don't need to run Quake (e.g. MSCDEX, anti-virus
programs, and the like) and don't load them when you reboot. If you don't, at
the VERY LEAST, get an OverDrive chip with a co-processor in it. If you're
unfortunate enough to have both an SX and an EISA/ISA bus, start saving for a
decent upgrade.

Steve (Can I get a P-133 before the full
version of Quake comes out? I hope so.)


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