Kill Stealing
Richard Baker
RANT ON
Ok i'm in Greater Faydark, near CrushBone Tunnel, i'm a ninth level bard,
and there are two Orc Cents, both con blue. So I sneak around to the far
side starting singing Kelins Lugubrious Lament, (for those that don't know
this allows me to 'lull' things so that I can take on one at a time). When,
BANG, in wades a fighter who upon seeing me informs me that 'I have these 2
covered', when I pull my original target, I get a sarcastic message along
the lines of, 'obviously you didn't hear me'.
After killing both Orcs, fighter struts off whilst I try to explain what I
had been doing. Now I am not mad about him tackling orcs, he obviously
hadn't seen me, it was his assumption that he could take both and his
subsequent lack of acknowledgement once I had explained that really p%$^&d
me off.
RANT OFF
Then when I calmed down a bit a started to think maybe I was wrong, but then
again, maybe I wasn't.
So, any opinions, was I right to get narked or not.
Kasalic the SLightly Off Key Bard.
Now much calmer.
Patrick Grinsell
happens to you. My main character is a bard and as far as dealing damage
quickly they are near the bottom of the list. This means anybody who is set
to steal your kill can usually do so easily. I have recently switched over
to a wizard and have yet to lose a kill to a KSer.
As far as this guy being rude...I've found it gets worse the higher level
you get. It seems that after 20th level or so everybody considers
themselves an expert and rudeness becomes second nature. Many of the higher
levels are powerleveling dickweeds that will KS at first opportunity. The
structure of the planes makes this even worse where you have entire elitest
guilds dictating who gets what.
Pat
Richard Baker <kal.k...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mr Foo Bar
to use our brains the non-thinking "ugh bash it" crowd sometimes beat us to
the pull.
On the upside, you get to laugh when they pull off more than they can chew
because in their rush to beat you they didn't spot the Lego' lurking behind
that tree. (Btw plenty of cents inside CB, and you get an xp bonus when
killing exactly the same mobs but inside a dungeon.)
Mr Foo Bar
Patrick Grinsell <pgr...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> The sad and unforntate fact is this probably won't be the last time this
> happens to you. My main character is a bard and as far as dealing damage
> quickly they are near the bottom of the list. This means anybody who is
set
> to steal your kill can usually do so easily. I have recently switched
over
> to a wizard and have yet to lose a kill to a KSer.
>
LOL, another myth. The best kill stealers in the game are enchanters. (Only
deliberately did it once, solo, I stole a con-red mob from a group of six
whom ALL conned-red to me. Pretty cool huh. They stopped stealing from my
group's pulls after that demonstaration). Fortunately it takes some
intelligence to play an enchanter so you don't get too many arseholes
playing them (well except me of course hehe).
> As far as this guy being rude...I've found it gets worse the higher level
> you get. It seems that after 20th level or so everybody considers
> themselves an expert and rudeness becomes second nature.
*shrug* you either hunt in the wrong areas (some, like HHP, are by common
agreement free for all, therefore by definition you can't kill steal). The
best way to avoid kill stealing is be in a group (wow what a concept, an
on-line game you play with other people.) It was much more annoying before
they changed how groups work wrt kill stealing.
> Many of the higher
> levels are powerleveling dickweeds that will KS at first opportunity.
I know *no-one* at high level who deliberately kill steals. This is because
a) there's no point ks-ing off low-levels newbies like you and b) if you try
to kill steal off your peers you'll have trouble getting a group and you
need to group at higher level.
> The
> structure of the planes makes this even worse where you have entire
elitest
> guilds dictating who gets what.
Sounds like you've been reading too much propaganda.
>
> Pat
Billy Shields
: Patrick Grinsell <pgr...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
: news:FXiZ4.52$tP1....@news.pacbell.net...
:> The sad and unforntate fact is this probably won't be the last time this
:> happens to you. My main character is a bard and as far as dealing damage
:> quickly they are near the bottom of the list. This means anybody who is
: set
:> to steal your kill can usually do so easily. I have recently switched
: over
:> to a wizard and have yet to lose a kill to a KSer.
:>
: LOL, another myth. The best kill stealers in the game are enchanters. (Only
: deliberately did it once, solo, I stole a con-red mob from a group of six
: whom ALL conned-red to me. Pretty cool huh. They stopped stealing from my
: group's pulls after that demonstaration). Fortunately it takes some
: intelligence to play an enchanter so you don't get too many arseholes
: playing them (well except me of course hehe).
All true.
:> As far as this guy being rude...I've found it gets worse the higher level
:> you get. It seems that after 20th level or so everybody considers
:> themselves an expert and rudeness becomes second nature.
: *shrug* you either hunt in the wrong areas (some, like HHP, are by common
: agreement free for all, therefore by definition you can't kill steal). The
: best way to avoid kill stealing is be in a group (wow what a concept, an
On my server (Druzil Ro) theres rarely more than one group doing the
orcs or the gnolls in HHP. Its more of a problem in the Oasis though.
: on-line game you play with other people.) It was much more annoying before
: they changed how groups work wrt kill stealing.
More annoying? Thats an understament. It was hell. Last may you'd
find these whore wizards sitting on the table in the CB throne room
who would constantly med, stand up and KS when they had the mana and
then go back to medding.
That change had a huge psychological impact too. Many people seemed
to lose the desire to even try and KS (at least in my experience).
:> Many of the higher
:> levels are powerleveling dickweeds that will KS at first opportunity.
: I know *no-one* at high level who deliberately kill steals. This is because
I know a lot of high levels who KSed from 1 to 40+ and then suddenly
had a change of heart and conveniently find the error in their ways
when there were suddenly consequences to doing so (since reputation
starts counting for something meaningful). I and many others I know
remember who they are though and I don't cut them any slack. Ever.
"Oh hello Ms KS-gynok-3-times-from-me cleric, you want a teleport/sow
do you? I don't think so."
Generally I wouldn't say anything unless they pestered me. I'd just
ignore them. They're not worth my time.
It seems that a lot of people will go to split servers to try and
escape their bad reputation too.
: a) there's no point ks-ing off low-levels newbies like you and b) if you try
: to kill steal off your peers you'll have trouble getting a group and you
: need to group at higher level.
Don't KS because you wouldn't like someone doing it to you. Its
pretty much that simple. I hate jerks who turn into complete
assholes when they suddenly find anonymity on the net. Its
amazing how that lack of consequences can vastly change people.
Mr Foo Bar
Billy Shields <ran...@opera.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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*Nod* I agree. And besides it ain't generally fun to KS, except from that
bastards who thought they could get away with constantly kill stealing from
your group just cos we all conned low blue/green to them. Weird how suddenly
they change their attitude to kill stealing.
Kal Kasalic
Mr Foo Bar <f...@bar.com> wrote in message
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> Uhm, sounds like an honest mistake. Unfortunately for those of us who like
> to use our brains the non-thinking "ugh bash it" crowd sometimes beat us
to
> the pull.
>
> On the upside, you get to laugh when they pull off more than they can chew
> because in their rush to beat you they didn't spot the Lego' lurking
behind
> that tree. (Btw plenty of cents inside CB, and you get an xp bonus when
> killing exactly the same mobs but inside a dungeon.)
>
>
didn't think it fair to join a group only to leave half an hour later, you
are right CB is better, lots of Orcs, too many some times though LOL.
Kasalic the Slightly Off Key but improving slowly Bard